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If her answer would have been anything other than both his parents were American citizens and he was born in HI then that might change things wouldn't it?
That being said. What if Osama sent is pregnet American wife to the U.S. and had his kid? Would you be good with that kid being a NBC?
Originally posted by EMPIRE
reply to post by IceHappy
First of all, I thought he was going to fix all that? How's that hope and change working for ya?
Second, agree that things would get worse if this hammer dropped but I am willing to go thru it. This guy is not representing me at all. I have no idea of his agenda and what I do see I don't like. He's dropping the ball on terrorists. What will happen to our economy and the things you listed above if he allows a suitcase nuke or 2-3 to be set off. How would those things be hold up then?
We took one on the chin when Bush was in office but despite his flaws I knew he wouldn't let another happen on his watch. This guy, who knows?
Things one way are going to get worse before they get better.
Originally posted by EMPIRE
With certain members of congress being in bed with the CFR and TLC what can you hope for them to do?
Their Job and define a NBC.
So if it isn’t defined, and hasn’t been defined, why all the fuss? How do you know what the so-called founding fathers had in mind? Did anyone here ask them what they meant by it? No? So it’s open to interpretation?
My point exactly. But, if you do some research, look at history, look at the definition of what a Citizen is and ask why they exempted themselves from the NBC clause you can easily come to the conculsion that they excluded themselve because why many were born in the U.S. and may have had one parent as a citizen they didn't qualify.
If her answer would have been anything other than both his parents were American citizens and he was born in HI then that might change things wouldn't it?
See above. If there is no standard, or set definition, you can’t make up one as you go along.
Once again, my point exactly...Who is she do define it. Remember open to interpretation? She can say the words and not be right or wrong but at the same time doesn't apply to what the founding fathers intended.
That being said. What if Osama sent is pregnet American wife to the U.S. and had his kid? Would you be good with that kid being a NBC?
If the child was born here I would have no problem with it. If the mother went through the legal hoops to get to America (immigration, etc) I’d have no problem with it.
Obviously, you have no idea of what our founding fathers fought and died for. Once you loose freedom its gone. I ask you to read or remember some history and put yourself in their shoes. They gave their lives and fortunes for what you P1$$ on today. If you lived without your freedom for awhile, lets say in N. Korea, you would appreciate our constitution a little more.
Phil
Originally posted by endisnighe
SORRY SG, I was waiting for one of the someone to state this. The Hawaiian document exists, the Hawaiian official said it EXISTS, not what was on it!
"I ... have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen," Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said in a brief statement. "I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago."
The Hawaii Department of Health receives about a dozen e-mail inquiries a day about Obama's birth certificate, spokesman Okubo said.
"I guess the big issue that's being raised is the lack of an embossed seal and a signature," Okubo said, pointing out that in Hawaii, both those things are on the back of the document. "Because they scanned the front … you wouldn't see those things."
Okubo says she got a copy of her own birth certificate last year and it is identical to the Obama one we received.
Their Job and define a NBC.
My point exactly. But, if you do some research, look at history, look at the definition of what a Citizen is and ask why they exempted themselves from the NBC clause you can easily come to the conculsion that they excluded themselve because why many were born in the U.S. and may have had one parent as a citizen they didn't qualify.
If her answer would have been anything other than both his parents were American citizens and he was born in HI then that might change things wouldn't it?
Once again, my point exactly...Who is she do define it. Remember open to interpretation? She can say the words and not be right or wrong but at the same time doesn't apply to what the founding fathers intended.
Obviously, you have no idea of what our founding fathers fought and died for.
Once you loose freedom its gone.
I ask you to read or remember some history and put yourself in their shoes. They gave their lives and fortunes for what you P1$$ on today.
If you lived without your freedom for awhile, lets say in N. Korea, you would appreciate our constitution a little more.
Phil
Originally posted by circle 360
Has everyone forgotten about what Obama`s grandma said, that she witnessed his birth in Kenya South Africa.
Originally posted by endisnighe
I guess when they raise tax rates to 100% and give you food and heat vouchers, people will be happy.
edit to add-PDF given from a governmental site, why does NO one ever sign anything anymore? To further the conspiracy theorists?
I give up on any and all transparency of my government. I will say it again, we need to start over. Eliminate 90% of the government, starting with firing EVERYONE in the government. EVERYONE!
Originally posted by circle 360
Kenya South Africa then was transported to Hi
thanks for the post the truth always wins.
Originally posted by genius/idoit
Maybe we think the country stands a better chance of not going down the toilet if we don't have a criminal(fraud) at the helm.