Mr Plinkett's Avatar Review.

Every few years a movie hits the theaters that does a great job at showing me how "stupid" audiences have become. Some flick just grabs the attention and hearts of the entire nation while I'm stuck here shaking my head and assuming them all to be media-washed simpletons more engrossed with theatrics then the plight of their own lives.

Avatar has recently been added to my list of brain-sucking movies of today.

We have longing fans admitting to suicidal thoughts after viewing.

We have box office numbers going through the roof.

We have countless men and women fantasizing about having sex with giant blue people.

This movie has all the makings of a new religion for the "dumb", and frankly I am scared of the people taking this flick too seriously. I mean, we are killing hundreds of people across seas, and here we are, collectively "giving a damn" about these CGI people of Avatar.

I mean...sure the movie wasn't as big a "plop" as that Twilight crap all these kids have been all hopped up on, but the "radical fans" of both movies are equally as dysfunctional and lost as the Manson Family's most mindless.

I mean, no matter what, if you meet someone under the age of 35, wearing a T-shirt of Avatar or Twilight, you are almost assured the little "media-troll" has also adapted/conformed his/her entire psyche to fit some director's "vision" of an "imaginary world".

Ever try to talk sense to a 20-something Twilight fan and then have him/her interrupt you to add that Vampires "may" be real?

Ever listen to a newly converted Avatar fan begin lecturing you on the "evils of the military" and then explain to you the "way it really should be" by spewing on about the Na'vi and their perfect world of Pandora?

Holy crow!

At those times I normally just look at them and try to slowly explain to them that their entire world is a "crystalline farce", built on the imaginations of artistic others hell bent on taking their ticket money. But in the end, they all just roll their eyes and walk away thinking "I am the lost one here, paying attention to the real world" while they are "somehow enlightened by worshiping a popular movie that was made for the 'dumbed down' popular audience that also ran out to see 'Titanic' in droves".

But whatever...

I mean, if you think fictional blue people are somehow awakening you spiritually or intellectually, then good job for you champ! I wonder how many people "really running this world" are also running out to buy and collect all the Avatar trinkets they can hoard, while considering suicide in efforts to get closer to the Na'vi.

I am "almost sure" that no "really powerful people" in this world have altered their perceptions of planet earth, and the human species on it, after going to the theater (or illegally downloading. Who we kidding?) and seeing this overly patronizing work of fiction.

Add to all that, the possibility of having an epileptic seizure by the end of the flick, and you have yet another reason to boo Avatar.

Ok ok, the effects were nice...right...ok...good thing I really don't give a damn about effects. You have to do more then flood my senses with millions of dollars of CGI and sweeping music scores to gain my ultimate attention.

Anyways...the reason I posted this, was not because I wanted to share my personal review of Avatar, or take easy pot-shots at the zealots who adore it.

I posted this to share with you a review done by a man known as Mr Plinkett, who reviews lots of bad movies in a humorous way. Three days ago his newest review for Avatar came out and I just got done watching it.

I must say, I agree with much of what he has to say here, and I think some of you media-haters may enjoy this man's view/review on Avatar, seeing as it touches on the conspiracy "that Hollywood is making you stupid" and "the common tricks used in film to brainwash you into sucking it all up".

I thought it made some good points, and I always enjoy a Mr Plinkett Review.

So, enjoy it, or don't...but flag and star me no matter what you think. I don't care if you got love for Avatar or not! I demand ample stars and a plethora of flags here....really.


Good day.


WARNING= Some explicit language and adult concepts.

PART 1


PART 2




[edit on 3-2-2010 by Mr Mask]

reply to post by Mr Mask


Thanks for posting this, I love this guy for his recent review of Phantom Menace. I was surprised he managed to say anything good about Avatar considering how he tore Lucas and Phantom Menace to shreds. He definitely made me realize a few of the flaws I'd overlooked but in the end I still liked the movie a great deal. What can I say I'm a sci-fi kinda guy and Cameron manages to take a familiar story and make it worth watching again (plus I am partial to T2 and Aliens).

I know what you mean about people who look at the story too deeply and want to point out the stuff about the military. It is true that a danger exists, the whole corporate army loyal to no nation. I understand the desire to dislike the rabid fanbase of the film but in the end it was a pretty good movie. I've actually heard people mention the story was rife with conspiracy stuff about Israel, I think they are looking a little too far into it.

Agreed it's a terrible film(apart from the graphics and stereoscopic 3D) why it is causing such a stir i will never know, and the personal issues people are having with it are nothing short of embarrassing. I think peoples taste and expectations of movies are slowly declining in the end. No flag from me though, but i'll give you a star.

