Pusher : Cerulean Blue, Pushing the Lie, and Psychological Operations

Cool thread as always,Leo! S&F for you. They have been messing with various mind control techniques for years now look at Srihan and Chapman.I think subliminal programing is also being used as we speak.

reply to post by jackflap

10 And finally, photo­graphers, fashion designers and direct­ors sometimes succ­umb to laziness and include more traditional occult symbols such as pentagrams, pyramids (with and without the Eye of Horus), horned animal skulls, and other familiar standards.

Not lazy anymore, Just in you face. Maybe you guy's saw this on The New Years Eve NYC broadcast. They cut off Old Lang Syne and broadcast this to the world on all networks.



MTV article

[edit on 9-2-2010 by timewalker]

Originally posted by SpartanKingLeonidas
reply to post by Aggie Man

 

Well, now my curiosity is piqued about the movie, Aggie Man.

I do not usually watch movies like that unless I am with a girlfriend, or female friend.

But what you have pointed out is quite simply one of many underlying tones I see set within movies, all the time, whether it is intentional, or not, the context is unmistakable.

I would not put it past Hollywood to put subliminal messages in movies.

That is one of their specialties of course, that and making big budget propaganda.

It's a fairly good movie...it's a comical look at the underside of the fashion industry. I only saw it because my wife had me watch it, but I admit that I have seen it a few times...always with her though

Anyhow, on Wiki, this is the description of the book (not the movie):

The book provides a semi-fictional but highly critical view of the Manhattan elite's empty obsession with materialism and fashion.

reply to post by mike dangerously

Here is one of my post on an old Avatar thread. Subliminal messaging within Avatar? To many suicides over a movie.................Keep in mind, a UFO was what brought me to ATS in the first place. Quite a fancy of mine.

Originally posted by timewalker
reply to post by concernedcitizan

 

You might be on to something here. I have not seen Avatar myself.
I don't know if you have ever heard of The Wingmakers. I will not go into the complete story, you guys will have to research it for yourself.

Wingmakers

But there has been some suspicion that it is an experiment in subliminal messaging through mythology, music, art, and philosophy.

I have read much of it and it was a pretty profound thing. In a good way for me. Not so much for others. I have heard that some got very depressed and suicidal after exposure.

Here is a snip from the CAUS (Citizens Against UFO Secrecy) website.

CAUS has received information that the WingMakers website might be some type of experiment in subliminal or similar programming.

CAUS is interested in hearing from anyone who has experienced any unusual occurrences, whether OBEs, paranormal, dreams, visions or altered states of any kind after viewing and/or listening to either all or a portion of the website.

CAUS believes that the homepage of 'WingMakers' should contain a warning...'Enter At Your Own Risk.'

CAUS

Oddly enough Kerry of Project Camelot became very interested in the Wingmakers early before PC was formed and retained the sole rights to make a movie about it.

Who was one person that the plot was presented to? No other than James Cameron.<

After months of talking to agents at agencies such as William Morris, CAA and Endeavor, I managed to place this project in front of Steven Spielberg, James Cameron, Ridley Scott, and Alejandro González Iñárritu by way of their agents and development executives: in the case of Spielberg, specifically Kathleen Kennedy.

Project Camelot

Not the same story obviously, but maybe the idea got through.

I have respect for PC and think the Wingmakers philosophy is not a bad thing even if it's not the real deal. Maybe the same with Avatar?

Perhaps the experiment has come to fruition?

Edit to add: The first night after reading the Ancient Arrow book, I did wake from a deep sleep very abruptly after making a realization in a dream about part of the book. 10cm

Your right SKL, I do love this thread. Pusher

I don't know if you already saw this movie...

Jacob's Ladder

(1990 psychological thriller / horror film directed by Adrian Lyne)

It star Tim Robbins

"Before the film credits, an on-screen title card states that the U.S. Army allegedly experimented with a hallucinogenic drug called BZ, a claim denied by the Pentagon."

en.wikipedia.org...'s_Ladder_(film)

Time for some current dark irony humor from our friends who control the MSM.

