Hi, My name is soundguy. Long time lurker, first time poster/new member. Hopefully I have found a place to fit in. I am too far right for those on the left. I am too far left for those on the right, and my thinking ends up being too unconventional for the middle. I am looking forward to being part of this community and a contributor.

Reading this thread inspired me to add a different perspective that I hadn't seen represented. Having lurked here long enough, I also realize that that all things are relative and one can always argue as to what came first, the need or the solution that needed sold.

I think one argument that is fomenting here in the U.S. is how to replace the revenue lost as more people switch to hybrids and plug in electrics. As more of those types of vehicles hit the roads (as they will soon) there will be a loss of money collected through the gasoline tax.

But to think that a corporation could be given dominion over that which was acquired through imminent domain reeks to high heaven.

I would second that our councils run road maintenance and repair and at the moment they resemble the main roads in Kandahar. I live in Edinburgh and just doing phase one of the tram install has caused a year and half of delays, laying this supposed fibre optic cable would take the councils about a hundred years

Originally posted by endisnighe
Why doesn't this have a thousand flags?

Selling roads paid by US.

Charging us for roads WE built.

Will they discontinue the gas taxes? I THINK NOT!

This government needs to be stopped and stopped NOW!

Don't you mean a dumb, corrupted, Socialism for the rich government? A good government is great but not this thing we call government.

Government by the consent of the people...if you don't consent then how could they operate?

Just think about it for awhile.

[edit on 2/10/2010 by dalan.]

Originally posted by Common Good
From Article---“Road charging,” as it is called in England, is widespread, he told AFP, as fiber optic cable has been laid along most English roads to help track vehicle travel by the mile so drivers can be charged.

here in America, we call that invasion of privacy.

When I was reading that, all it said to me was "we want to track your every move, every turn, every mile.we must know where you are at at all times so we can control you and take all your money."


Edit-Or is it just me?


[edit on 10-2-2010 by Common Good]

Your are spot on, this is a disgrace and again they are trying to find a way to hold onto power over us as it is slipping, what better way to monitor our every move, no wonder they are trying to push the new government schemes to buy cheaper cars with TRACKING EQUIPMENT BUILT IN!

Widespread in England? I live in England and there is 1 toll road in the whole country which is optional you can go round if you want and not pay! (its charged on entry and that is all)

THE TIME IS NEARING TO GET RID OF THESE SCUM!

[edit on 10-2-2010 by DigitalKid]

I think this post proves beyond any reasonable doubt that U.S. Citizens really do not own anything within the United States.

If you have the right to travel then why would you have to pay a toll for it? If you have the right to travel then why do you have to ask the State for permission to do so? Isn't a driver's license a permit? If a driver's license is a permit, why are you asking for permission to exercise a right?

Is it because U.S. Citizens have no "rights" only privileges?

The Fourteenth Amendment "Civil Rights"

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property , without the due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

From Black's Law Dictionary third Pocket Edition:

jurisdiction, n.1. A government's general power to exercise authority over all persons and things within its territory.

privilege. 1. A special legal right, exemption, or immunity GRANTED to a person or class of persons.

That is very odd, on one hand the Declaration of Independence States that our rights were given to us by our Creator...the highest authority. Somehow we seem to have fallen under the jurisdiction of the Federal Government who grants us those "privileges" that our Creator gave us.

Odd, and I suppose that, what the Federal Government granteth they can taketh away...

It appears that all of the well behaved U.S. Citizens here are doing well playing their game. How many of you check the box?

[edit on 2/10/2010 by dalan.]

Originally posted by dalan.
Government by the consent of the people...if you don't consent then how could they operate?

Just think about it for awhile.

[edit on 2/10/2010 by dalan.]

By sneaky tacticts and lies, like they do all the time...
Or am I getting u entirely wrong here? Soz mate

Originally posted by digalog

Originally posted by dalan.
Government by the consent of the people...if you don't consent then how could they operate?

Just think about it for awhile.

[edit on 2/10/2010 by dalan.]

By sneaky tacticts and lies, like they do all the time...
Or am I getting u entirely wrong here? Soz mate

I think you got the gist of my post exactly.

Second line?

I volunteer to do the dragging and executing...
Louie: Hey! It's Krusty, all right. Should I shoot him gangland-style or execution-style?
Fat Tony: Listen to your heart.

If only the wealthy 5% of people couldnt convince the poorer 95% that cash is a good exchange for bodyguarding them...

Originally posted by star in a jar
So when the hell will the Rothschilds be dragged out of their mansions and summarily executed by a pissed-off crowd?

I've often thought WHY doesnt someone or a group of someone's with power and access do military strikes on that small percentage as well. Seems like a small tumor making an entire world organism very sick, and the tumor can easily be REMOVED!

i read taht as "troll" roads. that's a totally different spin on things.

rothschilds are bad.