[edit on 3-2-2010 by Solomons]

reply to post by Titen-Sxull


I am also a huge Sci-fi guy, and totally love getting lost in the genre, as well as analyzing the often-not-too-deeply-hidden social commentary within most "good" sci-fi movies of the past decades.

Glad you enjoyed Plinkett's new review. I knew someone here had to enjoy his work as much as I do- so you were my intended audience for this thread. Awesome to have hit my target!

Thanks for the reply and the possibility of "you" being the guy who flagged and stared my fluffy thread of unimportance.

PS- Love MST3K, so since this thread is about Avatar, I thought id comment on yours and say- "GO CROW!!!"

reply to post by Solomons


Oh, I see...saving those flags for someone more worthy, eh?

FAIR ENOUGH!

Never mind my poor mother is suffering from "lack-o-flag-abrosis", but fine and fair...keep your fancy fancy flags for yourself. I do thank you for your wonderful star though!!!

After all...Mr Mask only survives by eating stars. The flags I donate to my mom's charity.

I am happy to hear someone else also thought the movie was a total piece of crap. It is good to know that if an Avatar war starts in the streets, someone else will take up arms against these crazy Avatar-fans with me.

I don't feel so alone now.

Thanks for your reply and star.

In return you have earned a star from me, and some respect for your tastes in movies.

Spend that however you wish!

After reading on here all the threads about Avatar and the effect it has had on some, I thought I'd better check it out.

Whilst in the cinema, My mind was cast back to being a youngster on my first date watching Pochontis,. The story was almost exactly the same (replace Indians with smurf people). So knowing how the film would pan out after 5 mins all I was left with was a dodgy 3d experience that gave me a bit of headache. and it drags on and on.
The meaning of Avatar. Humans are bad, blue smurf people are good, it all a equals stupid film, that youve seen countless times before.

It worries me that so many have been taken in by the film. Some people really need to get out more into the real 3d world.

" oh Pandora isn't it beautifull, I wish I could live there"

From what I could tell Earth is a far more beautifull place.

[edit on 3-2-2010 by woodwardjnr]

Oh, I thought it was a good flick...great visuals of course, the story was sound, the characters were portrayed well enough, all around worth the cash spent to see it.

I came out from the movie thinking, I care about the greenery of the world and we should protect it...but, I went into the movie with the same mindset to begin with...no change there (I am one of those wacky liberals whom actually like forests and clean streams).

I think war sucks overall, but hey, sometimes we do what needs to be done....still, I wouldn't kill someone knowingly over resources (unless it was for absolute survival or death, in which case...survival takes priority).

The people whom are suicidal and other extreme cases are also the types that would be jumping off high places after seeing superman. mentally unstable people walked in with a warped concept of reality to begin with and any good movie will end up messing with their brain. I think people like that should stay away from sci-fi movies...however, would rather them see something like that verses a murder mystery...better to have a new member of greenpeace than a new serial killer.

Ultimately, the review seems more focused on the people and how they reacted than the movie itself as the biggest complaint.

one last thing...download a pirate version of avatar...who would do that...part of what made the movie what it is, is the 3d effects...some movies you simply need to see in theaters. *shakes fist*

reply to post by woodwardjnr


Well said, my friend.

Total Disney terd. I felt like I was being talked down to the entire length of the film. "Oh I get it! I am human and the devil lives inside me. Those blue folks are the good guys and I just suck for existing outside of their impossible standard of living".

Boo, boo, triple boo. (First triple boo I ever delivered on ATS...historical!)

Anyways...


I always star those who agree with me....guess I am just in love with my own terrible opinion.

So star for you!

Originally posted by SaturnFX
Oh, I thought it was a good flick...great visuals of course, the story was sound, the characters were portrayed well enough, all around worth the cash spent to see it.

At first, I saw you not agreeing with me and thought "this one is going to go too far. NO STAR for this one!"

But then-

I came out from the movie thinking, I care about the greenery of the world and we should protect it...but, I went into the movie with the same mindset to begin with...no change there (I am one of those wacky liberals whom actually like forests and clean streams).

I like wacky liberals who like trees and stuff, so I started thinking "maybe this person isn't nuts or something".

I think war sucks overall, but hey, sometimes we do what needs to be done....still, I wouldn't kill someone knowingly over resources (unless it was for absolute survival or death, in which case...survival takes priority).

After reading this part, I realized you may be valuable in an "end of the world event", where we both meet in a crumbled city-or-town looking for technology and food supplies.