Coca-Cola Posts Strong Profit on Emerging-Market Sales

Coca-Cola said net income attributable to shareholders rose to $1.54 billion, or 66 cents a share, from $995 million, or 43 cents a share, a year earlier. Analysts’ average forecast was 66 cents a share, according to Thomson Reuters. Net operating revenue rose 5 percent, to $7.51 billion, topping analysts’ average forecast of $7.22 billion. Sales by volume — an important measure for investors — rose 5 percent, outpacing gains of 2 percent in the third quarter, 4 percent in the second quarter and 2 percent in the first quarter. Several analysts were expecting volume to grow about 2 percent. Fourth-quarter sales volume rose 11 percent in the Pacific region, driven by a 29 percent increase in China, where Coke said it would continue to focus on generating double-digit annual growth rates. Sales volume rose 7 percent in Latin America, 1 percent in Europe and 5 percent in the company’s Eurasia and Africa division.

www.nytimes.com...

All good stuff for Coca Cola and soda sales in general wouldn't you agree?

Study: Soda Linked to Pancreatic Cancer

(CBS) Mothers have warned for decades that drinking too much soda might cause cavities, but those sugar-laden beverages may expose people to a much greater risk - cancer. A recently released study from the University of Minnesota finds that people who drink as few as two soft drinks a week face almost double the risk of pancreatic cancer, one of the deadliest forms of the disease, according to a report by CBS station WCCO-TV. "Their risk of getting pancreatic cancer over the time period of the study was almost two times higher than their counterparts who were consuming little or no sugar-sweetened beverages in the study," said Dr. Mark Pereira.

www.cbsnews.com...

The kicker is that they both came out on the ninth. Both articles. So they know from the numbers that everyone has been enjoying soda. So they threw the riotous article about how it is bad for you and will cause cancer. You gotta love it!

I don't know or can I prove that this was the intention, but you know what we're dealing with.

[edit on 9-2-2010 by jackflap]

How far have they come?

Far enough to break it wide open, by remote control, with no need of hard 'implants'.

Being aware of this leaves 2 possible paths. Shut up and obey. Or appeal to God. If you are a God denier, move on. You can play games with them without the benefit of God's grace. Sooner or later they will grow a web just for you, and you'll hardly feel a prick.

Short circuiting the mind feels just like it sounds. You can feel yourself die for an instant. Then you have to turn over so they can start roasting the other side of your brain. You can move to another locale and try to sleep as well, and let them relocate you with the scanning equipment, which gives you a little time for rest, before the shocks return. I have witnessed many of their direct attempts at physical harm. While taking care of a huge empty steel plant, I witnessed many high powered assaults immediately upon entering the cold dark empty structure. They can make breathing seem difficult, a new sensation for me. They can cause collapse. If someone is with you, they may suddenly feel feint, or animals might try to approach you, or just hang out at the edge of the zone, perhaps curious about the energy flowing down from the satellite(s) being used for the flow. I believe they derive a sort of fringe benefit by remaining just at the edge of the rain. One time, when entering the plant, I saw a HUGE white owl perched on an industrial lamp affixed to the bldg. The wings were about 8 feet across as it flew to the east. Other times I have awoken from sleeping outdoors or in my car to find deer or raccoons climbing about the outside. I believe I am on permanent with them. Maybe the jujus had something to do with it, formed a sort of antennae in me that enables tracking. How would I know. (jujus are small laboratory syringes which were placed in all my gloves, and my tobacco stash, during a period of about 5-6 years, which effortlessly pierced my fingers a thousand times). Jujus are amber tinted cylindrical darts, approx .0001" in diameter and perhaps .075" long when in one piece. Each assault requires about two months to extract using surgical tweezers, sometimes a blade. Out come miniscule broken shards of hollow glass tubing affixed to near invisible strands of 'silk' up to 8 inches in length. You can see them because the blood attaches to the strands. tptb deemed this as 'morgellons', but of course I know better, as do thousands of others who can see the strands but don't have the skills to dig out the actual glass pieces, or who just don't know about them.

