Originally posted by Unity_99
Originally posted by LeoVirgo
reply to post by Unity_99
I kindly disagree. I dont think anything is trying to trap us here. El was a general term just like our general English term is 'god'. If man
produced false images of god....with a name, there will be distortion.
El is much more ancient then the term Yahweh. What I see in the OT is a people that traveled in many lands trying to compact the many things they
learned of and mabey even once practiced...such as 'names' for god.
Without using what another site says...can you tell me why your gutt feels that we are trapped?
We're not because the pits they dig for us, they fall into. But the evidence is incredible for this conspiracy against the people.
www.greatdreams.com...
www.varchive.org...
vigilantcitizen.com...
Is Ra El
Isis Ra and El/Sat Osiris (the Egyptian trinity!)
The language has been coded by the annunaki for a long time, and their hybrid leaders. The religions are borrowed from Egypt, surrounding areas,
Sumeria, actually to Atlantis.
This is a matrix, heavily coded. Religion and language are two significant ways.
Of course, our hearts set their own goals, we co-create and so they don't really trap us the way we think. Et-man talks about how to live with
integrity and love, and making ammends with those we have tresspassed. Living the right way advances us anyway.
The Olympics is a terrible example of their symbolism.
2012 London, the logo put together (its an anagram) spell zion.
The opening ceremony for the olympics 2010 Vancouver was terrible. We watched it cbc. The words were esoteric symbols and formed peace ---piece/war.
Then Diane or Isis, was in the moon.
Horned violinist, if you didnt know who he was. The next scene was someone flying with wires holding his arms like Peter Pan. I didn't miss it.
It was sickening. Some of its here.
When you know what to start to look for, the whole thing unravels:
Vancouver 2010 Opening & Closing Ceremonies: David Atkins Enterprises (showreel)
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Wow Unity...you are down a rabbi hole that I have not peered down in a while. I too have a deep need to understand the word 'Israel' and have had
threads on the subject as well. But I think the sites that you posted have a few assumptions with nothing to back what is claimed and alot of tying
myths and religions together.
I do believe 'Is' stands for 'Isis'....or better yet, symbolizes the 'female', or 'queen of heaven', or even 'life' itself.
I do believe that 'ra' has been tied into the Hebrew language in a way that the common person will not see it. For in Hebrew, the word 'ra' means
evil.....but yet, it is the middle part of the word of 'Israel', so that poses problems if one wants to break 'Israel' down using Hebrew.
Being that the people of the OT did come out of Egypt and did spend time in Cannon....I dont find it shocking at all that we see the compacting of
many religions or ways into ONE. Many traditions of the OT can be found amongst other lands before the writings of the OT. Do I think this means that
a hidden race of non humans are ruling us here and are using a trap system?? I certainly do not. I have no reason to think that at all. I have
understanding of why the past of man has believed what they did, why they chose the symbolism that they did, why they evolved their beliefs into new
ones over time, but still use traces of the old beliefs.
Now for the 'el' part you mentioned, being Saturn....the proof for this was scarce and not obvious in history. This idea was later added by someone
that was trying to take myths and religions and mix them to 'explain' them.
El was mostly known as a 'Bull God' who had a wife, queen of heaven, and they had many sons together. Nothing in the original belief of 'El' ties
'El' to Saturn. We should be cautious is someone later comes in a wants to tie cultures and beliefs together without much evidence for their
conclusions.
en.wikipedia.org...(deity)
Unfortunately Eusebius of Caesarea, through whom Sanchuniathon is preserved, is not interested in setting the work forth completely or in order. But
we are told that Ēl slew his own son Sadidus (a name that some commentators think might be a corruption of Shaddai, one of the epithets of the
Biblical Ēl) and that Ēl also beheaded one of his daughters. Later, perhaps referring to this same death of Sadidus we are told: But on the
occurrence of a pestilence and mortality Cronus offers his only begotten son as a whole burnt-offering to his father Sky and circumcises himself,
compelling his allies also to do the same. A fuller account of the sacrifice appears later: It was a custom of the ancients in great crises of
danger for the rulers of a city or nation, in order to avert the common ruin, to give up the most beloved of their children for sacrifice as a ransom
to the avenging daemons; and those who were thus given up were sacrificed with mystic rites. Cronus then, whom the Phoenicians call Elus, who was king
of the country and subsequently, after his decease, was deified as the star Saturn, had by a nymph of the country named Anobret an only
begotten son, whom they on this account called Iedud, the only begotten being still so called among the Phoenicians; and when very great dangers from
war had beset the country, he arrayed his son in royal apparel, and prepared an altar, and sacrificed him.
This comes from an account in the following...
In the euhemeristic account of Sanchuniathon Ēl (rendered Elus or called by his standard Greek counterpart Cronus) is not the creator god or first
god. Ēl is rather the son of Sky and Earth. Sky and Earth are themselves children of ‘Elyôn 'Most High'. Ēl is brother to the god Bethel, to
Dagon, and to an unknown god equated with the Greek Atlas, and to the goddesses Aphrodite/’Ashtart, Rhea (presumably Asherah), and Dione (equated
with Ba’alat Gebal). Ēl is father of Persephone who dies (presumably an otherwise unknown Semitic goddess of the dead) and of Athene (presumably
the goddess ‘Anat).
So who or what was 'euhemeristic'??
en.wikipedia.org...
Euhemerus (Εὐήμερος, Euhēmeros, meaning happy or prosperous) (working late fourth century B.C.) was a Greek mythographer at the court of
Cassander, the king of Macedon.
He is chiefly known for a rationalizing method of interpretation, known as Euhemerism, that treats mythological accounts as a reflection of actual
historical events shaped by retelling and traditional mores.
The whole El is Saturn I believe is wishful thinking...too far down the rabbit hole. The idea that all of these traditions and beliefs are set up by
Annuaki and are not fully human is just not for me.
I think the ancients did understand though, that the sun, moon, and planets do have lines of energy that Earth and man are connected with. I do
believe in the powers of the energies of the spheres....but not in the way that these energies are controlling or even act on their own. All energy
available to humans is meant to be there for us to use, in healing and understanding. I have witnessed the power of Saturn...and am forever changed. I
know all the spheres are connected by energy, electricity, and magnetism. There is a matrix, and the spheres are the nodes. Energy lines run off of
people just as so. The ancients used the idea of 'god' for things they couldnt explain or understand....and some might of had better understanding
of the energy in the cosmos then man does today.
I do believe there have been races here on Earth that we would not recognize as Earthlings today. All cultures have a telling of the 'tall shining
ones'. Im not too fast to assume I have understanding of those people, and I dont shrug off the idea that they were just the race of being that was
here long ago and changed over time.
Just adding my thoughts...I appreciate you sharing all of that with me though...it made me do a bunch of reading last night with the whole Saturn and
El thing.
Ironically, I do feel that Saturn is tied into earth and the beings apone it. I believe Saturn is where the 'watchers' reside and offer protection.
But I dont connect Saturn with El....mabey Ill find something that changes that, who knows....
My best to you and yours
LV
OMG! I just woke up and saw this thread, the last thing I have in mind before I slept is exactly the same words you said on the last part of your
thread. Maybe not the exact words as my native tongue is not English, but exactly the same meaning. 
