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reply posted on 6-2-2010 @ 08:03 AM by 12m8keall2c
reply to post by Grayelf2009



They've had that law here in PA for quite a few years. I don't see any big deal about it. Wipers on typically equates to reduced visibility or inclement weather. The headlight law would seem a good thing and most likely has a significant impact on the number of accidents under those types of conditions.

Drivers more aware of oncoming or surrounding traffic.

This law would seem to have been inspired due to the number of law enforcement either injured or incapacitated as a result of various barricades and/or "booby traps" ... as well as hindering access to a location which might afford sufficient time to "get rid of" evidence.

While I don't see any real cause for law-abiding citizens to be alarmed, I also don't see where they think it's going to prove an effective means of reducing or eliminating the actions and efforts of those targeted by such legislation - Criminals.

They're already breaking the controlled substance laws so what the hey for an additional tacked-on charge of hindering access or what-have-you. ? (if they get caught) ??

Makes no sense.


reply posted on 6-2-2010 @ 08:12 AM by Grayelf2009
reply to post by 12m8keall2c


I also drive with my lights on , I think it makes yous 15% less likey to be hit which are good odds.

As for the OP, you win....I get to worked up about the constant new laws. I will disciplin myself and stay off of Infowars for a month.



reply posted on 6-2-2010 @ 08:52 AM by WarloriousCreed
reply to post by 13AJJONES



uh huh... because people (maybe like you) can't *SNIP* and get away with it all the time... lets revolt. You can't think of a better reason???


mod edit, remove drug reference

[edit on Sat Feb 6 2010 by DontTreadOnMe]


reply posted on 6-2-2010 @ 08:56 AM by Estharik
reply to post by 13AJJONES



My mom has had problems with a broken leg for almost 15 years now, it won't heal. She went to get groceries one day and ended up getting pulled over with a DUI even though she was prescribed the meds. She hadn't been speeding or driving wrecklessly but they followed her almost 5 miles before pulling her over. She ended up passing the road to our house just to avoid getting a ticket right in front of the house for our neighbors to see. I had to go pick up the car and the cops treated me like I was doing something wrong when I got there. To me it was clear targetting for ticket revenue. The judge ended up dismissing the charges in exchange for some class and not driving while under the influence of meds anymore... worked out on her end but still stupid none the less.

I think this new law is to target people fortifying their houses regardless if they're breaking the law or not. TPTB doesn't want you to be able to combat their objectives, even if on a defensive level on your own property.


reply posted on 7-2-2010 @ 12:45 AM by truthquest
reply to post by thisguyrighthere



The point is that the judge can now add a brutal and unjust sentence for any crime you commit on a whim. This works with any crime. If you steal that is bad. But if you wore gloves that is a burglary tool and you're in for another year. And forget about getting out if you had gloves, a flashlight, and didn't register with South Carolina as a thief. Littering? Why not a year in prison? $25 fine for littering, six months for being distracted while littering, and six months for not reporting yourself to the police after you've littered. They could also add a $1,000 plus 1 more year because you didn't pre-register with the state as a litterer. We live in a police state and it can get much worse.

I'd suggest people look into the Free State Project and also Seasteading.
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