1 in 100 Americans in prison?, page 1
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reply posted on 9-2-2010 @ 09:14 AM by searching4truth
Well, according to this1 in 32 Americans is under some sort of correctional supervision (jail, parole, or probation) and 1 in 142 are actually in jail.

Yes, the US has a 3 strike rule upon your third offence you get a life sentence, and yes I agree that it is ludicrous.



reply posted on 9-2-2010 @ 09:22 AM by octotom
reply to post by neo5842



Oh, something about the "three strikes" rule is that it's not a blanket thing for the whole nation. So, to say that "America" does this, is kinda misleading. Each state uses the policy differently; some nay not use it at all. For example, Florida, where I'm from, only uses a three strikes rule on crimes where a gun is pulled, not for crimes that are deemed "serious" enough.


reply posted on 9-2-2010 @ 09:23 AM by searching4truth
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Yes, I believe you are correct, it seems 24 states have enacted this law, California has been brought to the Supreme Court twice on this issue, and to date it has been upheld.


reply posted on 9-2-2010 @ 11:47 AM by 1SawSomeThings
reply to post by calcoastseeker



Have you ever been inside a prison? I have as a volunteer, and a relative worked there for years. It is extremely sad. Some belong there, many do not.



reply posted on 9-2-2010 @ 12:29 PM by zeddissad
reply to post by calcoastseeker




Please read this article and do some own research based on it. One can think that US prison industry is some kind of social benefit for inmates. Well it can be for minority (earlier hobos in Europe did minor crimes to get into prison for winter months) but sure not for majority of sentenced. Society as whole is losing - in majority of cases is better "bad" daddy then NO daddy for children (this is only ONE example). Please do your homework on psychological view on personality development of children.
So who is actually gaining from US prison population? Quote from above mentioned link:

Who is investing? At least 37 states have legalized the contracting of prison labor by private corporations that mount their operations inside state prisons. The list of such companies contains the cream of U.S. corporate society: IBM, Boeing, Motorola, Microsoft, AT&T, Wireless, Texas Instrument, Dell, Compaq, Honeywell, Hewlett-Packard, Nortel, Lucent Technologies, 3Com, Intel, Northern Telecom, TWA, Nordstrom's, Revlon, Macy's, Pierre Cardin, Target Stores, and many more. All of these businesses are excited about the economic boom generation by prison labor. Just between 1980 and 1994, profits went up from $392 million to $1.31 billion. Inmates in state penitentiaries generally receive the minimum wage for their work, but not all; in Colorado, they get about $2 per hour, well under the minimum. And in privately-run prisons, they receive as little as 17 cents per hour for a maximum of six hours a day, the equivalent of $20 per month. The highest-paying private prison is CCA in Tennessee, where prisoners receive 50 cents per hour for what they call "highly skilled positions." At those rates, it is no surprise that inmates find the pay in federal prisons to be very generous. There, they can earn $1.25 an hour and work eight hours a day, and sometimes overtime. They can send home $200-$300 per month.

God bless corporate America.

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reply posted on 9-2-2010 @ 02:50 PM by Koyaanisqatsi
reply to post by zeddissad



I read the article you linked to. I am truly appalled. However it confirms my views about the ulterior motive of American prisons.

I am a Norwegian myself, and I must say there are differences...
Here is an article about the Norwegian prison system.

We are literally worlds apart...

"The biggest mistake that our societies have made is to believe that you must punish hard to change criminals," explained Oeyvind Alnaes, Bastoey's then-prison governor. "This is wrong. The big closed prisons are criminal schools. If you treat people badly, they will behave badly. Anyone can be a citizen if we treat them well, respect them, and give them challenges and demands."


BTW: It's an interesting read.

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reply posted on 9-2-2010 @ 04:01 PM by 1SawSomeThings
reply to post by smyleegrl



I will pose the same question I asked the other person:

Have you ever been inside a prison? I have as a volunteer, and a relative worked there for years. It is extremely sad. Some belong there, many do not.


If you think "less hospitable" will make crime go down, you must not have ever seen the inside of a prison. Significant numbers of non-violent offenders (many mentally ill) become violent and more expert criminals with gang affiliations, connections and know-how when are in prison. They become "big-time".
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