They don't just kill anyone who sees the political writing on the wall. They like to conduct experiments. They like snacks. As a reward for their research, they will toss a few favors at you...things that will make your balls spin, from time to time, while you're fully conscious even. Fake dreams of fulfillment can be conjured etc.... You will have trouble knowing which visions are fake and which are of God.

If you are misbehaving, then you will find yourself in an arena of humiliation. The afterglow will last a few hours, and the dream they give, in this case, is meant to be remembered. Sometimes they'll show you deep secrets, and then erase them, just to see how well the eraser works.

It works pretty well...recalling the erased parts is near impossible. The bizarre symbolism that springs up during such a dream is quite remarkable. But you won't remember, for instance, how the flowing energy that seems like it's underground and embodies all your relations, works. Bright vivid colors, strands of flowing energy, a bit like that scene in Space Odyssey. Many times upon wakening I see characters from ancient languages, sometimes Egyptian, sometimes Chinese. Sometimes there's a spirograph pattern, other times a matrix of sorts. If you are lucky you'll see a real spindle orientation component! No worries. I am certain Sarah Palin will make banning electronic harassment the very first thing on her agenda

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Advances inTelsa Technology

www.youtube.com...

This is a good video to watch for those of you who want to hear different opinions from different scientists concerning HAARP. I found it very interesting and shocking at the same time.

What I find so troubling is this whole project is run by our military, and the use is unlimited. Our military is doing dangerous tests that can be lethal to our planet.

I should have known, anything our military puts their hands on would be used in a negative and destructive way, against humanity.

In my earlier post on here I wanted to state that I do feel ATS and many other discussion forums have been infiltrated by CIA, FBI, Special Military Ops, corporations disinformation programs, government experiential mind control programs, these are only a few, all running their own programs to suit their agendas, (and why not) remember folks we are in an information war.

Some disinformationists on ATS that I have run ins with, are only trying to occupy my time keeping me at war with them, distracting the thread topic. The goal of some, is to stop the discussion of credible information. The closer to the truth I am on a topic, the harder they fight.

Just got an earthquake, I'd guess 3.0, Chicago. 4:00 CST

(edit) Dekalb 4.3 3:59:34 CST

Sorry, but I think it's related to what's at hand. Save us Sara Palin!!! Save us!!!

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reply to post by timewalker


I can see how bloggers from a Government agency coming onto a forum is "pushing the lie".

It's an operation, because it directly opposes people, and their views, and Freedom of Speech.

It is directly and indirectly impeding American's their First Amendment Rights.

This is where Government losses because if they did not attack, and they stonewalled, as per usual, they would not give "conspiracy theorist's" a leg to stand on.

Usually, the Government takes the stance of not reacting, and it used to be an effective tactic.

I knew you would like this thread, although the "pushing" is questionable.

Originally posted by mike dangerously
Cool thread as always,Leo! S&F for you.

They have been messing with various mind control techniques for years now look at Srihan and Chapman.I think subliminal programing is also being used as we speak.

Thanks mike dangerously.

I agree Chapman was MK-Ultra and I can see how Sirhan might possibly have been.

However, the fact that he is known by two names, Sirhan Sirhan, instead of the three name formula, like Lee Harvey Oswald, makes me question it.

I am not stating I disagree with you but there is something off about him.

It could be that those people who assassinated Bobby felt they needed a different tact, due to killing Jack, so they chose a different angle to take down another Government official.

Who knows.

reply to post by timewalker


Well, are you stating Jay-Z is pro-Government, or doing it on behalf of the Government?

Because musicians using imagery is not necessarily propaganda, it could be considered sheer stupidity.

What I am referring to is of course that Jay-Z chose the imagery merely as an image, thereby doing the bidding of Government, through subconscious programming himself.

If the propaganda works on Jay-Z, it is nothing more than repition, without intent.

I can see where you're coming from but I am interested to hear your reply and elaboration.

reply to post by captaintyinknots


I have read on COINTELPRO.

