Did Britain Die but No One Noticed?

I am posting this thread because I could find nothing on ATS and only one News source...
...and would appreciate informed comment about this issue.


December 1st, 2009 -
blogs.telegraph.co.uk...

"At midnight last night, the United Kingdom ceased to be a sovereign state.

We woke up in a different country today. Alright, it doesn’t look very different. The trees still seem black against the winter sun; the motorways continue to jam inexplicably; commuters carry on avoiding eye contact. But Britain is no longer a sovereign nation. At midnight last night, we ceased to be an independent state, bound by international treaties to other independent states, and became instead a subordinate unit within a European state.

Yes, a European state. Take a quick dekko at the definition set out in Article One of the1933 Montevideo Convention on the Rights and Duties of States: “The state as a person of international law should possess the following qualifications: (a) a permanent population; (b) a defined territory; (c) government; and (d) capacity to enter into relations with the other states.”

Until yesterday, the EU qualified on grounds (a), (b) and (c). Now it has ticked the final box. Under the Lisbon Treaty, which came into force today, it acquires “legal personality”, which gives it the right to sign accords and treat with other states. Nor is this right simply theoretical: the EU now has a foreign minister, a diplomatic corps (the European External Action Service) and 160 overseas embassies.

Until yesterday, the EU could not annex additional policy areas without a new treaty, which needed to be ratified by all its constituent nations. Now, it has the so-called “passerelle” clause, or self-amending mechanism. Parliament, in other words, no longer has the final say on extensions of EU jurisdiction. The EU derives its authority, not from its 27 members, but from its own foundational texts.

Until yesterday, Britain could simply walk out of the EU by abrogating the Treaty of Rome and repealing the 1972 European Communities Act. Henceforth, it will have to go through the secession procedure laid down in Lisbon. In other words – in the minds of Euro-lawyers, at any rate, if not of British constitutionalists – the EU gets to settle the terms on which its members are allowed to leave. Formal sovereignty has been shifted from the national capitals to Brussels.

It is appalling, demeaning, disgraceful that such a thing should have been done without popular consent, and in the absence of the referendum that all three parties had promised. “There’s no point in crying over spilt milk,” you might say. True. But there is every point in mopping it up." Daniel Hannan



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Hardly surprising with all the deflection going on around us in the media, Haiti, john terry and the MP scandal to name a few. All designed to keep people from seeing the real goings on in this country. Personally i cant wait to see the 3 MPs singing like canaries to sink all round them, I wonder what dirt will stick on this.

Yes mate, I thought the same last year when Ireland closed the deal.

The thing that disturbed me the most was that the irish people rejected
this so-called treaty by voting no, but they had to vote again and again
until the votes were FOR the treaty.

the worst part is that ONLY Ireland voted for or against it.
In the rest of europe people didn't even know anything about this because
britney had gone mad again and tiger woods did stuff to women etc.

It's so sad to see this development.

I think that they did this behind closed doors because they knew what
would happen if people knew about this in beforehand.

I recomend reading about the Lisbon Treaty to people unaware of it.

So now the British might get a taste of how the rest of the world felt up until 1948?

Poor dears. Maybe you should have read up on this "Karma" thing while you were in India, huh?

Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
So now the British might get a taste of how the rest of the world felt up until 1948?

Poor dears. Maybe you should have read up on this "Karma" thing while you were in India, huh?

hehe, good point there. spain and portugal are also part of it. so i guess
they are going to taste it too :>

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Its not called the NWO for nothing.
Welcome to the club.

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December 1, 2009 has now become one of the most important dates inl human history equal with 1492, when Western Europeans first discovered the Americas, 1517, when Martin Luther launched the Reformation, 1776, when the United States declared its independence, and other such historic moments which have seen the direction of our entire human race radically, and forever changed.

On this historic date, what Rome had failed to do by conquest for nearly 1,000 years, what the great Frankish King Charlemagne nearly achieved in 800 A.D., and Adolf Hitler failed utterly to accomplish in the 1940’s has now happened.

The people of Europe have now, and irrevocably, been joined together in a European Union that now makes them one of the most powerful Nations our World has ever known with a population of over 500 million and an economy producing over 30% of the World’s total gross domestic product.