Originally posted by YourPopRock
If you are for the 'birther' argument or against the 'birther' argument, why wouldn't you want final concrete evidence brought out... ratified by
a court... and a decision (final) made on the topic.
I am not a birther, but I'm not
against the movement. I just think they're delusional hypocrites.
As far as final concrete evidence, I would be fine with seeing it come out. I have no problem with that at all. What I have a problem with is that
evidence has been released. And the birthers found it to be 'fraudulent'. ANYTHING that comes out to confirm his birthplace in Hawaii, even from the
Supreme Court, is going to be found 'fraudulent' because the birthers want so badly for Obama not to be president. This whole controversy isn't
about people wanting to uphold the Constitution. It's about hatred of Obama and wanting him out of office by any means possible.
I see these claims in hundreds of places:
"He was either born in Kenya or was a citizen of Kenya or a citizen of Indonesia, Great Britain or even Pakistan, but he's NOT American."
Their focus is not on proving what he IS, it's on proving what he ISN'T. They don't care WHAT piece of evidence makes him ineligible, just so
SOMETHING does. Because they want him OUT.
When the various "Kenyan birth certificates" came into the media, the birthers latched onto them as if they were the holy grail! They wanted to
believe it SO badly that they asked NO questions. There were no "Polariks" coming out with magnified views of the borders and assumptions about what
they should look like. No. They were accepted as fact from a shaky internet video or picture because they met with the birther agenda.
This was so transparent. These people aren't looking for the truth. They're looking for their holy grail.
I'm beginning to see that the Tea Party Movement isn't so much an organization based on the Constitution as a great big Obama hate group branch of
the Republican Party. Where were they when GW Bush was stomping all over the Constitution? They had their noses so far up his ass they couldn't see
straight.
I will never believe that any official document, statement or claim by even the highest courts in the land will quell the hatred and mission of the
birthers. Because while they SAY their concern is Constitutional, their actions contradict their words.
Secondly, I don't like the bullying that is taking place. Obama has done as much and more than ANY other president to prove his eligibility. He
shouldn't have to do even more. Why should he have to go beyond what ANY other president has ever done to prove that he is who he says he is and was
born where he claims? Why?
People say they dread the day when someone can demand our "papers" for proof that we're allowed to be in a certain place... They don't want the
invasion of privacy. Yet this is exactly what they're doing. They are hypocrites.
Finally, if Obama was not eligible to be in the White House, he wouldn't be. There are so many who have hated him from the beginning, that if there
was a shred of evidence anywhere, they would have brought it to senior Republican leadership and Obama would be OUT.
It's only common sense. But then, neither the birthers nor the TPM have shown that they have an abundance of that.
So, let them waste their money, time and effort and spin their wheels for his entire presidency. It serves them right. It's not my concern. It's a
totally futile cause.
[edit on 7-2-2010 by Benevolent Heretic]
The Certification was printed out from the information contained on the
original birth certificate, which Fukino has seen and verified and made a sworn statement to that effect. Try to string those thoughts together and
you'll see that the information on the Certification is valid. Or you'll continue to do what you're doing. Forever. 