Originally posted by openmindresearch
Atlantean conspiracies

LOL, yes, I know the guy who runs that site, Eric Dubay; he's on my msn messenger. I have never shown him my works on Atlantean Democracy though, so I am not sure what he would think of them as ideas for an ideal form of government. I'm not sure that he thinks there ever could be such a thing as an "ideal governmnet;" it might seem like an oxymoron to him. I've spoken to him once or twice on MSN, but I doubt he'd remember me. He runs a podcast show off his site too, which is a very good program I've heard. I can definitely vouch for the sincerity of Eric's info and motives. He's a good guy. He also has his work (the "Atlantean Conspiracy" in pieces) on scribd as a free download ebook. He is an ardent researcher with a wide knowledge base and a strong grasp of all sides. He presents his information simply and succinctly, and I'd dare to say he's a more easy to read author than me. Yeah, I would definitely recommend his site to everyone on ATS. It's a great site, Eric Dubay is a good guy, and he brings up-to-date facts in good faith. Definitely a good find.

PEACE.
- Jon

to any moderator who reads this::

would it be possible to transfer this thread from the current location in "secret societies" under "conspiracies" to "political idealogies" under "above politics"?

I would have posted it there initially, but I am a n00b to the forums.

Thanks, peace, Jon.

okay well, now that this thread is in a more appropriate forum (thanks mods!) and now that this topic is not being subverted by personal attacks on me by trolls (thanks admins!), let's try again to discuss this topic:

"What Is Atlantean Democracy?"

The Pythagorean Order of Death (POD) proposes the following format for society under the title of "Atlantean Democracy":

Education System

1=0 degree: from birth until 9 months of age, citizens are free. At 9 months after birth, they are given the right to vote, reserved until they choose to use it. From 9 months old, when the right to vote is issued, until the child chooses to first use their right to vote, the child participates in a voluntary educational system that teaches the "Law of One." If the right to vote is never used, the person remains a citizen, with the right to use the economic system (which I will discuss in a moment), however they never progress beyond this zero degree in the POD's "Atlantean" social system.

2=A,B&C degrees: the equivalent of the Blue Masonic Lodge initiation rituals are given in the POD10.pdf, and are four in total, an additional one being given before initiation begins. These ceremonies are meant to be conducted in 4 differently styled "lodges," one for each of the four elemental forces. Thus the first initiation ritual is performed in the lodge of Earth, the second in the lodge of Water, the third in Air, the fourth Fire. Again, these degrees are optional, initiation is free of charge, and the right to vote in elections bestowed by undertaking these degrees to become an "Atlantean" citizen is only psychic in nature. The rituals of these degrees are styled after historical Egyptian personages (Imhotep, PtaHotep) and mixed with Lovecraftian fictions (NyarlaHotep) to teach a moral lesson (good historical literalism vs. evil fiction).

Political Parites

3-7 degrees: there are 5 political parties in "Atlantean Democracy." They are, currently, in chronological order:

1) Essene Zealot: the York rite, considered more "Christian" in symbolism and shorter of the twin "ladders" of Masonry to ascend into secular knight-hood. The Christian symbols of the past aeon, the fish of Pisces, etc. are endangered now as the intervening aeon is ending, and the "new world order" beginning. Because these 5 political parties measure chronologically across a single aeon, the symbols at the beginning are invariably replaced by other symbols in the end, and the whole system will shift down one gear.

2) Knight Zion: The Scottish rite is considered more secular in symbolism and the longer method of achieving the benefits of progression beyond the Blue Lodge into the elections and mysteries of FreeMasonry. The Scottish Rite includes a "philosophical" set of rituals as well as the "chivalric" set of York. The origin of these rites is with the Rosicrucians following John Dee in the 16th century. The "philosophical" degrees of Scottish rite Masonry are Enochian, and thus "Atlantean," since Enoch reigned before the deluge.

3) Regal Rosicrucians: The "philosophical" degrees of Scottish Rite Masonry relate a historical myth about the Temple Builders under Solomon discovering the tomb of Enoch. This is then reflected in the later "chivalric" lessons of the Scottish rite in the moral of the Knights Templar discovering Solomon's treasury beneath the Temple Mount. The "Rosicrucian" political party's role in "Atlantean" society is as a travelling ambassador from one lodge to another.

4) Perfected Illuminati: the administrative degrees of Scottish rite, and the uppermost offices of the York knights, are both basically just office jobs of clerical book-keeping. The IO, designed by Weishaupt, was meant to infiltrate the administration of Masonry in order to divert its energies to Weishaupt's cause. However, nowadays, we exist between the IO of yesterday and the NWO of tomorrow. Therefore, even the agenda of the highest ranking Masons is secondary to the orders coming down to them from the biggest cult in power now. This fulfills the Rosicrucian dictum: "the Pope is the anti-christ" by placing that figure-head position at the bottom of the figurative "pyramid."

5) Bohemian Camp: The fastest growing new religion is Thelema, as dictated by Aleister Crowley. Its "new age" pagan idolatry has introduced astrologers into the white house, and the highest ranking members of the IO's US cults (Skull and Bones, the CIA, etc.) have replaced the rightful leaders of the land with their own nefarious dogs of war by assassinations and blackmail. The Bilderbergers under Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands worship Lilith at Bohemian Grove as a means of casting off the chains of Christianity, and ushering in a new aeon they, themselves, cannot even begin to understand.

Now, you may be looking at these 5 "political parties" in "Atlantean Democracy" and thinking, these groups exist now, and thus "Atlantean Democracy" as it can be fully perfected is already being practised now, but this would be a wrong assessment. The difference between an ideal "Atlantean Democracy" as invisioned by the POD and what exists now is the harnessing of mental "Zero-Point Energy" (ZPE), ie. the use of global ESP as a source of limitless free energy.

Lemurian Religion

8 - 10 degrees: the "church" of the ideal "Atlantean" society fills the same role as currently filled by banks. Mental energy can be stored individually, and harnessed collectively, through a system of data-storage nodes in a non-centralised network. The people working this system would be priest-bankers because they would allot the amount of mental-energy one would be able to deposit or withdraw from the whole social system. The POD envisions a three tiered strata system for these "quasi-religious" degrees, from "local priest" to the "notional Pope," who is one of the 7 "chief executives" in "Atlantean Democracy."

Atlantean Democracy

11 - 13 degrees: the "state" aspect of the "Atlantean" society envisioned by the POD also has three pillars, however these are considered all equal in authority, and the members of the smaller groups belong also to the larger groups. These are the 7 "chief executives" (including the "Pope" ), the 13 members of a Grand Jury, and the 23 members of the "Atlantean Senate."

These are the basic levels of society in "Atlantean Democracy" as envisioned by the POD. I am here to answer questions. PEACE. - Jon