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US Abu Ghraib abuse known about for over 30 years

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posted on May, 28 2004 @ 11:28 AM
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You're prepared to flame, but read the content before responding to the subject.

A study done at Stanford University in 1971 showed that the Abu Ghraib scenario wasn't only possible, but likely. All of you people interested in psych and sociocology are probably aware of this study, but for those of you who aren't, it took 6 days for 24 college students to get to the point our MPs did in Abu Ghraib. 6 days for people tested psychologically to ensure they were "normal".



Two days into the good doctor's experiment, the normal, adjusted students were playing their prison roles with frightening reality. The "prisoners," fed up with having roll calls in the middle of the night, rebelled by pushing their beds against their cell bars and refusing to come out. The "guards" called in reinforcements, pulled the prisoners from their cells, striped them naked, and proceeded to humiliate and abuse them for hours. To further reinforce their power, the guards took away bathroom privileges and forced prisoners to urinate and defecate in buckets inside their cells, and to later clean the mess out with their bare hands. It got worse — so bad that Zimbardo halted the planned two-week study after only six days.


www.mtv.com...

So before you assume orders were given to do what the MPs did, from as high up as Rummy, at least aknowlege that this same situation happened in a psych experiment 33 years ago.

[Edited on 5-28-2004 by junglejake]




posted on May, 28 2004 @ 01:08 PM
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This was done on students who had not been given training about the geneva convention and things.
This is just testing a person's natural ability to come into a role if they are, literally, God of someone else's universe



posted on May, 28 2004 @ 01:12 PM
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That's absloutly right browha. However, how old were these kids who were in charge of the prisoners? Just because you're trained doesn't mean you'll do right. Why do militaries want the vets to fight tough battles instead of people right out of training? They all had the same training, but the vets have real world experience in self restraint and have an idea of how they're going to react.

How many of these MPs have been prison guards in very slightly monitored prisons before Iraq? They were green, and the Iraqi prisoners paid for it.



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