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ALERT!!!! InvAID: 140+ (and growing) Articles on The Ongoing Militarization of Haiti

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posted on Feb, 9 2010 @ 08:47 AM
Hi there! I remmember watching on TV, the American troops going into Haiti. They started their operation and took charge. After a while the Airport was over-run with planes, forcing diversions to the Dominican Republic.
They had troops in a chain line emptying plane after plane of Aid.
I also noticed that when they we're deployed, each Soldier had their guns on their shoulder. Now i know that they must always have their weapons handy, but do you think its really neccesary for the additional weight and, the perception that they instill?
They are there for a humanitarian mission but have guns. I dont want to hear that its for protection... From what? Another earthquake? Their gonna shoot the floor? Nooo.. There going to shoot ''LOOTER'S.''
So, from the Haitian perspective, your asking for help, and Aid comes into the country, which no doubt, their thankfull for, yet, there and then starts all the red-tape, organisation and TIME WASTING!, tasks. Then there's the '' Not enougth petrol/fuel e.t.c. " arguements. Yet CLEARLY! When the Television News reporters where doing their jobs, the amount of Vehicles moving about in the background didnt show the islands fuel shortage.
So to the point, we have people in need that can see vital supplys just a hundred meters away, on the other side of a fence, yet there not being 'dished out' quickly, hence making the desperate people more willing to steal anything that will enable self-preservation. Hence the Looting. Then comes the Shooting.
What we have is public diss-order, and as mentiond in the OP, threats of rioting. Which is inevitable if Aid is not spread quick enougth. Also you'll have reprisals from the freinds and familys of shot looters, that may have just been searching for their own possessions. Tensions will rise, and ive all ready seen TV Broadcasts showing Haitian people blaming the 'white man.'
This is more fuel to the fire and that will then cause the pot too boil over.

If you starve of Aid to the people, when they KNOW it is there, things WILL definately happen. Thats all it takes is a trigger happy soldier and riots will ensue.

posted on Feb, 9 2010 @ 08:52 AM
Haiti may be the beginning of something much worse. Do we know what happened to all the people in Katrina. Were any murdered on the sly by DHS and Fema. Fema camps are still off limits and top secret even though they are being staffed by National Guard.One woman was arrested and put in a mental hospital for getting too close to one. Doesn't the one in Missouri actually have a gas chamber? Has anyone leaked any information about the interiors of the Fema camps? This seems way off subject but it isn't really. Are the people of Haiti being murdered on the sly? Is our government withholding food and water to force the people into more violence so they can fire upon them and withholding medical care so that more will die of their wounds? Obviously I don't trust the government. I am not paranoid, I was last year when I started reading about things. We die when we die, but the government is run by Nazis and will probably kill us if they think they can get away with it. One wishes that America would wake up and make it a little harder for them but it is not likely.Keep your head in the sand people and don't look too hard at what your government does.

[edit on 9-2-2010 by m khan]
Why are these Baptist accused kidnapers in jail? Is anyone able to communicate with them? Are there things going on there that they felt that these kids would probably die if they didn't get them out? There were reporters in 1971 who risked death to get back into the country, Bangladesh, to find out what was really happening. It looks like our press is much more muzzled now then it even was then.

[edit on 9-2-2010 by m khan]

posted on Feb, 9 2010 @ 09:07 AM
reply to post by loveguy

Everyone has to realize that if there wasn't Military there the drug lords would take all of the food. Why do you think it says that they were guarding a cart of food? Because they are like savages there is no order! In return this makes it take longer to disperse food(because it has to be guarded). Just look at Africa and then you will understand.

posted on Feb, 9 2010 @ 09:41 AM

You people make a conspiracy out of anything!

Don't you lot have anything better to do?

We cant have the flu without a conspiracy, a terrorist attack or earthquakes!

I take it HARP caused the quake for the purpose of this invasion!?

Seriously, get a grip, get in the real world...

posted on Feb, 9 2010 @ 10:01 AM
Well, it is a sad day for those and water in abundance and they cannot have any, and looks like Empire America has found a new source of oil, so I guess we are not getting hydrogen fuel anytime soon. This just so reminds me of what happened in New Orleans not so long ago. Does ATS have anyone on the ground there for a report?

posted on Feb, 9 2010 @ 10:07 AM




What kind of 'people' would be evil enough to do something like this? How evil must they truly be?

Dirty filthy Zionist Terrorist N.W.O springs to mind.

[edit on 9-2-2010 by Jinni]

posted on Feb, 9 2010 @ 10:11 AM
reply to post by redpilll

You might call them Conspiracies but if they're not, they're VERY BIG CO-INCIDENCES!

