How do you the prof is correct and just not off his rocker? Second, I did find it interesting that the FBI "had been aware" of Hall's rant. Are they always notified when one person accuses another of working for the FBI? And who notified them? Maybe the student called in and said he'd been outed in front of a class full of people.

"I have never been an informant for the FBI." Could be true, have you been an agent?

I had a prof followed by the FBI for communist activity, and he was a big commie he'd tell ya that in the first 2 minutes of a conversation it was no secret. Yet they insisted on following him bc of his "secret". I know my prof was jumped after being a guest speaker, they said it was two students, but no one recognized the supposed the students and our classes were small so you did know everyone. I always that was fbi related as well.

Originally posted by searching4truth
How do you the prof is correct and just not off his rocker? Second, I did find it interesting that the FBI "had been aware" of Hall's rant. Are they always notified when one person accuses another of working for the FBI? And who notified them? Maybe the student called in and said he'd been outed in front of a class full of people.

"I have never been an informant for the FBI." Could be true, have you been an agent?

I had a prof followed by the FBI for communist activity, and he was a big commie he'd tell ya that in the first 2 minutes of a conversation it was no secret. Yet they insisted on following him bc of his "secret". I know my prof was jumped after being a guest speaker, they said it was two students, but no one recognized the supposed the students and our classes were small so you did know everyone. I always that was fbi related as well.

1)The Prof identified specific actions, and claims to have evidence of the 'student' in question attempting to recruit and organize a violent protest, including teaching people how to make molative coctails in 69 different ways.

2)There was no rant. It was a calm, informative approach.

3)I dont beliieve he works for the FBI. FBI agents tend to be smarter than going around openly recruiting.

4)This is the second time this has happened to the prof.

5)There will supposedly be 2 years worth of investigation released by Hall before this is over. A 2 year investigation tells me that he found enough to keep investigating.

I smell a rat. It does seem that the Professor is being discredited.

And what kind of an economics class is this ? One that ex-snipers
must attend . . for what purpose ?

The thing that bothers me is that the professor had been
investigating the student for two years ? Why ?

Everything so close to Vancouver nowadays worries me.

Originally posted by SIEGE
I smell a rat. It does seem that the Professor is being discredited.

And what kind of an economics class is this ? One that ex-snipers
must attend . . for what purpose ?

The thing that bothers me is that the professor had been
investigating the student for two years ? Why ?

Everything so close to Vancouver nowadays worries me.

1)Comparative economics, and it is well-known that Prof Hall is pro-marxist.
2)The student approached the teacher nearly 2 years ago to try and recruit his property as a base, and to use his office as a 'headquarters'.

When i was told about this from my friend that was in the class the night it happened, the first thought that came to mind was "somethings going to happen in portland"

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

1)The Prof identified specific actions, and claims to have evidence of the 'student' in question attempting to recruit and organize a violent protest, including teaching people how to make molative coctails in 69 different ways.

2)There was no rant. It was a calm, informative approach.

3)I dont beliieve he works for the FBI. FBI agents tend to be smarter than going around openly recruiting.

4)This is the second time this has happened to the prof.

5)There will supposedly be 2 years worth of investigation released by Hall before this is over. A 2 year investigation tells me that he found enough to keep investigating.

I saw that the article stated that once the investigation is complete he will be teaching, but that he is not suspended. I'm confused as to how that lines up with a 2 year investigation, I didn't read that. So, is there a militia movement in Portland? So is he on some other type of leave? It's sad that he has to stay at other's homes during this time. Do you who this guy was then (the supposed fbi or not guy)? What was he recruiting for?

1. I have many FBI friends, and they are investigators. Nothing more, nothing less. The furthest possible extent of a conspiracy connected to the FBI would be a lack of investigation (9/11, Kennedy, etc.). FBI agents are not recruiting or going anywhere incognito, or planning any violence, unless the said violence is a secret hope that some scumbag resists arrest!

2. Universities are indeed full of foreign nationals, fringe groups, and recruiters of all kinds. In my 10 years at this university I have personally witnessed people being recruited to do violence, sex, pornography, foreign service, CIA, military, corporate espionage, and probably 100 other things that I have already forgotten about!

3. The professor is an idiot for handling something this way. Either he has legitimate concerns which should have been addressed with the FBI, NSA, Homeland Security, his University Police force, and the student in a private setting........or........he is a nutjob that thinks the FBI is some secret front for foreign operatives seeking to do harm in his classroom, in which case he should have addressed it with his University Police force, the local news, and the student in a private setting.

The University Police force is entirely motivated by protecting their University. They would investigate and they would not be influenced by a nefarious top secret international plan.

If the other students had been called to action and pounced and killed this kid in fear of their own lives, they would have been justified, and the Professor would be in prison!

If this public display kills this kids academic career, he will probably wind up with an honorary degree and an apology from the University, so the professor's intentions would have entirely backfired!

All in all, this seems to be a very interesting story and I look forward to seeing it play out, but the Professor certainly acted inappropriately, regardless if his suspicions are well-founded or not.

[edit on 4-2-2010 by getreadyalready]

Originally posted by searching4truth

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

1)The Prof identified specific actions, and claims to have evidence of the 'student' in question attempting to recruit and organize a violent protest, including teaching people how to make molative coctails in 69 different ways.

2)There was no rant. It was a calm, informative approach.

3)I dont beliieve he works for the FBI. FBI agents tend to be smarter than going around openly recruiting.

4)This is the second time this has happened to the prof.

5)There will supposedly be 2 years worth of investigation released by Hall before this is over. A 2 year investigation tells me that he found enough to keep investigating.