Quote from : Wikipedia : COINTELPRO

COINTELPRO (an acronym for Counter Intelligence Program) was a series of covert, and often illegal, projects conducted by the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) aimed at investigating and disrupting dissident political organizations within the United States.

The FBI used covert operations from its inception, however formal COINTELPRO operations took place between 1956 and 1971.

The FBI's stated motivation at the time was "protecting national security, preventing violence, and maintaining the existing social and political order."

According to FBI records, 85% of COINTELPRO resources were expended on infiltrating, disrupting, marginalizing, and/or subverting groups suspected of being subversive, such as communist and socialist organizations; the women's rights movement; militant black nationalist groups, and the non-violent civil rights movement, including individuals such as Martin Luther King, Jr. and others associated with the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, the Congress of Racial Equality, the American Indian Movement, and other civil rights groups; a broad range of organizations labeled "New Left", including Students for a Democratic Society, the National Lawyers Guild, the Weathermen, almost all groups protesting the Vietnam War, and even individual student demonstrators with no group affiliation; and nationalist groups such as those "seeking independence for Puerto Rico."

The other 15% of COINTELPRO resources were expended to marginalize and subvert "white hate groups," including the Ku Klux Klan and National States' Rights Party.

The directives governing COINTELPRO were issued by FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, who ordered FBI agents to "expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, or otherwise neutralize" the activities of these movements and their leaders.

I saw immediately how the M.I.A.C. Report was COINTELPRO, and I believe so did the Militia's it was aimed at, which is why it did not succeed.

It was just a re-packaged program, sold under a different Law Enforcement agency.

The book below was very interesting.

The COINTELPRO Papers: Documents from the FBI's Secret Wars Against Dissent in the United States

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/cb91c2a4e86b.jpg[/atsimg]

Amazon Review :

Readers anxious about the future of civil liberties under George W. Bush can trace the lineage of political repression meted out by the FBI in the last half century.

The original FBI memos reproduced here expose the Bureau's secret, systematic, and sometimes savage sabotage of progressive political activity.

The authors examine the treatment of the left from the 1950s Communist Party through the 1980s Central America solidarity movement.

Originally posted by mike dangerously
Cool thread as always,Leo! S&F for you.

They have been messing with various mind control techniques for years now look at Srihan and Chapman.I think subliminal programing is also being used as we speak.

Thanks mike dangerously.

I agree Chapman was MK-Ultra and I can see how Sirhan might possibly have been.

However, the fact that he is known by two names, Sirhan Sirhan, instead of the three name formula, like Lee Harvey Oswald, makes me question it.

I am not stating I disagree with you but there is something off about him.

It could be that those people who assassinated Bobby felt they needed a different tact, due to killing Jack, so they chose a different angle to take down another Government official.

Who knows.

reply to post by Aggie Man


Hey, anything looking at elitism, and making fun of it is okay in my book.

Fiction or otherwise.

Sure your wife "made" you go though?

Was she "pushing" you to go?



I mentioned this book by Craig Roberts yesterday, and did not get back online in time to edit the picture of the book cover prior to the edit clock running out.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/8b420724442c.gif[/atsimg]

Very interesting book.

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reply to post by timewalker


That is some serious in your face programming right there. I wonder what effect this has on someone who knows nothing about what we are discussing?

I'm cutting and pasting this(it's my reply in a different thread). I have notcied a specific pattern of ad nauseum repetition in this thread, and in the media coverage surrounding it....It's from the thread I made about the PSU Professor being investigated.

I find something interesting in all of the replies that I wanted to point out: There seems to be a lot of debate over whether Bucharest is FBI. The facts of the case more or less rule out this possibility. but in all the coverage of this so far, it has been said, ad nauseum, that he is not affiliated with the FBI. That the FBI denies knowledge. Etc , etc. Here's the thing: Why has there been absolutely ZERO mention of the possibility that this man is affiliated with the CIA or some other covert intel group, or, for that matter, XE, or another private contractor? The wording in each source is VERY specific to mention FBI, repeatedly, but only FBI. It's as though the idea is to keep all eyes on the FBI.