Co-incidences can and do happen, but on such a large scale and when they happen a LOT, the word conspiracy comes into play.

Given how the World leaders have such a greed for OIL and to CONTROL us, I don't think these are co-incidences!

Take a big step back and have a good think about it!

It does all make sense at the end of the day, so much so, that you can almost predict the next move!

posted on Feb, 9 2010 @ 10:14 AM
In my opinion the earthquake was definitely anthropological and what is going own is occupation of Haiti. When America sees oil - America takes oil by any means necessary got to keep those Hummers running.

Every good civilization player would occupy little and weak country that has precious resources (oil). Through the eyes of gamer and strategically thinking man.

posted on Feb, 9 2010 @ 10:46 AM
reply to post by Monts

According to sensationalist Russian website, Pravda, the USA and UN geologists had been found a 3 billion oil drums reservation and metal sources in Haitian underground. Maybe it's truth or maybe it's another comunist bogus spread by Russian clowns. The Pravda posted a seven pages content to support this statement. Russians are getting desperate 'cos the installation of American bases in Colombia, is threatening the expansion of narco-socialism, led by Hugo Chavez, the puppet of Vlad Putin. Obviously nobody dares deny what oil industry is capable of to do, with a poor busted small nation, like Haiti. But Russians aren't that reliable...

[edit on 9-2-2010 by ucalien]

posted on Feb, 9 2010 @ 10:53 AM
I guess I am not seeing the conspiracy here yet...disaster happens to our neighbor whom is arguably a stones throw away from being part of the US anyhow...we send tons of military to contrast the previous reaction to disaster (lesson learned, slow or ineffectual reactions = seriously bad press).

Control rioting, try to restablize the government...If we wanted their oil, lets say, we hardly need to start a military coup...they are about as pro west as you can get without being a state...we would simply ask them and bribe a few top officals to make sure they dont get too grumpy (so long as the country also benefitted from the arrangment).

So, what other motive could there be? stable government and non-rioting people = faster back to business for everyone...even discluding the whole "its the right thing to do" as a reason why there is such a massive and immediate buildup.

Not to say their isn't other special interest motives, but I am of the view that the special interest is pretty transparent overall.

posted on Feb, 9 2010 @ 10:57 AM
So the US should just pull out and see how things go. Well we know how it would go don't we!!!!

posted on Feb, 9 2010 @ 11:09 AM
reply to post by Monts

Thats pretty sad reading... i havn't been watching the news of late on this Earthquake but going by what you have posted it sure looks like people's donations havn't gone where they were supposed to be going...

How many of you gave cash to the cause?

Do you feel it was worth it after reading the OP?

You do know that the people don't see a penny of that don't you?


posted on Feb, 9 2010 @ 11:11 AM
One thing I know for certain is that the amount of humanitarian aid gathered and available to assist is already in excess amounts. Here we have a small country of 10 million people, which was strictly impoverished in the most extreme sense receiving an outpouring of international support over the past month valued at many times over their annual GDP and barely nothing getting through.

I'm not even referring to the cash that's been raised, I'm talking about actual physical goods used to sustain life (food, water, clothing, shelter, medicine).

My local nearby town of a 50,000 people had since collected shipping container after shipping container of these goods, completely ready for dispersal/distribution. How many other towns out there have done the same? Yet, nothing is getting through except what the military allows which is sparse bits of aid they control and administer like some kind of social catastrophe experiment.

It as though they are practicing the control and distribution of supplies like it would play out if there actually weren't many to go around. However, they exact opposite is the case. These people should already be making use of the seemingly infinite amount of supplies from around the world by now. Not just a few Haitians here and there who feel as though they won the lottery because they got a rice meal.

If the military wanted effective distribution of aid, no one in that tiny country would be starving at this stage. Instead they are treading around like saviors who permit or deny individuals assistance based on the social disaster experiment criteria.

[edit on 9-2-2010 by StrangeBrew]

posted on Feb, 9 2010 @ 11:20 AM

Originally posted by blangger
reply to post by loveguy

Everyone has to realize that if there wasn't Military there the drug lords would take all of the food. Why do you think it says that they were guarding a cart of food? Because they are like savages there is no order! In return this makes it take longer to disperse food(because it has to be guarded). Just look at Africa and then you will understand.

And as America we need to save everybody from being savages. We clearly have a grip on that. The only question is, who is going to save us?

