Hey there,

Yes, i am a firm believer that if Man hadn't hunted and killed Animals for their skins we would be living with them... they wouldn't be afraid of us as they are and they wouldn't attack us if we happened to walk into their territory.... i believe that we would be able to walk up to a lion and stroke it (after the initial surprise), walk upto a bear and play with it (after the initial surprise), that Birds of Prey would fly to us and land on our hands (as they do in some cases.... Falconry for example), I also believe that Foxes wouldn't be so scared of us as they are (due to hunting and us taking their habitat).....

I'm willing to lay a bet that if we knocked down most of these buildings that are clogging up the World and bought back Nature & Wildlife that this could be achieved.

You must agree that when you look out your window or go for a walk (In City areas) that all that Concrete facing you everywhere isn't the best of sights....

The Corporate World has destroyed our friendship with Nature & Wildlife.... we need to get this Friendship back!!

I am striving for my Paradise.... what are you doing?

[edit on 6-2-2010 by TruthxIsxInxThexMist]

I have a feeling critters were trying to eat us before we went after them. But it could be the chicken and egg thing. I have 45 acres within a dump od a city and have 15 deer that I take care of and they take care of me. I don't want the herd to get too big it's hard enough to take care of now.

Grizzly Adams the TV show was loosely based on a legend of a trapper who was wanted by the law (supposedly innocent) and retreated into the mountains to live alone. It is rumored that he had a pet grizzly bear that he saved after its mother was killed and which he raised by hand. That is indeed possible, but I seriously doubt he tickled its belly much, or even play-wrestled with it after it grew.

Most higher animals form bonds with 'family', and in certain circumstances that family can include members of a different species. This is not the norm, however, but the exception. Had the legendary Mr. Adams tried to walk up and pet any other grizzly besides the one he 'tamed', he would have been seen as an attacker and summarily removed from existence. And that is all assuming the legend is true. Legends have a tendency to grow beyond factual reality.

I am in complete agreement with Muckster: respect, admire, and even love nature, but in order to do these things, one must first understand nature. Nature is not cuddly and cute. Nature does not care about you. Nature is kill or be killed, survival of the fittest, and life from death. It is majestic and awe-inspiring, but dangerous at the same time.

Back in the day when I was a young redneck, I used to retreat into the mountain behind my home and stay there for days, surviving off the land. It was my altar, my sanctuary. But I understood it. I knew when I saw a black bear cub to give it plenty of berth; mama was nearby and probably wouldn't like me playing with it. I knew better to walk up to a mountain lion (or even a bobcat) and try to treat it like a pet. Oh, I could feed the animals; several times I have fed pieces of meat to bobcats just to get a good glimpse of them. But I understood that they are wild animals, accustomed to the harshness of nature rather than the cushy lives we humans have forged for ourselves and our pets. They would not react the same way a housecat would. So I accepted them for what they were, and went on my way.

I fear that you have read too many stories about animals returning human kindness. Remember that these are stories told through the ages, and like any such story they have been exaggerated and rewritten to serve the teller's sense of right and wrong. If you really want to understand the subject you are addressing, learn to hike and camp, and experience it for yourself. You will find that there is much more to nature than you believe, some of it dirty and nasty, but some of it more beautiful than even those tales of yore describe.

Oh, and by the way: wolves are carnivores, tame or wild.

TheRedneck

Excellent information~

Totally agree that our current relationship with the animal kingdom is a far shadow, in light of our previous & potential harmony within creation.
This can be said of the plant kingdom as well, as we have no idea of their general relationship with humans...the fact is that every one has medicinal or nutritional value.

It seems on a whole we have separated ourselves from this Earth in as many ways as possible and all in the name of advancement...honestly whos advancement...looking around it seems that this way of life is alien to this planet and its inhabitants optimally functioning design.

Our way of life is not the cause of our separation with nature...it is the effect - the effect of a distorted consciousness, or veiled self image of ourselves as separate individuals striving to find purpose in life; where once we were conscious co-creators.

It is not for me to state why this is the case, only to point that we can strengthen our connection with Nature simply by being in the wilderness with the plants and animals...this will help us return the roots of our being...were we have to change our consciousness as living light beings towards our full potential as co-creators.

For instance...Its not enough to change our architecture from a concrete jungle to adobes...what animal in the wilderness will commune with us when we have the flesh of its brethren on our breathe.

Many things need to change and many will~

You are right though, we did have a beautiful relationship with wilderness creatures.
There are many tales of children adopted by wolf packs, and fables in Russia of how bears once were friendly, like dogs.

Everything is connected...our consciousness touches this planet in ways we cannot even guess at this point...and in a way we already are doing~

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Yes it sure would be wonderful to be able to pet a wild lion without fear of being mauled or eaten, or perhaps play with tiger cubs as momma tiger watches and purrs contentedly, but nature is such that these things will never take place, at least not in this side of Heaven. Most folk make the mistake of comparing animals to humans, and all too often suffer severe consequences as a result. People stop their cars so they can feed bears that have learned an easy way to obtain food. The problem is that many of these people will exit their vehicles in order to get close to the bear and have their picture taken. If they are giving the animal food at the same time, they may get away with it, but if that food runs out and the offerings cease, more than likely the bear will become aggressive and rip into the person who two minutes ago, was so sure the animal had become his or her best friend. Even though animals and humans share the same planet, they live in two entirely different worlds, and unless animals start thinking like us humans, it will always be this way. For a wild animal it's all about survival, and in their world your either predator or prey. Everything an animal does is done for a reason, without any concept of good or bad. For it to make a mistake is usually a death sentence. They don't know the concept of love or hate in the same way us humans do. Some species share a bond with their mate that will last a lifetime, but love has nothing to do with it. It's all about survival and continuation of the species. At least with wild animals a person will always know where they stand when dealing with them, unlike dealing with our fellow humans who are capable of loving each other, but are just as capable of killing just for the heck of it. Then there are the dog lovers out there who are the world's worst when it comes to interacting with them, and treating the animals as if they were their children! Well all I have to say about this is that I'm probably the world's worst! lol! My dogs ARE my kids as far as I'm concerned, and I spoil them just as much as they spoil me. I won't go any farther, as those who love dogs know exactly what I mean and how I feel!