[edit on 10-2-2010 by captaintyinknots]

reply to post by captaintyinknots


What in the world kind of reply is that anyway? Add nauseum? I'd like to know. Please I've got my tinfoil hat on so your rays are useless. I like the location you've listed. See below.

Originally posted by jackflap
reply to post by captaintyinknots

 

What in the world kind of reply is that anyway? Add nauseum? I'd like to know. Please I've got my tinfoil hat on so your rays are useless. I like the location you've listed. See below.

I have no idea what you are talking about.

It was not a reply to you, it was a contribution to the thread, which has mentioned ad nauseum repetition as a form of conditioning.

Tin foil hats be damned.

reply to post by captaintyinknots


I see now. Forgive me if I came across as accusatory but I wasn't sure where you were going with what you posted. I blame it on my own ignorance. As for the video I discovered, WTF?

Originally posted by jackflap
reply to post by captaintyinknots

 

I see now. Forgive me if I came across as accusatory but I wasn't sure where you were going with what you posted. I blame it on my own ignorance. As for the video I discovered, WTF?

No need to apologize.


As for the video, thats where my SN and avatar came from. Just some little video that went viral a while back that I found humorous, and found myself quoting months later.

reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas

Just joking about the pusher thing. In regards to your first reply, I think the agents are around here just to persuade the opinions of people to a favorable view, theirs. Who could blame them? As you said, doing nothing is not a good tactic anymore. Too many are starting to open their eyes and the instant communications just made it that much harder to control. Roll out the mind police.

It seems that if an important story comes up, they come in full force. I used the Norway spiral as an example because, IMO it is something that they just want to go away. I do believe it started as a missile launch, but then I think something else happened. Something not in U.S. or Russian control. That is not a good thing for the U.S. Military Industrial Complex or Russia. What happened, I cannot even speculate, well I could but it just that, speculation that I have not the expertise to back up. But I see the threads, just going and going and going, nowhere. Just to the point of nausea. Move along nothing to see here.......

Now Jay-Z, I do not have a problem with the video. In fact I kind of like it. I have a problem with the timing of the premier. But I think the premier was timed to get the most effect on the most people, how many little kids were watching at that time?

I do not think he is doing it on behalf of the government. Not the one we see anyway. I do think it just works out dandy for somebody's sinister agenda. I know you think the Illuminati is a phantom menace, perhaps so, but the idea of the official government making a strawman called the Illuminati is even more sinister. I like to think the good guy's are just that. Though I have my doubts. That just means we really are on our own. Maybe not intentionally Jay-Z doing the bidding, perhaps he is an MK Ultra or similar program, victim himself. Or maybe just a good case of blackmail. You like your new life, well here are your options kind of thing. But it was an opportunity none the less for someone. Why would anybody think that was appropriate at that time?

I hate to use Alex Jones' motto here, but there is a war on for you mind. I hate fighting back an enemy we cannot see, but that is the new warfare.

I think I saw it earlier in someones post, You do not win a war with guns, you win it by winning the minds of the people. Or something like that. Around here they are losing that war and are bringing out all the guns possible. This is the front line.

Man, I use the pronoun I a lot.


[edit on 10-2-2010 by timewalker]

reply to post by timewalker

Stay away from AJ. He is pro israeli, a useful diversion, an injected agent, just as palin is to the tea party,

"haven't you heard, it's a war of words..." by Floyd is better, and it most definitely is.

I wrote Carol Rutz several times to tell her to get the hell off her high personal horse and face it: it is now possible to suck victims in to the mkultra submission phase via mere sound and vision (the media). She is so busy spewing about her personal, and by today's standards, very primitive conditioning. I am pretty sure she forwards stuff to the mossad, cia, as well. I want everyone to know, not just some jews in government.

