Complaining why certain lies are acceptable and others are not !

I guessed this forum is a good one but I really am clueless.
This thread is meant to discuss ! Not just a complain. As religion is also being a topic in societies around the world.


I have seen answers and explanations what annoyed me !

I like to read, give and discus about different believes ! The people who share them I like to read different and all believes about a topic as long as they are a result of someone really has come up with using their believes when they give their opinion.Whatever it is ! I like to get to see what people are coming up with. They are teaching what others are like and how they would react to life and it's understanding of it.

I can't stand it when a reply is made. Giving a BS explanation.
saying because it's written in the bible. Or any holy scripture.

My point is.
Because of religious grounds, the bible is a (reliable) source. Discriminating if criticizing a person thinking it's true and use it as so.
At least take the time think about it. By all means I couldn't care less if it was written on the inside door of a public toilet.
First of all to hear a real opinion, one formed from experience and believe and knowledge ! Never"because the bible says so' explain why you believe it !

Ignorance is having a party.celebrating it's victory on deny !

Second. because I think the situation, have taken place in history with the possibility of corruption. Times corruption really took place.

I do not think or say, ban religion. It is an important influence in the world and how it understanding it comes to be.

Only a plea for denying ignorance !

And most important of all. The institute Church and religion as it's used to achieve control and power.
The Vatican was and is place of monstrosity's and sin.

I was thinking if a rule could be made to prevent situations like this.
Secular law of reacting on topic or only forums religious of origin. Maybe ?

A explanation rule, when religious writing is used, why it's reason to use it.
I can also use a book as source, never will there be a doubt why I chose it, it would be on topic or gives an explanation in the text.

Maybe someone has a better idea ? I'd like to learn other opinions on it ?

Respect and tolerance are a virtue ! Please try master these for optimal conditions !?

As soon as you can get anyone to deny ignorance, give me a ring, it would solve the world's problems.

People are fallible, stupid, fearful, ignorant animals.

We can only aspire to be better. Of course than you have the Paris Hilton wannabes that would wallow in their own filth if it was the IN thing to do.

Decadence and self gratification are the ways of the modern man. I guess you either have to ignore them or join them.

Now where is that filth.

[edit on 2/8/2010 by endisnighe]

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Oh yes you're right. There will always be people acting like well'... idiots !

Yet, when some just are to stupid to think for themselves, I also believe some for just being mentally challenged.

I was well... perplexed to read a lot of reply and post with an officious religious influence. To a point I concluded there are people here, believing every single word written in the bible to be literally true.
I didn't expected it. Certainly not on the issues in here.

The acceptance of biblical facts and knowledge is also weird. Expecting a atheist kind of ideology.

If these believes would be used anywhere else then our evangelical broadcasting tv. It would be slammed down and ridiculed in public.

We are forcing religious believes to be put aside for the right gay people to teach at schools of Christian believe and values.

I do agree they have a right to be treated equal.
I do also think people have the right to their believes as freedom of religion gives them.

It's disgusting to see certain ideas are purposely sabotaged and ridiculed.

If I don't want t socialise with skinheads, because of what they represent.
it is possible for a skinhead to complain. And I will be forced to do socialise

Because it is exactly the same situation.

We lose the freedom to make our own decisions.


I was under the impression the situation regarding to an oppressed belief system was far worse .

This thread is meant to discuss ! Not just a complain.

You have to just get use to it.Most the people that you are complaining about are juveniles.There is a large number of them that are visiting this site.

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I mentioned it especially for my own intentions. So people wouldn't think the exact same you just said.

Thanks anyway.

Originally posted by Sinter Klaas
reply to post by endisnighe

 

Oh yes you're right. There will always be people acting like well'... idiots !

Yet, when some just are to stupid to think for themselves, I also believe some for just being mentally challenged.

It is everyone's right to be an idiot, but it just goes to show that our edumacation system nowadays it geared toward group think, not analytical thinking.

I was well... perplexed to read a lot of reply and post with an officious religious influence. To a point I concluded there are people here, believing every single word written in the bible to be literally true.
I didn't expected it. Certainly not on the issues in here.

The acceptance of biblical facts and knowledge is also weird. Expecting a atheist kind of ideology.

I myself believe in a higher power. Just because I think this way, does it mean that I will forgo emperical knowledge or proof? Of course not.

If these believes would be used anywhere else then our evangelical broadcasting tv. It would be slammed down and ridiculed in public.

We are forcing religious believes to be put aside for the right gay people to teach at schools of Christian believe and values.

Christian beliefs (change your believes to beliefs) are just that, beliefs, does not make it true or even believable. One MUST deny ignorance when describing ones own belief system. I am human, I am fallible, if I believe a certain doctrine and certain beliefs are proven false, must not I arrange my views as disengenuous?

I do agree they have a right to be treated equal.
I do also think people have the right to their believes as freedom of religion gives them.

It's disgusting to see certain ideas are purposely sabotaged and ridiculed.

If I don't want t socialise with skinheads, because of what they represent.
it is possible for a skinhead to complain. And I will be forced to do socialise

Because it is exactly the same situation.

We lose the freedom to make our own decisions.


I was under the impression the situation regarding to an oppressed belief system was far worse .

True Christian beliefs are but just a shadow of what they once were. What I am getting at here is the religious doctrine that disallows free thought. Yes as a Christian one must try to frame their thought as the bible or God intended, but God intended us to think, did he not? Organized religion would tell us no! God is IN everyone of us. Even the evil ones that want to subjugate us. We, they, need to see the light that surrounds us.

God Bless and Peace my fellow human. For the righteous shall have everlasting life. Those that persecute righteousness shall live in a lake of fire and persecution.

The TRUE path to righteousness is knowledge and acceptance to the very ignorance that pervades the existence of the human experience.

Judge not, or you shall be judged. Forgive those that trespass and forgive those that transgress, for you are but a LEAF ON THE WIND.

God Bless and Peace.

reply to post by Sinter Klaas


lies are for existance senses and living pretenses, so they are always because of wills, it is of gods drives basically, lot of people will do or say anything to sense being acting above something as if he creates it or enjoying the reward of being real as pretending being superior as real to all what looks livings in real

but of course that definitions are extensively given, usually people limits their wills of that to what they could care about as awareness essence in getting it of lies

Organized Religion is corrupt to the bone, to it's very core.
Many who quote the Bible dont even know what that quote actually meens.
The Bible is a labyrinth, those who quote it better know what they are talking about not just repeating what they have read. If not people will question what is being said. In World where people are begining to wake up from an eternal slumber caused by our own ignorance and the manipulation of the entire Human race by those who appear to be what they are not, we need evidence to back up claims.
No more will people simply bow down to an ancient scripture simply because someone says it's true.
Things have to be studied and understood, it takes a long time.

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Yes and no.

Alot of us are indeed using their brains to think for themselves.

Unfortunately there are also many that don't

The Christian influence in America you see today didn't exist before Nixon. Then there is Iran, which was a basically a western country 30 years ago. With these there are many more examples of nations where religion only recently gained a threshold big enough to force their will on to others..,

Let me see Im supposed to appoint an imaginary friend my personal Lord and saviour because some woman made from a guys rib ate an apple given to her by a talking snake,Im supposed to go to a building where everyone believes this and pay 10 percent of my income there and let the person in charge there terrify me with stories of unworthiness and fire and brimstone and tell me how to live my life playing on negative emotions like shame and guilt to get me to do what they want.

No thanks I think Ill pass.