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reply posted on 16-2-2012 @ 06:41 AM by karl 12
George Knapp discusses missing UFO evidence:




This film examines how governments, especially our own, have been hiding the truth about secret UFO studies and still maintain secrecy at any cost.




reply posted on 21-2-2012 @ 12:44 PM by karl 12
Originally posted by greyer

Greg Bishop and Bill Moore are pathetic liars. That is what's 'missing' from UFO research.


Greyer, thanks for the post and I see you and Kandinsky have both made some excellent posts in your relevant thread about the subject:


Uncovering The True Story Of Paul F. Bennewitz


As for missing UFO evidence, I thought John F. Schuessler made some good points in this article from 1994:


Unidentified Flying Objects: The Missing Information

A significant number of UFO reports and rumors of UFO reports since WW-II have involved various government individuals or organizations. UFO investigators have been endeavoring to get answers to these cases, but the results I have seen have been less than satisfying. Often inquiries are met with total denial. When replies were given, they usually contained blank or censored segments, even when requested through official FOIA (Freedom of Information Act) channels. This has resulted in the feelings of distrust between citizen and government and the continual cry of ‘cover-up.’

There is little doubt that government officials could put an end to this mystery if they were motivated to do so. Files could be opened. Satellite data could be released. Films could be released. Military and other government officials could be relieved of security oaths were UFO reports are concerned. NORAD, Dew Line and other tracking systems data sets could be released. NASA files could be released and crewmembers given permission to speak freely. This all should all be done while the principle players are still alive.

In the case of the older reports in government files, none of this would hurt national security because none of the older technology is still in use today. For newer cases the UFO information could be separated from sensitive material and fully released. Either way, it is time for some forthright help from government officials. The mass of information awaiting release is phenomenal....



reply posted on 21-2-2012 @ 12:49 PM by karl 12
Contd:

Some of the material I would like to see officially disclosed follows:


On 29 December 1980 Betty Cash, Vickie Landrum and Colby Landrum were injured by a large glowing device hovering over the highway to the northeast of Houston, Texas. Their injuries had all of the characteristics of being caused by radiation exposure. In addition to the hovering device, more than 23 helicopters were at the scene as well. Materials that should be released include: Helicopter unit names and crew member names and addresses, with permission for them to disclose what they saw, where they went with it, and the amount and type of radiation involved. Full and uncensored disclosure of the Army and Air Force Inspector General Reports. Reports and recommendations from the government radiation experts.


Full transcripts and photographs from the UFO encounter on the spaceflight of NASA Gemini GT-10.


Release of the correct photographs taken by General James McDivitt on the flight of NASA Gemini GT-04. According to the General, the photographs released were not the ones he took.


Release of all of the photographs from the three visits to the Skylab space station. The Department of Defense reviewed the photographs and removed ‘sensitive’ shots before NASA was allowed to release them. These should now be released.


A Royal Dutch Air Force pilot flying a F-86 sighted a UFO on January 29, 1962 over eastern Holland. It was tracked by control tower radar. He armed a rocket and closed in only to have the UFO fly away from him. The NATO report, as a minimum, should be released.


On July 10, 1962, a group of S2F Tracker aircraft saw a disc-shaped craft come in over the U.S. Naval Auxiliary Air Station at New Iberia, LA. The craft came in very fast and low, slowed over the runway and hangar, then went out of sight while climbing at a 20 to 30 degree angle. The report, results of the investigation, radar data, photographs and conclusions should be released.


In 1962, former Secretary Dan Kimball and Admiral A.W. Radford were on planes flying between Guam and Hawaii and were circled by two high-speed flying discs. A disc flying around military people of this stature should be the only confirmation required by public, government, science alike to accept that discs do fly and they are not ours. We still have not seen the flight reports. The sighting was confirmed by a U.S. Naval Research, Chief Admiral Calvin Bolster. The full text of the investigation should be released. In addition, other UFO investigations done by Naval Research should be released.


Military aircraft gun cameras have filmed thousands of UFOs, according to pilot reports; however, not one frame of gun camera film has ever been released. At the same time thousands of feet of airplanes being shot down have been released. These films were archived at several locations and should be released. In addition, videotape has now replaced film and these tapes should also be released. Years ago, Major John A. Samford acknowledged that thousands of pilots had tried in vain to intercept UFOs, a fact acknowledged by most pilots today. It was acknowledged that two jet interceptors near Wright Patterson Air Force Base on August 1, 1952 did take gun camera film, a standard operating procedure.


