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D.C. court case demands Obama explain eligibility

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posted on Feb, 1 2010 @ 04:11 PM
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reply to post by dereks
 


You also in your haste to rush to Barry's defense have not thoroughly read the material.



posted on Feb, 1 2010 @ 04:11 PM
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reply to post by EMPIRE
 


And you are just a one line off topic wonder.



posted on Feb, 1 2010 @ 04:12 PM
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How many times is Orly Yarly going to get thrown out of court before she catches on?

"I have no evidence, that's how I can prove it's a conspiracy! Don't you see?!"



posted on Feb, 1 2010 @ 04:18 PM
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I don't know but I'm wondering why any one would subject themselves to what she has for no reason.Maybe she takes her cannons seriously?



posted on Feb, 1 2010 @ 04:20 PM
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You can be sure if he is not legit, it will be discovered. They are many people working day and night to proof he's not, and when the smoking gun is found, or that 1 piece of evidence is discovered, you will see his fellow dems turn on him like a pit bull. He will be escorted out by security and arrested, it will be huge news and news that will carry America down a very hard road.

I believe Obama is hiding something, I am not sure if it is the whole birth thing, however, I am sure he has something serious to hide. Maybe a paper he wrote in college, maybe another serious radical friend from his past, but the guys just not right.

He could end all of this birth issue by presenting the original document, instead he pays hundres of thousands of dollars to continue to fight the birthers in court. This is his right, but I believe anybody else would just present the original document and say now stfu, and its time to move on. Doesn't that make sense?



posted on Feb, 1 2010 @ 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by Mr_skepticc
instead he pays hundres of thousands of dollars to continue to fight the birthers in court.


Care to show where he has paid that money? Oh, just another birther lie!



posted on Feb, 1 2010 @ 04:30 PM
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well fact check is not the most relaible thing on the internet.... look who actually runs that outfit and then think a bit...



posted on Feb, 1 2010 @ 04:36 PM
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Originally posted by lilwolf
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well fact check is not the most relaible thing on the internet.... look who actually runs that outfit and then think a bit...





The 'outfit's' info., if you are actually interested:

factcheck.org...


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posted on Feb, 1 2010 @ 04:37 PM
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I can't prove how much he has spent to sequester all of his records, if any, but I do know that his records are sealed from public scrutiny. Were this not the case, there would be no basis for questions of eligibility or anything else. What is he afraid of? He has had an enviable college career. Why not show it off? If he was born in Hawaii, then lay it out, put the argument to rest. My daughter has a birth document nearly identical to what has been presented on Obama's behalf on the net and elsewhere. I just had to file for the actual Birth Certificate.



posted on Feb, 1 2010 @ 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by mrbarber
I can't prove how much he has spent to sequester all of his records


then why claim he has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars? Why do birthers make lies up?


If he was born in Hawaii, then lay it out, put the argument to rest.


He has laid it out, his birth certificate is available for anyone to see, yet birthers refuse to accept it. It is actually not about the birth certificate, or any other documentation, it is about the colour of the man.



posted on Feb, 1 2010 @ 04:49 PM
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It having pleased the Divine Providence to dispose the hearts of the most serene and most potent Prince George the Third, by the grace of God, king of Great Britain, France, and Ireland, defender of the faith, duke of Brunswick and Lunebourg, arch- treasurer and prince elector of the Holy Roman Empire etc., and of the United States of America, to forget all past misunderstandings and differences that have unhappily interrupted the good correspondence and friendship which they mutually wish to restore, and to establish such a beneficial and satisfactory intercourse , between the two countries upon the ground of reciprocal advantages and mutual convenience as may promote and secure to both perpetual peace and harmony;


OurDocuments.gov

While English is the official language of ATS and most of us speak, write it and even went to school to learn to do so in reality few of us seem to have any grasp of the English language.

Above is the opening paragraph from the Treaty of Paris which is the peace treaty that concluded the Revolutionary War here in America.

Clearly the English King who derived his greatest power not as being the King of England but by being a prince of the Holy Roman Empire, it’s Arch Treasurer and prince elector also reserved the right in perpetuity to be the United State’s Arch Treasurer and to be the United State’s prince elector.

What does that mean? It means for the English language challenged that the Monarch of Great Brittan has a contractual and legal right to choose the President of the United States of America. Oh and also to control our money.

While clearly Obama is not who he claims to be, the reality is that Orly is wasting the U.S. Court’s time because this is something that would have to be taken up with the Queen of England since it is actually the British Monarch that chooses who will be President of the United States.

The United States that was, is and likely will forever be just an incorporated State of the Roman Empire.

I really wish people learned how to read.

I have by the way vigorously argued in the past that Obama is not eligible and should go, but hey if his mom was a porn star? That’s cool he can stay!



posted on Feb, 1 2010 @ 04:53 PM
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In the whole thread your the only one who brought up race.
He who smelt it dealt it!



posted on Feb, 1 2010 @ 04:55 PM
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Originally posted by genius/idoit
In the whole thread your the only one who brought up race.


Because it is something all the birthers try to suppress, but it is what pushes them along, even though they deny it!



posted on Feb, 1 2010 @ 04:56 PM
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Well I'm pretty sure she did not appoint him president so he still needs to be kicked out.



posted on Feb, 1 2010 @ 04:58 PM
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Originally posted by ProtoplasmicTraveler
I have by the way vigorously argued in the past that Obama is not eligible


You have argued, but you have yet to bring evidence into your arguments. For the most part you have argued "speculation" and unfortunatly that does not do sufficiently to prove the president is ineligible.

Its a mockery to the justice system in this country that birthers feel their "personal gut feelings" should count as evidence enough.


and should go, but hey if his mom was a porn star?


Obama's mother was a porn star? Wheres the evidence?

All talk, no walk as usual.



posted on Feb, 1 2010 @ 04:58 PM
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I'm sure she does.

This does not mean that she is right, though. It could simply mean she has some variety of the crazy. After all, she DOES keep doing the same thing while expecting different results.



posted on Feb, 1 2010 @ 04:59 PM
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Originally posted by genius/idoit
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Well I'm pretty sure she did not appoint him president so he still needs to be kicked out.


I am pretty sure she did. He gave her an Ipod and everything!

Do you just go around handing out Ipods to people?



posted on Feb, 1 2010 @ 05:00 PM
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Care to prove that?With something more than your opinion remember we all have one and yours stinks just like everyone else's(sp).



posted on Feb, 1 2010 @ 05:02 PM
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Oh,you didn't read the posts either.Shows how objective you are.



posted on Feb, 1 2010 @ 05:03 PM
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Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by genius/idoit
In the whole thread your the only one who brought up race.


Because it is something all the birthers try to suppress, but it is what pushes them along, even though they deny it!


This is a ridiculous statement. Ridiculous.
This has NOTHING to do with race.

And what's with the birther thing?
Why can't we just ask for transparency / truth -
without being labeled racist - or a birther?

Stop making the natural inclination to question and think the problem.
Our problem on this planet is the secrecy.
Gosh - no wonder we are so messed up here.




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