So then I started thinking-

"well, if it comes down to me and this poster being the last two sane people alive or something...I guess they can like Avatar as long as they are not a dangerous anti-liberal extremist all gah-gah over the Blue people of Pandora".

The people whom are suicidal and other extreme cases are also the types that would be jumping off high places after seeing superman. mentally unstable people walked in with a warped concept of reality to begin with and any good movie will end up messing with their brain.

Found your star here. Have to agree with you fully and overly.

I think people like that should stay away from sci-fi movies...however, would rather them see something like that verses a murder mystery...better to have a new member of greenpeace than a new serial killer.

I'd rather see these types locked up in a place where I do not have to meet them. Not saying "prison" or anything as brutal...but why not paint a few of them blue and drop them in a jungle so they can "have a go" at "living how they desire".

Ultimately, the review seems more focused on the people and how they reacted than the movie itself as the biggest complaint.

Really? I thought Plinkett was agreeing with me that Avatar "totally sucked".

O well...you may be right. Perhaps he liked it more then I did.

one last thing...download a pirate version of avatar...who would do that...part of what made the movie what it is, is the 3d effects...some movies you simply need to see in theaters. *shakes fist*

THIS is where I wished I could flag you and throw a million stars your way. Stealing movies is a damn offense and those who knowingly steal private property (even media) are criminal pigs. These types make me sick, and to meet so few people "who agree" that the act is despicable, makes me wonder "how messed up is everyone these days!?"

and-

"Where have we gone wrong when more people steal movies instead of buying them"?

Eh...whole other topic.

With all that said, thanks for the post and thanks for not stealing Avatar.

[edit on 3-2-2010 by Mr Mask]

I just refused to see this

I admit this makes me a hypocrite so when it comes out on DvD I will try it out

from what I understand it is a visually pretty version of Dances With Wolves

-Kyo

I saw the movie, and I feel ripped off.

The Earth didn't move, I wasn't Enlightened

It was a "ok" movie,

Originally posted by KyoZero
I just refused to see this

I admit this makes me a hypocrite so when it comes out on DvD I will try it out

from what I understand it is a visually pretty version of Dances With Wolves

-Kyo

Plinkett makes reference to Dances with Wolves in his review (posted above).

Even if you haven't seen Avatar, his reviews can be enjoyed by those with a warped sense of humor (maybe even a bad one). I recommend his reviews to anyone with a darker sense of humor and a cynical outlook on mainstream media.

BUT!

Since you agree...sort of...by boycotting the flick on first glance, AND for the Dr Who avatar (unless that is the character she plays on that prostitute show), STAR for you and thanks for the reply.

Originally posted by Sean48


I saw the movie, and I feel ripped off.

The Earth didn't move, I wasn't Enlightened

It was a "ok" movie,

I feel your pain brother.

I wanted to join a help group for people who "were not emotionally moved by this blatant attempt to attack my soft and innocent side".

"Apathetically-Bord-off-my-butt-anonymous" hasn't been invented as of yet...so I am just dealing with my total lack of "caring" for these blue people on my own without the help of a trained medical staff.

Hang in there...we can't be the only people who witnessed this whopping piece of crap for what it really was. Just deal with it day by day...it's all we can do.

Star for you buck-o!

reply to post by Mr Mask


Aren't you just discussing here another Social Phenomena of this sort that took place back in the late 70's with the Release of the Film " Star Wars " ?
I would Imagine that kids who viewed that Film back then have finally been able to distingish the difference between Fantasy and Reality by now . In time , I am sure the same thing will happen to kids today once the Novelty of the Film wears off and the Next Hollywood Block Buster comes out to somehow Amaze them again . It's all about making a Buck in the Movie Industry , and let's just face it , they are very good at what they do ....

I thought the movie was the most visually stunning movie I've ever seen... absolutely blew me away.... I went in with rather low expectations and was really impressed.

The story was totally unoriginal and there was nothing story-wise or script-wise in the movie that was new.


But man... what an experience.

Pure cinema at it's best for sure..... and the 3D was mind-blowing.... I was expecting some crappy red and green lenses but got something that actually was 3D... and it was amazing.


I'm not deluded and I don't love the blue people and hate humans...
I don't feel a connection to those people, I wasn't depressed after I saw it and so on... in fact I think that it's extremely sad and disturbing that people could get like that.

I also HATE Twilight

Not that I've seen it but I don't need to


I do think there are some messages in Avatar for sure and I think it draws parallels with things like the Native Americans and Some Amazonian tribes and others... and how we just smash whatever is in our way for progress and fear what we don't understand.

I really liked the film, both visually and for the story and messages.


But then I'm a hippie, socialist, commie, tree-huggin' lefty... so meh.