On September 8, 1958, a large rocket-shaped UFO was seen by Strategic Air Command officers, tower operators, and missile personnel at Offutt AFB, Nebraska. Small objects circled and were taken in by the large object. It then climbed out of sight. One witness was Major Paul Duich. Command officer statements, tower records, missile officer reports, OSI records and investigative reports should be released.


The FAA Experimental Center at Atlantic City confirmed tracking a UFO on radar on February 24, 1967. Public Affairs Officer E.L. Shoop gave an official release. The report verified the UFO was near the location where motorist Robert King said he saw the UFO. This is both a ground and an airborne report. How much more is needed? It verifies that the FAA does track UFOs. All reports since then should be released.


On March 14, 1967, a KC-135 flying over Southeast Asia encountered a giant black cylinder suspended in the sky. Col. Robert M. Tirman, a flight surgeon was one of the witnesses. They circled to make sure it was not a weather balloon. The full report of the investigation should be released.


On September 19, 1976, F-4 aircraft flown by Iranian pilots from the Shahrokhi airport intercepted a UFO. A general watched from the control tower. The crew of an Iran Air Boeing 747 airliner heard and watched. F-4 missiles failed to fire. A lot of details of this case are available in the open, but none of the reports sent from the U.S. Embassy in Tehran to the CIA, State Department, DOD, etc. were ever released, nor were the follow-up investigation reports. These should be released.


reply posted on 21-2-2012 @ 12:54 PM by karl 12
Contd:

The investigative report of the May 14, 1978 sightings at Pinecastle Electronic Warfare Range, Ocala, Florida, and witnessed by the base air controller and other personnel should be released.


On April 30, 1964, a B-57 was flying a mission in the vicinity of Stallion Site when the pilot called Holloman AFB and said: “I’m not alone up here.” He then described it as “egg-shaped and white.” On a second pass he said the UFO was on the ground. Base range tracking equipment took data (i.e. speed, azimuth, etc.). Base communications were overheard, verifying the incident. The pilot reports, range tracking data, ground and flight crew reports, etc. should be released. It should be noted that this was only 6 days after police officer Lonnie Zamora reported seeing an egg-shaped object near Socorro, New Mexico.


On May 15, 1964, between 11:30 a.m. and 12:15 p.m., Holloman surveillance and FPS-16 radars tracked two objects north of Stallion Site. Radar operators made a visual confirmation as well. The objects were brown and football shaped. Various flight maneuvers were recorded. Tracking data, film, radar site reports and OSI reports should be released.


On September 1, 1977, Colonel Charles H. Senn, USAF Chief, Community Relations Division, Office of Information sent a letter to Lt. General Duward L. Crow, USAF (Ret.), working at NASA. In the letter Col. Senn said “I sincerely hope you are successful in preventing a reopening of UFO investigations.” The letter was sent in copy form to other offices as well. In the end he was successful in preventing the reopening. In this case, Col. Senn violated his office charter by not being community relations oriented and definitely not aimed at providing information at the title of his office defines as proper. This should be a starting place for an investigation of why this and other P.I. offices did not and are not freely providing UFO information.


On July 11, 1950, crews of two Navy planes flying near Osceola, Arkansas, saw a disc-shaped UFO and their sighting was confirmed by radar. It crossed their flight path only a mile away. Pilot reports, radar data, and Naval Intelligence investigative reports should be released.


On May 14, 1954, a flight of Marine jets led by Major Charles Scarborough, were headed north near Dallas, Texas. They sighted sixteen UFOs in groups of four dead ahead but above them. Another pilot, Captain Jorgensen was flying above, looking down at the UFOs. The official Marine Corps report and the pilot reports should be released.


On August 1, 1952, Major James B. Smith and Lt. Don Hemer, unitd States Air Force F-86 pilots saw and photographed a round hovering object which was tracked on radar. The pilot report, photographs, and radar data should be released.


On January 22, 1952, three F-94 aircraft were scrambled out of Alaska to intercept a radar target. The UFO maneuvered and sped away to the west. This intercept was in a very secure defense area. Extensive radar and investigative records would exist and should be released.