I saw that the article stated that once the investigation is complete he will be teaching, but that he is not suspended. I'm confused as to how that lines up with a 2 year investigation, I didn't read that. So, is there a militia movement in Portland? So is he on some other type of leave? It's sad that he has to stay at other's homes during this time. Do you who this guy was then (the supposed fbi or not guy)? What was he recruiting for?

1)He is removed from teaching indefinitely, bt not suspended.

2)The 2 year investigation is new info. not sure yet what it will say.

3)There is a bit of militia in Portland, but this is something different.

4)As of yet, I do not have any other info on the 'student', other than that he is Ex-mossad, brags about weapons knowledge, and has tried to recruit.

Best guess is that he works for a contractor.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
1. I have many FBI friends, and they are investigators. Nothing more, nothing less. The furthest possible extent of a conspiracy connected to the FBI would be a lack of investigation (9/11, Kennedy, etc.). FBI agents are not recruiting or going anywhere incognito, or planning any violence, unless the said violence is a secret hope that some scumbag resists arrest!

2. Universities are indeed full of foreign nationals, fringe groups, and recruiters of all kinds. In my 10 years at this university I have personally witnessed people being recruited to do violence, sex, pornography, foreign service, CIA, military, corporate espionage, and probably 100 other things that I have already forgotten about!

3. The professor is an idiot for handling something this way. Either he has legitimate concerns which should have been addressed with the FBI, NSA, Homeland Security, his University Police force, and the student in a private setting........or........he is a nutjob that thinks the FBI is some secret front for foreign operatives seeking to do harm in his classroom, in which case he should have addressed it with his University Police force, the local news, and the student in a private setting.

The University Police force is entirely motivated by protecting their University. They would investigate and they would not be influenced by an nefarious top secret plan.

If the other students had been called to action and pounced and killed this kid in fear of their own lives, they would have been justified, and the Professor would be in prison!

If this public display kills this kids academic career, he will probably wind up with an honarary degree and an apology from the University, so the professor's intentions would have entirely backfired!

All in all, this seems to be a very interesting story and I look forward to seeing it play out, but the Professor certainly acted inappropriately, regardless if his suspicions are well-founded or not.

1) Again, I and most involved do not believe him to be FBI.
2)The reason the Prof handled it as he did was so that there would be at least SOME public knowledge of the event. The man is scared for his life, and wanted witnesses.
3)You ought to meet Prof Hall, before you claim him to be a nutjob. Anyone who has met him knows him to be a brilliant, well informed man.
4)The Prof stated he brought this to public view because the 'student' in question(who was not registered at the school initially) had moved from trying to recruit him(the prof) to trying to recruit students, which was, in his words, "over the line".

Can one be ex-Mossad?

As a side note: When I was an undergrad. (some years ago) I had classes with many Israeli students. It's a large population on campus and not unusual really. In fact, many were here on education deferment and still had to return to complete their commitments for required military service, back in Israel.

That really doesn't have anything to do with this thread, other than to point out that there is indeed a large population in the city and on campus.

As for the rumors of the Mossad/Econ. Dept. connection - I heard them as well.

Originally posted by LadySkadi
Can one be ex-Mossad?

As a side note: When I was an undergrad. (some years ago) I had classes with many Israeli students. It's a large population on campus and not unusual really. In fact, many were here on education deferment and still had to return to complete their commitments for required military service, back in Israel.

That really doesn't have anything to do with this thread, other than to point out that there is indeed a large population in the city and on campus.

As for the rumors of the Mossad/Econ. Dept. connection - I heard them as well.

Great point, and i probably should point out that portland is, for whatever reason, a ppopular place to live for Israelis as well as middle-easterners in general.

Not to sound too paranoid, but dude that sounds messed up big time.

I would get out of Portland. Just a hunch.

You remember there has been all kinds of stuff that has gone down there in that city.

I would head for the hills now before something really messed up starts happening.

No offense or anything don't mean to scare you.

But I personally, would be getting the hell out of Portland tonight. I am just expressing my fears about something happening there.

Portland is a top 5 terrorist target, IMHO. *That includes government false flags*

This story you told me, sounds extremely in line my fears also. Just think about it for a bit. It is too dangerous with those types of people around.

Originally posted by muzzleflash
Not to sound too paranoid, but dude that sounds messed up big time.

I would get out of Portland. Just a hunch.

You remember there has been all kinds of stuff that has gone down there in that city.

I would head for the hills now before something really messed up starts happening.

No offense or anything don't mean to scare you.

But I personally, would be getting the hell out of Portland tonight. I am just expressing my fears about something happening there.

Portland is a top 5 terrorist target, IMHO. *That includes government false flags*

This story you told me, sounds extremely in line my fears also. Just think about it for a bit. It is too dangerous with those types of people around.

Oh, trust me, I have my plan. I have had it since before this, and I will keep it in place.

I too, think Portland is going to have a major event soon.

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
What the article doesnt tell you is that Professor Hall has been doing a two-year long investigation on said student, based on the students attempts to recruit, plan, and carry out violence in Portland.

The article also fails to mention that the student in question is an admitted former sniper for the Mossad.

Or that the Prof has been removed from campus, and is staying with friends because he is in fear for his life.

They also fail to mention the militants that have entered the campus since the incident took place.

Wow, then it's a good thing you personally know someone who was involved with it, or we wouldn't hear THAT aspect of it at all, I'm sure.

Originally posted by getreadyalready
The University Police force is entirely motivated by protecting their University. They would investigate and they would not be influenced by a nefarious top secret international plan.

I wouldn't be so sure. A lot of local agencies, when they hear of something like FBI or some other federal involvement, they won't want to step into it at all, even if they have legal right to call them out for illegal activity. What power are campus police going to have to detain FBI agents against the FBI's will, for example?