Conflict of Interest - US Government vs. Toyota, page 1
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reply posted on 3-2-2010 @ 11:35 AM by GreenBicMan
reply to post by Carseller4



You are correct about Ford, editing, my bad



reply posted on 3-2-2010 @ 11:50 AM by Ahabstar
reply to post by Carseller4



On a side note: I was considering my next vehicle to be a Chrysler product but after the bailout mess and control turned over to Fiat (that Italian company that did not fair very well when they were sold in the US market) I decided that I would return to Ford for my next purchase.

Nissan was in the mix for a while, but since Ford actually tried to sell me a car by negotiation and effort to fit my budget versus Nissan's "there it is buy it or don't" attitude from the dealership, I have to say I am leaning towards a Ford Focus or the reintroduced Fiesta this summer.


reply posted on 3-2-2010 @ 11:55 AM by GreenBicMan
reply to post by JBA2848



Because .gov has interest in a competitor and stands to make money on this when Toyota goes down. That is a conflict of interest IMO especially when .gov is making slanderous statements against Toyota (later retracted)


reply posted on 3-2-2010 @ 12:08 PM by Zosynspiracy
reply to post by JBA2848



WRONG! Do you know what break torquing is? It's a technique where when in a car or truck you sit there with the break applied and hit the gas pedal............guess what happens??????????????? You sit there and spin your tires and create a big smoking mess. And guess where the car goes? NOWHERE! No one said anything about cars not stopping when you apply the breaks. It's a matter of the gas pedal sticking. HUGE difference. If people took the time to read their owner's manuals and educate themselves on how that vehicle they are driving WORKS than there wouldn't even be this huge issue. Like I said there are too many idiots behind the wheel.


reply posted on 3-2-2010 @ 12:13 PM by GreenBicMan
reply to post by Zosynspiracy



Yes, brainwashed people and the only reason IMO .gov is all over this is because they stand to profit from any Toyota downfall


reply posted on 3-2-2010 @ 02:30 PM by JBA2848
www.dailymail.co.uk...#
Mark Saylor, 45, died alongside his wife Cleofe, also 45, their daughter Mahala, 13, and Mrs Saylor’s brother Chris Lastrella when the hired Toyota Lexus they were travelling in accelerated out of control on a highway in San Diego.
In the emergency call, Mr Lastrella is heard saying: ‘We’re in a Lexus… and we’re going north on 125 and our accelerator is stuck… there’s no brakes… we’re approaching the intersection …. Hold on … hold on and pray … pray.’
The recording adds to the public relations disaster that has enveloped the Japanese car maker since it recalled 4.5 million vehicles across the world because of 'sticky accelerator' problems.

On this news article there is a picture of a car that wrecked due to this problem.I guess they did more then sit still and spin the tires.

www.whas11.com...

Witnesses say that a driver's accelerator got stuck while he was in a parking lot sending the car down an embankment.
The driver, Todd Allen, is in serious condition at University Hospital.
He was driving a 2010 Toyota Camry, a car on Toyota’s re-call list because of a possible sticky gas pedal.
And in his police report Allen says he had his foot on the break but the car kept going.

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Heres another one where they didn't just sit there and spin the tires.


[edit on 3-2-2010 by JBA2848]


reply posted on 3-2-2010 @ 02:55 PM by JBA2848
www.usatoday.com...

The recall includes an unspecified number of 2009-10 Pontiac Vibes, designed and built by Toyota for General Motors' now- discontinued Pontiac brand. Vibe is similar to the Toyota Matrix that's part of the recall.

Toyota did not identify Vibe in its announcement of the recall. GM made no announcement, but confirmed Vibe is included.

GM spokesman Alan Adler says: "We do not typically do pre-recall announcements. We tend to wait until there is something that can be done," before notifying owners.

Hanson has said it could be weeks before Toyota determines a remedy and gets it approved by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA).

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The recall will effect GM also due to Toyota makeing parts for 2009-10 Pontiac Vibes. So the government trying to boost GM by recalling Toyota means GM gets recalled at the same time.


reply posted on 3-2-2010 @ 03:11 PM by JBA2848
www.thetruthaboutcars.com...

In the pedal-gate dept., Toyota will recall a combined 180,000 vehicles in the Middle East, Latin America and Africa due to faulty gas pedals, says the Nikkei [sub]. According to a Toyota spokesperson, the total number of vehicles to be recalled in all regions stands at 4.45m vehicles. That’s not including the ones that were carpet-bagged..


So its not just in the US there being recalled Middle East, Latin America and Africa. Not to mention Japan and US.


reply posted on 3-2-2010 @ 03:12 PM by dolphinfan
reply to post by GreenBicMan



What interests me in all of this is the Japanese response, which has essentially been none.

Having worked in Japan some and being somewhat familiar with the culture, the fact that there have not been massive resignations or even a suicide is odd to me.

You're going to find that this was a legitimate recall, of course. You are also going to find that these were US parts and the Japanese firms will kibosh their use of those parts. The government reaction will also cause the Japanese to rethink their entire parts sourcing model. The Japanese don't directly do anything. They just elected the most anti-US PM in recent history.

While folks are happy that there will be an increase in US market share for US autos, in the long run the parts component is huge and this will be a net job reduction.

Oh by the way, check out how many GM cars are made in Mexico - a ton.

The car on the road in the US that has the highest level of US labor and US made parts? The Toyota Camry


reply posted on 3-2-2010 @ 03:17 PM by JBA2848
www.autoweek.com...

Toyota Motor Corp., already grappling with recalls totaling 8.1 million vehicles on five continents, has been ordered by Japan's Ministry of Transportation to investigate a rash of consumer complaints about braking problems in its popular third-generation Prius hybrid vehicle.


Sounds like global plot to boost GM profits now. Obamas speeches must really be bringing the world together now.


reply posted on 3-2-2010 @ 03:21 PM by schrodingers dog
Originally posted by GreenBicMan
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post by JBA2848



Because .gov has interest in a competitor and stands to make money on this when Toyota goes down. That is a conflict of interest IMO especially when .gov is making slanderous statements against Toyota (later retracted)


To be fair ...

Japan's Transportation Ministry has asked Toyota to investigate brake malfunction complaints in Japan on its Prius, the gasoline-electric hybrid car which was the best-selling vehicle in the country in 2009, according to the Japan Automobile Dealers Association. edition.cnn.com...


Not saying that american companies don't stand to benefit, though in the global economy jobs are affected everywhere including the US when Toyota has problems, but their own government is also involved. I imagine there's no conflict of interest there.
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