Do aliens need god?, page 1
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Topic started on 5-2-2010 @ 11:17 AM by andre18
To presume we need god is to presume we need something greater then ourselves in order to live as a society. But take into account that aliens are out there and don't have any god. By the possibility that we make contact, is converting necessary? I would think not, by the very fact that they're able to achieve the same level of technology as us without the need for a god figure, i'm sure they wouldn't need our god to go any further in their evolution. So why then should we need our own belief in god if they didn't?

It would mean the surrender of religion after first contact. I would expect. And sure, there would be the Abrahamic religions attempting to reinterpret their bibles to encompass aliens but for how long would that last.

Surely aliens don't need our Allah, Yahweh and Elohim. God's that told us not the aliens to love them. But of course this brings up many religious questions - are all aliens sinners? do they need Christ, will Allah smile upon them? If they don't need Christ, why then should we? Such questions presume an answer to our own belief in god, that the simple nature of the question of whether or not aliens need god also questions if we ourselves need god.

Such is the existence of god tested by the very idea of an outside influence. To really consider aliens needing or even wanting a god, would they choose or would we choose for them - which god should it be? You would expect the very question to cause even more problems - if aliens chose one god over another would that give more credibility to that one religion then to others that even aliens chose it?

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reply posted on 5-2-2010 @ 11:57 AM by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by andre18



I think; If what we know about God is remotely true, That he created the Heaven and Earth, then he in fact created Aliens.

Nowhere in the bible does it give a timeline that some Religions put on the Earth between 6-10000 years old. When in fact the 6-10,000 years comes from the time of Adam to present. The bible says god create the Universe in 6 days and on the seventh he rested. He did not create Adam day 6 or even day 7, So there in theory is a very large time gap between day 7 and Adam.

It should also be noted That if God is the creator of everything in the Universe; God does not Judge time as we do, Heck time to God may not exist. So we as Humans attempt to interrupt it as such but we cannot. Day 8 is not mentioned in the bible, and we do not know exactly how long a day is to God; A day to him could be Hundreds of millions of Earth Years, which is why we find Dinosaur bones, and we can Carbon Date things.

So after that rambling Yes if God created the Universe then he very much did create Aliens.





www.bibleontheweb.com...



EDIT TO ADD THIS: In the show Star Trek the Federation has a policy of no contact with non space faring species, It is very much possible that these other Alien Races view as the same way we view Monkeys and Ants. They will not make contact with us because we are to primitive, while There are other races, no one from our lifetimes will ever see one because we lack the ability to travel in near space let alone deep space so don’t get your hopes of for disclosure or the Klingons decloaking over DC. Unless we develop warp speed, or hyper drive.


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reply posted on 5-2-2010 @ 12:00 PM by metalholic
reply to post by poedxsoldiervet



and i would say if there is a god it is the sun! you cant live without it nothing grows without it and if it dies we die and everything else and if there is a satan its the black hole because what is opposite of the sun? see my point! also stars created everything all the atoms and minerals and what not thats on this earth came from a star!


reply posted on 5-2-2010 @ 12:03 PM by Romans 10:9
Originally posted by poedxsoldiervet
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post by andre18



I think; If what we know about God is remotely true, That he created the Heaven and Earth, then he in fact created Aliens.

Nowhere in the bible does it give a timeline that some Relgions put on the Earth between 6-10000 years old. When in fact the 6-10,000 years comes from the time of Adam to present. The bible says god create the Universe in 6 days and on the seventh he rested. He did not create Adam day 6 or even day 7, So there in theory is a very large time gap between day 7 and Adam.

It should also be noted That if God is the creator of everything in the Universe; God does not Judge time as we do, Heck time to God may not exist. So we as Humans attempt to interrupt it as such but we cannot. Day 8 is not mentioned in the bible, and we do not know exactly how long a day is to God; A day to him could be Hundred of millions of Earth Years, which is why we find Dinosaur bones, and we can Carbon Date things.

So after that rambiling Yes if God created the Universe then he very much did create Aliens.





www.bibleontheweb.com...


Read any Gerald Schroeder stuff? It's great.


reply posted on 5-2-2010 @ 12:04 PM by redoubt
reply to post by andre18




Do aliens need god?


If you presume that they do, or they don't, you are walking on the thin ice of a presumption.

Truth is that most of us have never met an EBE nor spoken at length regarding views to deity or creation of the universe.

To assume anything is to place one's self on that thin ice and in danger of slipping into the ice cold waters of grunt assumptions.



reply posted on 5-2-2010 @ 12:19 PM by metalholic
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i'm close minded what proves this theory? you cant say the last post! because that was all sarcasim! maybe you are pointing out flaws that you think are around you but are actually within you! what proves my theory the last post which i'am replying to!

and i can prove that christians thought in essence the way i described!


reply posted on 5-2-2010 @ 12:25 PM by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by metalholic



Theroies are just that theroies we dont have enough evidence to make it a fact, which would make it.... a theroy.


reply posted on 5-2-2010 @ 12:37 PM by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by sperical123



Please enlighten us on your extensive knowledge of ET's religious beliefs.
I am eager to hear how you have contacted and talked to said ETs.



reply posted on 5-2-2010 @ 12:50 PM by metalholic
reply to post by poedxsoldiervet



you pointed fingers saying i have a icy heart and proclaiming gods judgement on me saying i was close minded but get me if i'm wrong didnt you make a judgement first and that judgement was based on one post hmm seems a little hypocritical but you never said you was a saint!


reply posted on 5-2-2010 @ 01:53 PM by Taupin Desciple
reply to post by tungus



If aliens are capable of coming to our planet from god-knows where, then in that regard they are much more intelectually advanced than we are. To ask if they "need" god is to assume they believe in one.

To ask if they "need" god is a very vague question, so I wouldn't hold your breath for a definitive answer.

IMO though, No , they don't. They are god. They seeded this planet, and like any other good gardener, they come back to their garden periodically to check on how it's growing.

Personally, I'm waiting for harvest time


reply posted on 5-2-2010 @ 02:04 PM by poedxsoldiervet
reply to post by metalholic



No I did not proclaim gods Judgement on you, your reading to much into, I did however say you have an Icy heart from this thread and previous threads, where I have read your postings.

But hey Who am I to judge, when it is possible my heart is as Icy as words
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