[edit on 3/2/10 by blupblup]

Originally posted by Zanti Misfit
reply to post by Mr Mask

 

Aren't you just discussing here another Social Phenomena of this sort that took place back in the late 70's with the Release of the Film " Star Wars " ?

No, no no! Is there a blond young guy named "Luke" seeking to become a Jedi like his father, in Avatar? Did you even witness a small green troll named Yoda doing anything in Avatar? Was there even a single scene in the entire movie where Han Solo did something "really cool" before adding some one liner that made you "understand" his coolness even more?

The answer to all these questions is "no".

Star Wars has nothing to do with this thread.

And no...there is nothing wrong with liking Star Wars. I don't have proof of this, but I will find it and show it to you via email/youtube/twitter/myspace/ATS or some other non-personal avenue, as soon as I get my hands on it.

Besides...what kind of crazy person dosn't like the original Star-Wars movies? Really now.

I would Imagine that kids who viewed that Film back then have finally been able to distingish the difference between Fantasy and Reality by now .

I don't know if I am right here, but in my personal case in living through the "Star Wars" generation (and loving it), nowhere did anyone (myself included) make complaints about wanting to kill themselves over the movies.

The whole "suicidal thoughts from watching Star Wars" came much later after the release of Phantom Menace and the two train wrecks that followed.

In time , I am sure the same thing will happen to kids today once the Novelty of the Film wears off and the Next Hollywood Block Buster comes out to somehow Amaze them again .

Star.

It's all about making a Buck in the Movie Industry , and let's just face it , they are very good at what they do ....

Took them so many years to perfect their system, but yeah, they got us where they want us.

Thanks for your post here!

I wholeheartedly agree with Mr. Mask.

I planned to watch it when the cg hype was being brewed, but they lost me when they showed the blue people.

Let's just say, I watched it in the end after being forced and I'm sad to say that it wasted 2.5 hours of my life.

My biggest gripe on the film was it's cringe-worthy preachyness and the aforementioned blue men.

What disturbs me the most out of this flick is the mild outbreak of people who are into those blue things. It was disturbing to say the least.

I've seen Captain Planet and Thundercats when I was a kid so there's nothing new here.

On the other hand, I could have enjoyed the movie if I was 10 years old or have a weird thing for giant blue people.

reply to post by Mr Mask


I was not refering to the differences between the Stories of those two Films , but just the Popularity that those two Films had in common with kids in general . They were both Fictional in content , and should both be judged as that .

Originally posted by Mr Mask

Originally posted by KyoZero
I just refused to see this

I admit this makes me a hypocrite so when it comes out on DvD I will try it out

from what I understand it is a visually pretty version of Dances With Wolves

-Kyo

Plinkett makes reference to Dances with Wolves in his review (posted above).

Even if you haven't seen Avatar, his reviews can be enjoyed by those with a warped sense of humor (maybe even a bad one). I recommend his reviews to anyone with a darker sense of humor and a cynical outlook on mainstream media.

BUT!

Since you agree...sort of...by boycotting the flick on first glance, AND for the Dr Who avatar (unless that is the character she plays on that prostitute show), STAR for you and thanks for the reply.

not at all!

I love Rose Tyler

The movie just looks at first glance like special effects and no plot...not interested

-Kyo

Originally posted by Unregistered
I wholeheartedly agree with Mr. Mask.

Always a way to get a star from me.

I planned to watch it when the cg hype was being brewed, but they lost me when they showed the blue people.

A few humans find them grotesque, I assure you. We must band together.

Let's just say, I watched it in the end after being forced and I'm sad to say that it wasted 2.5 hours of my life.

Don't forget the 20 minutes of previews.

My biggest gripe on the film was it's cringe-worthy preachyness and the aforementioned blue men.

I so agree. I mean, I didn't sign up for this to be lectured by a guy who makes/spends more money on toys then I can afford to spend on basic living.

Gee...thanks James.

What disturbs me the most out of this flick is the mild outbreak of people who are into those blue things. It was disturbing to say the least.

Dear God...you are absolutely correct.

I am also afraid of this new cult of fetish and want nothing to do with neighborhoods that may harbor one of these Navi lovers.

I've seen Captain Planet and Thundercats when I was a kid so there's nothing new here.

Ok...I am slowly moving away from you, but still agree with the basic tone of your post.

On the other hand, I could have enjoyed the movie if I was 10 years old or have a weird thing for giant blue people.

I could have also loved this movie if I was a people-hating, manic depressive with a lacking outlook on humanity based only on what the media shoves in my face.

Thanks for posting!