Originally posted by archasama
In my opinion the earthquake was definitely anthropological and what is going own is occupation of Haiti. When America sees oil - America takes oil by any means necessary got to keep those Hummers running.

Every good civilization player would occupy little and weak country that has precious resources (oil). Through the eyes of gamer and strategically thinking man.

You know I wish people would think before posting some of this stuff. America isn't taking oil from anybody to "keep those hummers running." If that was the true story wouldn't we have busted OPEC when we took over Iraq? Wouldn't we have rebuilt the almost disabled oil fields and started gushing out 12 million barrels a day? Then we could have crushed OPEC's hold on markets.

We didn't and why didn't we? Keeping OPEC together means more profits for American oil companies. If OPEC puts a death grip on production if blasts profits through the roof. IF America attacks a country for oil it isn't to keep Jim Bob's H2 running. It is to make sure that the oil reserves aren't privatized. If the oil fields are nationalized it is much easier to "convince" a country to join OPEC. This means the Oligarchy is held together and nobody is threatening Mobil or BP's profit margin.

Besides all of that has anybody thought about refinery capacity? Last I heard the bottleneck on getting more oil to people is the ability to refine what is being pumped. So what good does it do to occupy a country with no oil infastructure and invest money in to building capacity if they don't have the ability to refine it?

Just my double penny.

edit for some spelling and a wrong word.

[edit on 9-2-2010 by MikeNice81]

Originally posted by archasama
When America sees oil - America takes oil by any means necessary got to keep those Hummers running.

Every good civilization player would occupy little and weak country that has precious resources (oil). Through the eyes of gamer and strategically thinking man.

I object. It is not the owners of Hummers who are doing this. The American people have totally lost control of their government. This is the result. It is the fault of the American people, but only because they let themselves be deceived by a "shadow government" that took over American money and American resources and American military to benefit the elite banksters.

This is some serious stuff! I dont know how much of it is reliable but I have to agree if this is happening it could have implications on the whole world... I personally sent clothing, food, and toys to Haiti, I know of several other familys who have done the same as well. Not to mention the fundraisers and that Help For Haiti concert.

Originally posted by mikellmikell
So the US should just pull out and see how things go. Well we know how it would go don't we!!!!

It would be a whole lot better than this. If the Haitians were totally isolated and cut off from the world they would be better off and manage somehow working together, but with an invading army with guns to shoot looters or rioters or who knows who, Haiti is in a very bad place.

Well, good thing we know whos fault this is.....

G. W. Bush. A timebomb set before he left the Oval Office for the last time.

Just ask Obama......

Regardless, I am sure the place will be much better off when we leave or are done doing whatever they are doing.

History will see us as the good guys.

Well Im sure we have to be there because of looters and stuff, we have to overlook distrabution or there will be more deaths. Thats why we are there anyway.

aron72 is right, history will see us as the good guys

[edit on 9-2-2010 by theflamingswan92]

Originally posted by m khan

Originally posted by mikellmikell
So the US should just pull out and see how things go. Well we know how it would go don't we!!!!

It would be a whole lot better than this. If the Haitians were totally isolated and cut off from the world they would be better off and manage somehow working together, but with an invading army with guns to shoot looters or rioters or who knows who, Haiti is in a very bad place.

Have you paid any attention to history? Haiti has not been a good country to live in for a long while.

In 2004 there was an armed rebellion to over throw the sitting president. The rebellion started becaus his supporters were killing his opposition, fire bombing radio stations, and muredering journalist.

Afterwards the UN came in and installed a "provisional" government. The president elected in 2006 was elected amid "uncertanties" and public protest. The UN still had "peace keepers" and administrative staff there when the earthquake hit. After being there for six years the UN had failed in their mission to stabilize the government. They also failed to help Haiti crawl out of poverty. It was still the poorest country in the western hemisphere.

That is just the last decade. If you look at the previous decade you will see that it is about the same. Aristide was elected president, he used para-military organizations to murder his oposition, then he was tossed out by a rebellion.

From 1957 - 1971 "Pappa Doc" ran the country. He was known for organizing the farmers in to a para-military force that murdered about 30,000 people in fourteen years. That was after Pappa disbanded the military and killed all of the generals. He then disbanded the police force and gave his farmer army amnesty for any crimes they comitted.

1971 - 1986 the country was run by Papa Doc's son "Bebe Doc." He kept the paramilitary in place. He relieved some of the official pressure on the press, but (according to some) he still ordered the death of his more strident critics. The fact that he lived as a playboy, using government funds to finance a lavish lifestyle, left Haiti unprepared to face outbreaks of disease among the nations pigs. It also left Haiti unable to respond to the emerging AIDS epidemic that nearly eradicated tourism in the early to mid 1980s. In 1986 he was sent in to exile.

Sounds like a country that really does great on it's own.

occupation is THE best thing that can happen to haiti wich by the way wasnt invaded there is troop presence in the country of haiti IN port au prince they arnt invading haiti the country people. when this chaos blows over many will be surprised how the eeevil USA has improved the quality of life in the city of port au prince. wich was before the quake comparible to HELL on earth.

But of course it is a conspircy? or is it?

Also I thought Haiti is one of our biggest coffee supliers. so that may also have some economic reasons for all this.

awesome! a super force of military destruction is amassing in a giant trash heap of disease and stink!... 700+ miles away! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!

For those of you claiming that the military presence is well justified and needed, ask yourselves this: If your country was absolutely devastated on a national scale, would you want a bunch of foreign troops, especially from the most notorious imperialist nation of the 20/21st century to come barging into your country without any consent from your government?

It's a tough question, and one that I find trouble finding the right answer to.