Well, same god different name. Its personal opinion based on how you want to "praise" or thank him..her..it..lets stick with The. Ima call it The, creator of the universe. Guess what, its the same one you worship.

not so...
and this is going to have to be a protracted thread!

why?

Because I don't just copy-paste and plagiarize!

[edit on 2010/2/6 by YeHUaH ELaHaYNU]

Originally posted by SpeakerofTruth

Now, when one looks at the world today, we scratch our heads. We have so-called "Christians" proclaiming that "All who do not believe as I will burn in hell." Even worse, there are Muslims who call for the beheading and complete annihilation of those who don't believe as they do.

Why? The answer is simple. They are the products of misled doctrines.Yet they keep filling their minds with falsities.

All I can say is I worship the Universal God,not some storm god,or moon god, or any other kind of god. I worship THE GOD,just as Christ did two thousand years ago.

I worship a God that is loving, compassionate and forgiving. What god some other people are worshipping I know not. I know it's not my God.

First, I have to admit that you are right that Jews originally were not very monotheistic. Why? Because Jews were pagans to start with.

Jews only started worshiping one God because Moses saved them, by God's leave. But even after they were lead across the sea, the Jews still reverted to paganism and idol worship very quickly. It was there tradition! Moses was gone for a few days and they went back to their old ways. Even though they were given many signs, many of the Jews still upheld their pagan ways.

But, the Torah was ONLY A BOOK OF MONOTHEISM. If they were practicing anything else than the Torah, they were completely misguided and basing their practices on traditions, which had no bases in their religious teachings.

I agree with your assessment that no merciful God would command the Jews to kill every man, woman and child. However, Jews are known for changing history to make it benefit them. This was probably not originally written in the Torah.

This tactic for slaughtering is completely the opposite in Islam. The longest chapter in the Quran is dedicated to rules of warfare. The #1 Rule is that peace contracts should be made. If they are broken, it gives Muslims the right to kill.. But only the right to kill men. No child or woman should be harmed, and also the men should be spared if they chose to convert. This was completely unheard of before Muhammad, as men were never spared under any circumstance. This law was given because the Quran was written by a MERCIFUL God.

On to your claim about Muslims wanting to behead any nonbeliever....

No true Muslim believes this. If they do, they are highly misguided and it is a very very very small percentage. There are non-muslims in every country in the middle east.. And also in Iran, etc. The Quran specifically states that "there shall be no compulsion in religion". It tells us to make peace contracts with the non-believers and only to attack them if they break the promise.

You say that you only worship a merciful God. As a Muslim, I can say the same thing. The most often repeated phrase in the Quran, the statement that starts out 113 out of 114 chapters in the Quran is "Bismillah- Irrahman - Irraheem"..

This means: "In the name of God, most gracious, most merciful"

Allah is only the Arabic word for God, but in Arabic, names are actually attributes. Allah is given 99 names, and his 2 most important are "Gracious" and "Merciful". If you actually read the Quran you would read that he can forgive any sin he wants to, other than idolatry (if maintained until death).


Yes, we worship the same MERCIFUL and FORGIVING God.

Until you actually read the Quran you are going to continue speaking out of ignorance about things you know nothing about.

Islam is not the same as Judaism (although there are many similarities).

Muslims believe the exact same as you: ORIGINALLY, the Torah was legitimate scripture. But it has been altered over time and perverted. Therefor we do not look at it at all for guidance.

[edit on 6-2-2010 by seattletruth]

The Divine will always be beyond words, although it can be accessed by words to some extent. All major world religions and traditions contain deep wisdom and truth mixed with human folly and superstition. We have reason and common sense, granted to us by (or manifested within us from) the Divine. So we should use our wisdom and common sense to look beyond fear and superstition in any tradtion.

It breaks my heart to see fundamentalists of any religion clinging in fear and ignorance to their "sacred texts" and wooden rituals while the holy rhythm of each day, perfect in and of itself, passes them by.

It has been said that there is something immoral about abandoning your own judgement. People who lay down their own judgement in favor of a purely text-based interpretation of religion (or a religion filtered through any particular "guru" or leader) may think they are proving their devotion through sacrifice of their own judgement. But actually they are turning their backs on one of man's holiest gifts.


[edit on 2/6/10 by silent thunder]

Originally posted by seattletruth

I agree with your assessment that no merciful God would command the Jews to kill every man, woman and child. However, Jews are known for changing history to make it benefit them. This was probably not originally written in the Torah.

Certainly, the Hasmonean Jews were certainly known for this. Not only that, they layed claim to being the only people with the written word!! This is where the whole "The earth is only 7000 years old," crappolla came from.

There are indeed many Gods; however only one "Creator of All That is"; a consciousness that resides in the 7th plane of existence. All other Gods are from the 5th plane and have their own selfish agendas and egos. The God of our Bible is certainly a 5th plane God and not the Creator.