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reply posted on 9-2-2010 @ 07:20 AM by pazcat
Originally posted by deltaalphanovember
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To me, law is never as interesting as it's made out to be (by Hollywood). However I do find it interesting that there is such a branch of law called Space Law ....


Well i guess its not surprising that it would need a specialised branch of law with specialised training considering all the different agencies involved. It will probably be a rapidly expanding industry aswell. I guess it would be good to get in on the ground floor.


reply posted on 9-2-2010 @ 07:32 AM by deltaalphanovember
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An interesting philosophical discussion indeed, but unless you can demonstrate differently - not a discussion pertinent to this thread.


reply posted on 9-2-2010 @ 07:34 AM by deltaalphanovember
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Yes indeed ... imagine the first space murder/rape/assault case (take your pick). Imagine being the lawyers who are involved in such cases. It seems a perfect spring board to fame, fortune and book deals.



reply posted on 9-2-2010 @ 07:46 AM by OmegaLogos
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Explanation: No probs!

Here are those links you require, that I should of provided early but saved exactly for this thread bump! Sneaky huh!

Satellite Laser Ranging in China. [ucsusa.org]

China's Anti-Satellite Capabilities [heritage.org]

From above source...
The space threat posed by China is multifaceted. The "painting" in September of a U.S. satellite by a ground-based laser shows that the Chinese program includes a broad range of capabilities, from kinetic kill to directed energy.


China Attacks US Satellites [newsmax.com]

China Fired High-Powered Lasers at US Satellites [missilethreat.com]

Personal Disclosure: Although the specs for the ABL are somewhat classified as to range ect. it is comfortably over a couple of hundred Kms which is more than enough to reach low earth orbit!

Boeing YAL-1 [4pg pdf html view]

From source ....
An air-mobile system capable of generating a directed-energy beam powerful enough to destroy ballistic missiles at distances of hundreds of kilometers — the exact range of the Airborne Laser is classified — has the potential to revolutionize not just missile defense but warfare itself.
— Space News Editorial, May 21, 2007


And a google search informed me that its out to 560km's but I can't link that info!

The best I can do to corroborate that its at least a couple of hundred Kms is this...

Airborne Laser [ieee.org]

From source....
Summary: The Airborne Laser (ABL), a high-flying megawatt laser that pinpoints a ballistic missile lifting off hundreds of kilometers away, is an alternative to terminal defenses.



reply posted on 9-2-2010 @ 09:02 AM by QuantEntangLucasian
reply to post by deadforce



A magnet in the Northern hemisphere and a magnet in the Southern hemisphere...
while also noting superfluidity of the northern hemisphere replayed via pine gap computer array in the southern hemisphere and reconfigured for the appropriate northern hemisphere location - clockwise and anti-clockwise in 13 dimensions.

If the aliens understand that then they are cleared to land.


reply posted on 9-2-2010 @ 09:26 AM by deltaalphanovember
reply to post by OmegaLogos



Thanks for the links ... quite interesting - I had no idea the West is having a Space Cold War with China.

I wonder how far they have progressed in the last 4 years.


reply posted on 9-2-2010 @ 04:37 PM by Scramjet76
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I'm not sure what you mean by UFOs? But it seems from your post you indicate they are the "alien masters." If there are alien masters I highly doubt they have any problems dealing with tiny space debris because they would have faced (and dealt) with this problem already a million times over.

There is no space "cold war." China was simply conducting a military test under the transparent cloak of knocking down an old satellite. The test was successful for knocking down a satellite in low orbit of around 500 miles. However knocking out US Military satellites (Comm & Gps sats) require a different technology as they orbit the planet much farther away. China has also showed the ability to use powerful ground lasers to temporarily blind US imagining satellites flying over sensitive areas.

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All that hoopla about the Chinese kinetic missile was overblown IMO. The US can't expect the rest of the world to stand still. They have great technologies too and are trying to perfect them in the same way we are. China knocked out one of their aging weather satellites which is a far cry from the 1962 nuke detonated in orbit by the US.

The real problem isn't General Tso, but one of general space debris. The US space and military programs have been using a variation of the Whipple Shield for decades to protect satellites from small "hyper velocity" micro space debris. Larger debris are tracked by radar and catalogued. I believe what's at stake here is the debris too small to be tracked by radar but large enough to pose a risk to existing shielding methods.

Some have suggested lasers while others have proposed electromagnetic shields. The problem with those ideas are the same problems we have with space in general. If the design calls for something to be lifted into space this thing should be light weight, as we all know the high cost of escaping earth's gravity.

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