The bottom line with conditioning is 'submission'. This is something you should remember if nothing else: DO NOT SUBMIT to believing ANYTHING the jews tell you through their weaponized media tools. I have spent years trying to put together how the tones, the music, the positioning of images and vocal inflections all work together to create a sense of helplessness. If anything, the exact opposite of what they say is closer to the truth. If you'll notice, timing is key. When you surf away from one propaganda story you will observe that channel programming of the exact same set of tones and images and stories appear on the next channel, and the next, and so on, timed exactly to coincide with your surfing progress. This is simply to reinforce a sense of hopelessness. It states strongly that 'this is really true, and everyone will believe it is so, do not even dare to doubt it'. It works for any intended conditioned response, whether it's about the dad who gave 'aids'™ to his kid, the traveler on a plane who has tb, or the daring dog rescue thrown in to make yu think they have a real soul. Try to catch the earliest broadcasts for false flag events. Tape them. Joseph Moshe is never to be heard from again, but we all remember how this guy acted calm as a clam while being hit withvial after cannister of teargas, knowing that this is quite likely the day I die... Why didn't the media straighten this out? He was going public with information that had a very short time fuse. The jews shamelessly informed us that this man made 'threats against the white house'. Instead, shares of Baxter shot up (manipulation because they were about to mandate forced vax), despite the genocide virus loaded vaccines, and media efforts redoubled 'historic' healthcare passage efforts (they are going to use the e weapons to cause illness; doctors/med tech conglomeration will reap huge windfalls).

But it is America that died, once again, for what should it matter if a nation die, if israel survive? They learned long ago that they can only steal America from within, using weapons of media. They'll need palin on TV to use Jesus to start a war with 'eye-ran' in order for them to continue grabbing middle east parcels. Wars are always good for jews. It allows shifting of maps and they are always at the helm, controlling things. Here they are using germs, fear, chemtrails, assassinations, juju's, mkultra etc, for they are in charge. We're simply the fodder. A teacher can not say 'God' in school, but a nation can use 'God' to steal land and lives. Without a continent of blithering hypnosis victims ready to kill for a living (job creation), isreal would look worse to the world than they already are known to be. America is again to be the scapegoat for their plunder. Whoops...we killed the wrong country. Jesus told palin we should now glassify eye-ran....

Millions of viewers must have seen the channel 4 (Denver I think) footage of a cruise missile slamming tower 2, from a helicopter. (youtube final zoom no big plane) But only ONCE. Then, a million times a million times jews had to add lie to lie to make good bad and the bad good...until you find that you are a traitor for thinking anything different....


NEVER FORGET!!!

[edit on 10-2-2010 by davidmann]

reply to post by davidmann

Oh I gave up on AJ a while back. He is pretty transparent. The thread a few weeks ago of him crashing the protest in Austin, TX. over second amendment rights just drove the final nail. He could have easily jumped on stage and been the show stealer. But instead he crashed a legitimate protest just grandstanding on his own. Pompous arse.

I just like the term "there's a war on for your mind".

reply to post by Lastone


I have not seen that movie, thanks for mentioning it, and if Tim Robbins is in it, it's probably pretty good.

I'll have to check it out.

I am sure it's good, I loved him in "Arlington Road".

reply to post by jackflap


Well, knowing what I know about the Food Industry, and Big Business, I have to say I do know that organizations like Pepsi and Coke pay scientists, among other people to do study groups, and launch "fact based" studies.

In other words, paid propaganda, supplied via their "independent studies".

Think of it like a politician who has paid an "out-sourced group" to sling mud at their competition, so they have plausible deniability.

Originally posted by davidmann
How far have they come?

Far enough to break it wide open, by remote control, with no need of hard 'implants'.

Being aware of this leaves 2 possible paths. Shut up and obey. Or appeal to God. If you are a God denier, move on. You can play games with them without the benefit of God's grace. Sooner or later they will grow a web just for you, and you'll hardly feel a prick.

Can you back that up with some websites or perhaps a book reference?

Not stating I do not believe you.

I am however asking for some source references, for my edification.

