I have a relative that worked for the Bureau of labor Statistics. Even she said the stats don't account for underemployed, or part time being counted as full time.

The books are cooked. No one but the Dems believe that drivel that comes out of Washington. Things are bad all over. there are a few places like North Dakota, where there is good employment, but places like that are few and far between.

Folks, the hard times are just getting started good. Batten down the hatches, if you have any left. it's going to be a rough ride. I believe where stated unemployment is 12%, it is more likely 20%.

Untill the government cuts taxes, and lets people and small businesses grow, so they can hire people, we are screwed. I don't see any changes real soon. Osama will try to spend his way out of depression. it's not going to woprk. For what he is spending on the stimulus, he could have given every American $100,000.

I hope you Osama lovers got the change you wanted..

Spokane. Wa here. Its really bad here. I was reading a report the other day saying that Spokane's economy will take 3 years longer to recover than other cities. I have friends that have master degrees and that are working at fast food joins. Its terrible right now.

If you think for one minute that the unemployment has dropped to 9.8% dream

on the government can manipulate any statistic they want and this stat does not

take into consideration people that have given up looking for jobs.


Here is a stat that you will not see on the nightly news in Lee County Florida 1

in 4 are delinquent on their mortgage payments yes that is a 25% delinquency

rate. The foreclosure rate in Lee County S.W. Florida is one of the highest in the

nation with it being almost 14% with the national average supposedly at 3.8%.


Do you believe the silver tongued politicians that will tell you anything to get

elected or do you believe the real facts and stats. New jobless claims are still

climbing to an incredible 480,000 this last week as layoffs still continue and

jobs are still very scarce to find throughout the U.S. ^Y^


[edit on 7-2-2010 by amari]

Pretty bad here in SoCal.

No one I know has a real full-time job. Everyone is either part-time, spot-work, or is unemployed. We have lost lots of restuarants, thrift stores(!), music stores, computer stores, mostly mom& pops.

Wal-Marts, Von's, and Albertson's have all cut hours and people. The local albertson's just had one disgruntled employee turn off the coolers on the way out the door on their last night, made a mess, apparently. The next day all the frozen stuff, chilled stuff and meats were on sale; glad my brother and I overheard the reason being discussed the night before by two employees.

Things are harsh and getting harsher: a lot of folks I know will lose their extended unemployment bennies in a month or so, and most don't know what they'll do after that. Everyone's tapped out their eligibility for the various forms of aid, shelters are full...at the city, county, and state levels, everyone's pretty much broke, and their solution is to cut social services, as if that would make anything better.

I don't see anything improving anytime in the forseeable future, a cascading systemic collapse is much more likely now.

To give you a different perspective let me explain what is happening at my department. We are supposed to have 120 uniform officers(not including detectives), this includes Animal Control and School Resource Officers, currently we have 62 and 6 detectives(we are supposed to have 12 detectives). Starting pay for my department is $32,000(we used to get a .02% raise too) we are going to have to cut down to $29,000 a year and no overtime pay. This wouldn't be as big as a problem if it had happened 1-2 years ago but there are almost no extra duty assignments coming in(Concerts, Event Security, Weekend Patrol at the Mall, etc.) to help officer make a little extra money. We have to pay for a lot of our own equipment now I could give you a list on that but it is easier just to say I had to purchase $900 of my own equipment last year.


As for you mentioning pawnshops in the initial post, one of my good friends just opened a pawnshop in December. He has been turning an enormous profit because of the other pawnshops being overstocked and not accepting inventory they already have. For instance someone brought in a 25" TV in and sold it for $8 because none of the pawnshops had room for it, he then turned around and sold it an hour later for $30. The other pawnshops aren't able to sell their TV's so cheap because they paid $25-40 for the ones they bought. I am actually trying to talk my friend into letting me work the graveyard shift(6pm-2am) on my days off.


Secure

Give it time. It's a bit early to compare GD-I to GD-II. Compare the progress:

1929 was 5.0%, 2008 at 5.8%
1930 was 9.5%, 2009 at 9.3%
1931 was 15%, 2010 is .... ?
1932 was 18%, 2011 is ...?
1933 was 23%, 2012 is ...?

We're talking U-3 to U-3 numbers. The U-6 numbers during GD-I was nearly double U-3.

Image below from wikipedia



[edit on 8-2-2010 by Dbriefed]

I live in Volusia county Florida. We are a tourist town for the most part with Daytona Beach North of where I live and businesses are closing everywhere and Dr.Offices are shutting down too. The other big income of this area are the boat manufacturing plants like Boston Whaler and they all laid off 80 to 90% of their employees and the ones who are still working are lucky to get 30 hours a week. I personally have worked there in the past and have been trying to go to work back there or anywhere . I am certified in HVAC or air conditioning refrigeration and heating and have been unemployed for over a year. I maybe get a under the table job a month and my lousy 165.00 a week unemployment is not cutting it so I now live with friends who are in the same boat. I wish I could find a job. Just not anything around....

Originally posted by apacheman
Pretty bad here in SoCal.

No one I know has a real full-time job. Everyone is either part-time, spot-work, or is unemployed. We have lost lots of restuarants, thrift stores(!), music stores, computer stores, mostly mom& pops.

Wal-Marts, Von's, and Albertson's have all cut hours and people. The local albertson's just had one disgruntled employee turn off the coolers on the way out the door on their last night, made a mess, apparently. The next day all the frozen stuff, chilled stuff and meats were on sale; glad my brother and I overheard the reason being discussed the night before by two employees.

Things are harsh and getting harsher: a lot of folks I know will lose their extended unemployment bennies in a month or so, and most don't know what they'll do after that. Everyone's tapped out their eligibility for the various forms of aid, shelters are full...at the city, county, and state levels, everyone's pretty much broke, and their solution is to cut social services, as if that would make anything better.

I don't see anything improving anytime in the forseeable future, a cascading systemic collapse is much more likely now.

But the federal government has increased the number of employees. I guess that's the change we were hearing about. Maybe Osama could get rid of a few czars, and make some room for a couple new hires. It's only going to get worse, but the government will tell you it's better. Sooner or later, the reality will be undeniable. people already know what they see in everyday real life doesn't match up will the crap the Whitehouse is spewing.

it's kind of scary to know it's going to get much worse. Brother, can you spare a dime???