Have you Ever Tried to Disappear?, page 2
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reply posted on 8-2-2010 @ 09:35 AM by seagull
reply to post by schrodingers dog



It's done on a fairly regular basis, S. All you have to do is be willing to forego all these wonderful 'net devises.

If I wander up into the farback of the mountains, and take the time to cover my head to avoid satellites, assuming anyone cares enough to look for me with that sort of stuff, I'm fairly certain I could do it if I had to.

But...

I'm much too fond of my comforts to do anything remotely like that...


reply posted on 8-2-2010 @ 09:47 PM by Daniel Moszkowicz
The subject of a person "disappearing" - often when being pursued by government agents or an evil rival - has been a celebrated theme in our pop-culture society; both in literature and on our movie screens.

New identies, present the need for forgeries such as new passports and driver licences, and this is usually the first step needed for the protagonist in the story to assume his alter-identity, before departing for some place where the chances of being found by the pursuiters is significantly limited.

Equipped with the survivalist mentality and skills, and having set-out for the wilderness, there can be no doubt that the person wanting to disappear can do so here - in this environment - most effectively. The wilderness has an absence of a large amount of people, and an absence of effective and common forms of technology. Mobile phones usually won't work and news broadcasts are limited to the humble radio by the few carrying such portable devices.

A person with the necessary skills to survive in the wilderness could easily avoid most - if not all - of the relatively small amount of people in such an area, for the game changes to the more rudimentary abilities of covering tracks successfully, and observing those things in the environment which don't belong or manifest as a clear sign for the need to camouflage, further.

No, I have never tried to "disappear" schrodingers dog, but if I was to try I would choose the wilderness as my destination and location; not forgetting to pack a pair of Australian-Aborigine 'feather shoes' with all the survivalist gear I would need to eat, sleep, and move with unfettered aplomb.

Cheers,
Daniel Moszkowicz. (The Troll-King of Chatsitea.)


reply posted on 18-2-2010 @ 08:16 PM by Alethea
Here's the story of a woman who tried to disappear. Her name was Susan Jordan. She left intentionally but her reasons are unknown. She just walked out of her life one day. But technology would not allow her to disappear. Someone went to a lot of trouble to track down films from cameras in places where she might have gone.

Caught on camera at her apt. complex; caught on camera at a local store; caught on camera at Greyhound bus stop....and what's this? She was wearing a disguise! There must have been a lot of sleuths on this case. This woman had done nothing wrong. She just wanted to leave her life. Who financed this manhunt? Who was so determined to find her?

So after she was caught on camera at the bus station, she took yet another bus and went to another town. When she came out of the restroom at the station....she had changed into yet another disguise. This woman had a purpose in mind. There was a method to her madness!
She was caught on Greyhound cameras in three different cities.

Television news shows covered her disappearance religiously. Investigators went into her home and took DNA samples, fingerprints, and rifled through all of her things.

A poster above said it was very easy for a middle-aged woman to disappear. This story refutes that. This woman was 57 and very ordinary in appearance. So what were her mistakes?

She moved quickly and disguised herself; she took on a new name. Still, after six weeks she was "found". They say she made a phone call to family. This makes no sense. She had plenty of opportunity to tell them she was leaving if she had wanted them to know. Why would she wait to call them? Did she call them to have them "call off the press" and to tell them to leave her alone? Did she call due to the pressures of the manhunt publicity?

If investigators worked this hard on finding criminals, there should be no criminals left on the streets.

Remember the "missing bride" who got cold feet and disappeared? She was fined for her disappearance and made to reimburse money for state time tracking her down.

So, that brings me back to the question....why was the manhunt of an innocent person such as Susan Jordan, a priority? If they had on film that she was leaving voluntarily, why did they continue to pursue her? And, who financed the hounding? Why was it so important to find this woman who obviously just wanted a change in life?
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