Originally posted by davidmann
Short circuiting the mind feels just like it sounds. You can feel yourself die for an instant. Then you have to turn over so they can start roasting the other side of your brain. You can move to another locale and try to sleep as well, and let them relocate you with the scanning equipment, which gives you a little time for rest, before the shocks return. I have witnessed many of their direct attempts at physical harm. While taking care of a huge empty steel plant, I witnessed many high powered assaults immediately upon entering the cold dark empty structure. They can make breathing seem difficult, a new sensation for me. They can cause collapse. If someone is with you, they may suddenly feel feint, or animals might try to approach you, or just hang out at the edge of the zone, perhaps curious about the energy flowing down from the satellite(s) being used for the flow. I believe they derive a sort of fringe benefit by remaining just at the edge of the rain. One time, when entering the plant, I saw a HUGE white owl perched on an industrial lamp affixed to the bldg. The wings were about 8 feet across as it flew to the east. Other times I have awoken from sleeping outdoors or in my car to find deer or raccoons climbing about the outside. I believe I am on permanent with them. Maybe the jujus had something to do with it, formed a sort of antennae in me that enables tracking. How would I know. (jujus are small laboratory syringes which were placed in all my gloves, and my tobacco stash, during a period of about 5-6 years, which effortlessly pierced my fingers a thousand times). Jujus are amber tinted cylindrical darts, approx .0001" in diameter and perhaps .075" long when in one piece. Each assault requires about two months to extract using surgical tweezers, sometimes a blade. Out come miniscule broken shards of hollow glass tubing affixed to near invisible strands of 'silk' up to 8 inches in length. You can see them because the blood attaches to the strands. tptb deemed this as 'morgellons', but of course I know better, as do thousands of others who can see the strands but don't have the skills to dig out the actual glass pieces, or who just don't know about them.

Any threads where you have some research done on this information?

I am an ATS scholar, I'm now curious, and concerned.

Please, elaborate with some more in depth information, to illuminate us.

Originally posted by davidmann
They don't just kill anyone who sees the political writing on the wall. They like to conduct experiments. They like snacks. As a reward for their research, they will toss a few favors at you...things that will make your balls spin, from time to time, while you're fully conscious even. Fake dreams of fulfillment can be conjured etc.... You will have trouble knowing which visions are fake and which are of God.

Who is the they you are referring to, specifically?

Originally posted by davidmann
If you are misbehaving, then you will find yourself in an arena of humiliation. The afterglow will last a few hours, and the dream they give, in this case, is meant to be remembered. Sometimes they'll show you deep secrets, and then erase them, just to see how well the eraser works.

I have no words for my thoughts on what you've said here.

Originally posted by davidmann
It works pretty well...recalling the erased parts is near impossible. The bizarre symbolism that springs up during such a dream is quite remarkable. But you won't remember, for instance, how the flowing energy that seems like it's underground and embodies all your relations, works. Bright vivid colors, strands of flowing energy, a bit like that scene in Space Odyssey. Many times upon wakening I see characters from ancient languages, sometimes Egyptian, sometimes Chinese. Sometimes there's a spirograph pattern, other times a matrix of sorts. If you are lucky you'll see a real spindle orientation component! No worries. I am certain Sarah Palin will make banning electronic harassment the very first thing on her agenda

[edit on 10-2-2010 by davidmann]

What you are speaking about sounds like, not that I am saying it is, memory implants, and mind washing, as in complete erasure of information.

reply to post by impressme


Considering H.A.A.R.P. is militarily funded, anything is possible, anything indeed.

I had replied to someone who was arguing about H.A.A.R.P. not being a Weather Weapon, and I took that part out of it, not that I was stating it was or was not true, in other words, not ceding to them they were correct, but took it to the D.A.R.P.A., and D.O.D. funding, and dual-use technology.

H.A.A.R.P. was a military facility, which is now civilian, merely as a means of side-stepping many different requirements under F.O.I.A., and other reasons to keep the experimentation more secret.

They can claim whatever they want about H.A.A.R.P. and have scientists protest non-weather related experiments, hoping their PHD's will cover it up, but there are far too many books, and far too many "conspiracy theorists" digging far too deeply into what H.A.A.R.P. does to keep it completely secret.

I still maintain H.A.A.R.P. is a Tesla invention.

[edit on 10-2-2010 by SpartanKingLeonidas]