Tea party opening speaker suggests blacks be kept from voting, page 1
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Topic started on 5-2-2010 @ 09:22 AM by whaaa
rawstory.com...

The opening night speaker at the Tea Party convention suggested a return to a "literacy test" to protect America from presidents like Obama -- a segregation-era method employed by southern US states to keep blacks from voting.

In his speech Thursday to attendees, former Republican congressman Tom Tancredo invoked the loaded pre-civil rights era buzzword, saying that President Barack Obama was elected because "we do not have a civics, literacy test before people can vote in this country."

Southern states used literacy tests as part of an effort to deny suffrage to African American voters prior to Johnson-era civil rights laws.


As long as a person pays taxes, either sales or income taxed and is a legal citizen; they should have a right to vote. Their taxes pay the salaries of elected officials and people should have a right to elect who represents them regardless of whether they are literate or not.

I expect Tom Tancredo to be backing away from this statement and saying it was taken out of context. Yeah right.....

Prior to passage of the federal Voting Rights Act in 1965, Southern (and some Western) states maintained elaborate voter registration procedures whose primary purpose was to deny the vote to those who were not white," a website for civil rights veterans explains. "In the South, this process was often called the 'literacy test.' In fact, it was much more than a simple test, it was an entire complex system devoted to denying African-Americans (and in some regions, Latinos) the right to vote."

"Because the Freedom Movement was running "Citizenship Schools" to help people learn how to fill out the forms and pass the test, Alabama changed the test 4 times in less than two years (1964-1965)," the site adds. "At the time of the Selma Voting Rights campaign there were actually 100 different tests in use across the state. In theory, each applicant was supposed to be given one at random from a big loose-leaf binder. In real life, some individual tests were easier than others and the registrar made sure that Black applicants got the hardest ones."


Will this statement by Tom Tancredo help or hurt the TPM.

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reply posted on 5-2-2010 @ 09:30 AM by Sean48
reply to post by whaaa



There's a Elephant in the room, people are talking about the drapes, carpet.

There were 2 choices in a 2 party system.

The Electorate were so pissed at the Repub's that the Dem's could have had

Big Bird from Sesame Street on the ticket , and the Bird would have won.

It's not the Electorate who are at fault, It's the 2 party system.



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reply posted on 5-2-2010 @ 09:54 AM by octotom
reply to post by Aggie Man



Um, excuse me, could you please remind me of the US's official language...oh, that's right, we don't have one

But to be a citizen, which one has to be in order to vote, you must be able to speak basic English.

From the US Citizenship and Immigration Service:

General Eligibility Requirements for U.S. Citizenship

To apply for U.S. citizenship, applicants must:

Be at least 18 years old at the time of filing the Application for Naturalization, Form N-400
Have been lawfully admitted to the United States
Have resided as a permanent resident in the United States for at least 5 years or 3 years if you meet all eligibility requirements to file as a spouse of a U.S. citizen
Have demonstrated continuous permanent residence
Have demonstrated physical presence
Have lived for 3 months in the USCIS district or state where the Application for Naturalization, Form N-400 is filed
Demonstrate good moral character
Show an attachment to the U.S. Constitution
Be able to read, write, speak, and understand basic English
Demonstrate a knowledge of U.S. civics (history and government)
Take the oath of allegiance to the United States


Sadly, there are people in the United States who are citizens, who are citizens due to jus soli, who wouldn't be able to be naturalized, because they can't speak English. So, when Tancredo says that, "there are people who voted Obama in who can't even spell 'vote'," he's simply saying the truth.


reply posted on 5-2-2010 @ 10:00 AM by octotom
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So, where is Tancredo quoted as saying that he wants to implement a test before someone can vote so that blacks can't vote? Or, if the author of this article just linking Tancredo's idea (which seems that it would go for everyone) to the old southern practice because they're similar ideas?

To be honest, a simple test that everyone would have to take to be allowed to vote really doesn't seem like that bad of an idea. Especially with American's wanning interest in government and politics. If someone can't pass a test that where you'd have to answer how many branches of government there are or what the two houses of Congress are, maybe it'd be better for them to brush up a little bit before they just go and cast their vote for the guy that promised to give them free ice-cream Tuesdays if he wins.


reply posted on 5-2-2010 @ 10:03 AM by octotom
reply to post by Aggie Man



To be fair, certainly there were people that voted for McCain/Palin that couldn't speak English or spell the word "vote" as well.

Oh, I agree. I didn't mean to make it seems like it wasn't the case for the other side, too.

EDIT: In addition, if they couldn't read....then wouldn't it have been around 50/50 as to whether they voted R or D?

Not necessarily. All it would take would be one person that would be able to understand English to tell their non-English speaking friends that Politician X is going to kick them out of the country and that they should vote for Politician Y instead and all they'd have to do is look for a name on the ballot. Know what I mean?

If though, a person lived in a hole for four years and just came out on election day, they of course, barring third parties, it would be a fifty-fifty chance that they'd vote for a Republican or Democrat.


reply posted on 5-2-2010 @ 10:06 AM by whaaa
reply to post by octotom



You want to restrict a persons right to vote even if he is a citizen and pays taxes but can't read well.....People can get voting info from many places besides the printed word, like TV or radio. Your idea is elitist BS.

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