United States Senator Barry Goldwater, in a letter dated October 19, 1981, told how he tried in vain to acquire access to the ‘blue room’ at Wright Patterson AFB. He said “this thing has gotten so highly classified, it is just impossible to get anything on it.” The Senator was also a military General. It is time to release the information on ‘blue room’ from the classified files.



Thousands of other similar incidents have occurred and extensive reports were promulgated. The standard government operating procedure of hiding the data needs to be replaced by a new process aimed at releasing all UFO information.

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reply posted on 29-2-2012 @ 10:55 AM by karl 12
More claims of UFO photographs being 'confiscated' by the U.S. Air Force.


The Papuan First sighting





The story opens with Mr TP Drury's sighting in 1953. The story opens with Mr. TP Drury's sighting in 1953. At the time he was Director of Civil Aviation in the Territory of Papua and New Guinea, stationed at Port Moresby: At the time he was Director of Civil Aviation in the Territory of Papua and New Guinea, stationed at Port Moresby:

"..Suddenly, an object like a silver dart shot out of the cloud. It was elongated in shape like a bullet. It was very clear-cut, sharp in front but apparently truncated behind, though the tail may have been hidden by the vapor trail. No wings or fins were visible. It shot out of the cloud upwards at an angle of about 45 degrees and was traveling at least five times as fast as a jet plane traveling at the speed of sound. It never slackened speed or changed direction, but simply faded upwards into the blue and its vapor after it faded. The vapor trail was very clear, dense, white and billowing, and is visible in the remaining portion of the film still in my possession. In spite of the supersonic speed and nearness of the object, there was no sound whatever.

"I was greatly concerned about the appearance of such an extraordinary object in the sky and drove straight to Jackson's Airport and checked with Air Traffic Control. There were no unusual aircraft out, only a DC3 and a DC4. I reported the sighting to the RAAF but they were unable to account for it. I later sent them the film which was sent all over the world, but no-one could explain the object. I am absolutely certain of its reality and I know all types of aircraft. I have flown 32 of them myself”

This appears to be the first record of an unidentified flying object over the Territory of Papua New Guinea, and it remains the only one to have been photographed. Mr Drury claims that when the film was returned to him after being sent to America and other countries, the best frames had been removed and the remainder showed only the cloud and the vapour trail.


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reply posted on 1-3-2012 @ 02:13 AM by karl 12
More claims of missing UFO photographs and witness reports - pilot told to 'cool it'.


At 38,000 feet last May he spotted a large object with a tube-like shape floating off his right wing. Doubting that any equipment we know could be pressureized and certificated to occupy that section of airspace, he deviated slightly from his air lane to take a closer look.

His co-pilot and flight engineer both observed it. It was dusk and he advised the passengers to look out the right window and take pictures if they had cameras.

His flight engineer took a Polaroid out of his flight bag and got three shots, slightly blurred, but obviously showing something red, hovering, with a projection or hump underneath it.

When they landed at the destination airport, the captain took the names of passengers who admitted seeing the object and collected a fourth roll of undeveloped film from one of them with a promise to return it. He then went to his dispatcher, wrote a report by hand of the circumstances and attached the film and the pictures to it.

He has never heard from his company.The dispatcher advised he turned everything over to the airline office that evening. The dispatcher was transferred to another city, and repeated calls to the airline are all answered with the denial that anyone has EVER received the report with pictures.

The captain was told that he could file another report and was advised that the airline had more than 150 UFO sighting reports on file and that he should "cool it."


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reply posted on 23-4-2012 @ 08:53 PM by karl 12
Possible missing government documents in the Shag Harbour UFO incident:


Missing Documents

During his investigation, Styles encountered several suspicious instances of missing government records. In one case he went to the Canadian National Archives in Ottawa in Oct. 1994 and experienced 3 days of frustrating delays in obtaining a file he had previously been promised, titled "Target Detection Search, Flying Saucers, General, 1950-67." When he finally got to view it, he was shocked to discover it contained only 2 dozen documents, none having to do with UFOs, even though this was supposedly a UFO file. More telling, one sheet of paper had a notation that this file group had documents removed only a few months before in July 1994.

Styles suspected the file had perhaps been "cleansed" because of a recent appearance he had made on TV where he discussed the Shag Harbour crash in detail. An archivist also advised him that any really important documents would be so highly classified they would never make it to the archives, even being denied to elected government officials. This allows the military to bury some secrets so deeply that it is almost impossible to get at them.


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