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Originally posted by Malcram
Originally posted by Quantum_Squirrel
Remember David disclosure in Nov / Dec guaranteed?
Nope. You remember incorrectly.
Lots of people claimed that he guaranteed disclosure by then, but he never did. it was an ATS myth, created so that people could attack him, which they love to do. As so many are addicted to this kind of negativity, few bother to check the facts about what he actually said, or to take it in context. They prefer the myth, because they'd like to feel they are 'justified' in their passionate hatred.
Simply mentioning Wilcock's name is enough to tap another 'gusher' in the deep well of negativity among some of the ATS membership. As some posters have already noted, Wilcock is essentially very positive in his message, and so he enrages those of the opposite polarity.
Beneath all the bluster and denial, this is the fundamental dynamic that is in operation.
[edit on 7-2-2010 by Malcram]
DAVID:
We have got 1 source in particular that has now heard from three different highly placed sources in the intelligence community that he is in contact with, they don't know each other but they do speak to him.
All have independently told him, that a formal government disclosure is being planned before the end of the year.
They all had the exact same date for when this will happen but i cannot say when it is, they all had the basic sequence of events that would happen, there all saying that the television time has been booked internationally for a two hour special.
GEORGE :
Now you say you can't say the date or won't say the date ?
DAVID :
Ah.. if i said the date i could potentially be hurt, so i am not gonna tell you what the date is ..
GEORGE :
But you know the date?
DAVID :
I know the date
GEORGE :
Alright
DAVID :
And i .. er... its BEFORE XMAS BUT AFTER WERE WE ARE NOW (3/11/09)
Originally posted by Tifozi
but you DON'T know about his work that is debunked?
You're totally oblivion to the fact that he released SEVERAL dates for "disclosure", and ALL (not some, not a few, not one...ALL) of his dates failed?...I'm sorry, I don't need to post any links. The fact that you don't know this stuff is just a point on itself.
Originally posted by Quantum_Squirrel
David Wilcox in his own words brought us this information on coast to coast with George noory ust because he says its from an unamed source or insider does not excuse him ..
the ONLY saving grace for Wilcox is at the end of this statement .. and it is a statement on one of the most popular radio shows covering this topic is he says briefly 'IF' this happens at the end..
Originally posted by Tifozi
reply to post by Malcram
Well, I'm not the ignorant here.
I'm not even going to tell you to search outside of ATS.
Just do little research in ATS itself. You'll find all the information you'll need. There has been like 5 or 6 threads every week about Wilcock.
You know, BEFORE he said that disclosure WOULD happen before Christmas, and nothing happened and his credibility went down the toilet.
I find it funny that people give so many credibility to someone that says that he is the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce.
Originally posted by SuperSlovak
If I made a prediction and it never came true, I'd shut my trap, but David just keeps on yappin. Some ats members are so gullible.
Originally posted by Malcram
Originally posted by Quantum_Squirrel
David Wilcox in his own words brought us this information on coast to coast with George noory ust because he says its from an unamed source or insider does not excuse him ..
the ONLY saving grace for Wilcox is at the end of this statement .. and it is a statement on one of the most popular radio shows covering this topic is he says briefly 'IF' this happens at the end..
You see, you are already changing your claim. You previously said Wilcock "guaranteed" it.
You were wrong.
What you say now is quite different to what you claimed above. What remains the same however, is your determination to make your accusations stick. But the evidence doesn't support it. And you really don't need to post the audio or the transcript. I'm very familiar with them and have had this same debate several times.
It does make a difference - a world of difference - if someone informs us of things they say they have been told by sources because it is not their information, they are passing it on. Wilcock consistently held that position. It also makes a huge difference if they explicitly say that it's merely a possibility that it will occur - as you yourself acknowledge, he said "IF this occurs".
You don't have a case, and certainly not the case you started out with but have now changed.
[edit on 7-2-2010 by Malcram]
Originally posted by Maddogkull
reply to post by Malcram
Of course Wilcock is never going to guarantee it.
Remember David disclosure in Nov / Dec guaranteed?
Originally posted by Malcram
Originally posted by SuperSlovak
If I made a prediction and it never came true, I'd shut my trap, but David just keeps on yappin. Some ats members are so gullible.
What "prediction" did Wilcock make?
Can you provide evidence please?
[edit on 7-2-2010 by Malcram]
Originally posted by Malcram
I do wish the people attacking Wilcock would at least stick to the same story.
Originally posted by Quantum_Squirrel
I am determined to have a sensible conversation with people who actually want to debate topics.
You are very hostile for a person claiming to champion someone who spreads positivity.
in MY OPINION you cannot spurt all that information out on live radio , saying that your sources this and your sources that for 2 mins and slip an 'IF' in at the end...
My sources tell me the moon is made of green cheese ? .. IF you find out i am wrong you wont hold it against me right? after all its my unnamed sources telling me this .. but its TRUE!!!!
he says in the next part of the interview ............ when the TRUTH comes out...
he tells you his inside information then slips an 'IF' in at the end ..
I concede maybe i should not have said guaranteed ... it was more of an impression that he relays whilst imparting this inside info. i am big enough to admit this.
People Believe David 100% he gives them a scenario and tells people that it is the TRUTH after slipping in an 'IF'
One little 'IF' does not excuse the 20 wrong things he said in my opinion
Originally posted by Tifozi
Wilcock stated on Coast 2 Coast that he KNEW the disclosure date, and he knew it was real. He said that it has been planed by the Obama administration and it was supposed to end by the end of "this year" (2009 at the time).
He said that he would not disclosure the exact date (well, mostly because he got it wrong on the first date he released, 27th Nov, with the Project Camelot, but he also says that he was afraid to get hurt for that, like, talking to a radio show isn't enough.) but that it would happen BEFORE Christmas or at least, BEFORE the end of the year.
Originally posted by Tifozi
Wilcock stated on Coast 2 Coast that he KNEW the disclosure date, and he knew it was real. He said that it has been planed by the Obama administration and it was supposed to end by the end of "this year" (2009 at the time).
He said that he would not disclosure the exact date (well, mostly because he got it wrong on the first date he released, 27th Nov, with the Project Camelot
but that it would happen BEFORE Christmas or at least, BEFORE the end of the year.
This was a date, forward by him, which he claims that has been passed TO HIM by safe sources.