We have a funny way of choosing how and who we help. Oddly our way of helping always involves some kind of military intervention. Also as lizard mentioned where was all of this "help" with Katrina?

posted on Feb, 9 2010 @ 11:37 AM
You do realize without military presence there people would riot to get the food. Where would that leave thousands of relief workers? I understand those poor souls have been through a lot recently, but we can't send relief workers in without protection. A time of desperation calls for desperate measures.

posted on Feb, 9 2010 @ 11:45 AM
The ONLY reason U.S. invaded Haiti is so that they can bomb and attack Venezuela and prevent warships from reaching the U.S.

Venezuela will be attacked soon.

For all the nay sayers, open your eyes, since its only days now.

posted on Feb, 9 2010 @ 11:49 AM
I donated 70$ to oxfam, and made sure the rest of my family did the same.

I volunteered for them in highschool, and their aid-money goes directly to the target area with volunteers.

Still a little un-easy about it, but I trust them more than Red-Cross.

posted on Feb, 9 2010 @ 11:50 AM
reply to post by Equinox99

I know what your saying and I agree that its a tough situation. My only question is who decides when they can take care of themselves again and when? They were not living in total harmony to begin with and I doubt that they will just get it together overnight. So does that leave us there patrolling the streets indefinitely?

I guess what im saying is how much help is too much?

[edit on 9-2-2010 by Digital_Reality]

posted on Feb, 9 2010 @ 11:55 AM
I work for the DOD and spent 8 years in the military (96-2000 2001-2005). I was in the Navy and the Army. I have alot of friends still serving and some of them are in Haiti right now. There have been no information restrictions. I got an email from a friend on the hospital ship moored in Haiti. They are rotating hundreds upon hundreds of patients on and off the ship every day. He said the smell on the actual island is horrible. No running water or sewage plus dead bodies makes for horrible work. He is a BM2 (boatsmans's mate second class) and was put on a relief detail. They were trying to get about 2000 pounds of food and supplies to people in the area.

First problem they had were greedy f'ers trying to hoard the supplies. Second problem was rubble. There is nowhere to put all the concrete and wood. You cannot burn concrete. They can't move it by truck for the mostpart and on foot takes alot of time. They are trying.

As for the Army, information is scarce. I could see us taking a foothold there. I trust the government as far as I can throw them but I do work from them. There are advantages to that. The fact is, noone sees more than they want you to.

[edit on 9-2-2010 by Ragnarok691]

posted on Feb, 9 2010 @ 12:14 PM
As a veteran of the US military, I can honestly state that the intentions of the US are nothing less than to establish peace, organize recovery, and rebuild the government as needed to prolong peace. If we were not in Haiti, looting, rape, and murder would be the norm, and thousands more would die.

If you look at the historical record, the US does not claim any properties for extended periods of time, as in "imperialism," unless wanted by the populations of those countries. They can opt out. The age of imperialism died about the time Britain was releasing her colonies.

If you want to use this article as an excuse to not give aid to the dying and homeless in Haiti, that's up to you. I think you couldn't be more off base.

If there is oil in Haiti, that will benefit the Haitians. Just as in other countries, like Venezuela, which we do not conquer and occupy, they will profit and develop better hospitals and communities based on the quality of honesty and morality in their own elected officials. We just help them mine and sell the oil, as we did in Saudi Arabia. You may notice that we do not own nor do we intend to occupy Saudi Arabia.

About 20% of the oil production of the world is Russia. I suppose you think we want to occupy them, too.


The underlying basis for our actions around the world is our Christian heritage. We believe in helping the poor, the afflicted, the widows, the orphans. We strive to have moral leadership in our Congress, our President, and our military forces. I suggest you support these tenets. Send your kids to a good church. Keep our country charitable, kind, and willing to spend the blood of it's youth assisting others in need around the world. Some of you may balk at the idea of Christian help, and for those of you who do, I suggest you count heads. Try to find a Moslem or Buddhist country aiding Haiti.

You want world peace? You want giving? You want "someone" to care? If you were in Haiti today, wouldn't you be lifting your hands in the air and looking to the sky wondering out loud "Where are they?" My friend, who do you think "they" are? I looked around, and it turns out, "they" are us.

If we have any military reason, it is to prevent another situation like Cuba from developing where another power installs their radical beliefs and missiles within shooting distance of Washington D.C. It's bad enough that Venezuela and Cuba have issues. The original concept of the Monroe Doctrine was to keep this hemisphere protected and free. Situations like Haiti can cause governmental collapse, creating a vacuum of leadership that could result in problems for the US in the future. It's better we get our foot on the threshold to assist Haiti as much as possible.

[edit on 2/9/2010 by Jim Scott]

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