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Originally posted by MikeNice81
I've read a couple of articles about the incident. (one here)
I think they were a couple of wannabe spooks that let their political idealogy get them in trouble. They thought because they know a bit of theory they could put it in to practice. In the end real life was a litle more complicated than the text book and they got busted.
Just what I take from reading different sources.
Originally posted by m khan
Just because they are 24 they can't be CIA? What age groups does the CIA recruit? We have been seeing advertisements for CIA all over the place, they are expanding their spying at a phenomenal rate The rest of the economy is shrinking but the government is growing which they can do with fiat money to cripple the American economy. As for getting arrested, the CIA can still be caught. Watergate apparently was an inside job, them getting caught, due to infighting in the CIA.I saw that somewhere concerning the Pentagon Papers, but it will take me a while to find.
Originally posted by ChrisCrikey
reply to post by rcwj1975
So would you believe they are being played by "real" spooks? I would believe either scenario...these guys are very organized and connected and funded in their various on and off campus publications, they all have extensive histories as activists. I have good reason to believe the CIA recruits and works with 18 year olds but I have no more proof of that than what you seem to have. What do you have?
Originally posted by rcwj1975
reply to post by ChrisCrikey
No one is saying they are kids...they are young guys who tried something and failed. They aren't spooks...and having met a few ACTUAL operatives while I served I can again say with 99% confidence, these guys aren't anything more than young men who did formulate a plan, thought it would work, and simply got caught....
Read the affidavit from the arresting FBI agent and you'll see where they screwed up...somewhere a REAL spook would of had his bases covered.
Originally posted by antonia
Furthermore many CIA assets are not "Core" agents". They can actually be refereed to as "non-employees" and still receive a paycheck from the CIA.
Originally posted by rcwj1975
I am not jumping the gun on this...I am speaking from EXPERIANCE with having worked with and around REAL operatives in 2 different theaters. I have seen what they can do, what they DON'T do, etc...and these guys are NOT operatives or assets. You truly have to understand what an asset does for the CIA. Take everything you seen from Hollywood and flush it. Yeah they use assets to "take people out" but it's safe to say 90% of your assets are secretaries, janitors, businessmen, wives, etc....used to simply feed info, NOT go covert and try to go into a Federal Building during the day WITHOUT proper identification, etc....NO SPOOK is going to enter that building without an ID and verification so when someone does check...it all checks out....not oops..we left it in the truck as these 2 said.
Originally posted by antonia
And what is stopping them from picking a bunch of morons and setting them up in Madame Senators office? If you were never an agent I have to consider what knowledge you have second hand and incomplete. You couldn't know the full extent of the CIA's operations and it's presumptuous to proclaim you do.
Originally posted by rcwj1975
I agree with you they could of been set up...no arguing that. As for me, I think working next to them for 6 years gives me a MUCH different perspective and much more first hand knowledge of how things ACTUALLY work than those speaking from nothing more than reading and movies. No offense...I am just saying, I have seen these guys actually do their thing and its IMPRESSIVE...
[edit on 2/1/2010 by rcwj1975]
Originally posted by rcwj1975
reply to post by antonia
Your right, my bad...please feel free to U2U me and fill me in. I would like to know as many wanted to know my experiance a long time ago. Not that you have to, but since YOU stated I was the one who was speaking on assumptions or second hand accounts...you could atleast enlighten me..lol
Originally posted by marsvolta
can you tell me what CIA agents do?
Originally posted by OpTiMuS_PrImEObama and nazi team are digging deep into the gov that are not for him just like he is on the citizens