I posted this in another thread, no one has taken up the challange, and I think is a valid point, so if you can provide evidence to support the OS please do reply.

No matter how much documentary evidence in support of the OS is brought forward, and no matter how many different, CONFUSING, theories oF conspiracy are postulated, it seems to me that there are two items that cannot be quoted as 'facts', and yet they give the lie to the whole episode.

Flight 93 crashes INTACT and buries itself COMPLETELY into the ground.

Flight 77 crashes into the pentagon and disappears COMPLETELY into a 16 foot hole

In both cases there is no sign of wings, major body parts, tailplanes etc.

Now, having read the reasons given for this, I would like, just once, for someone to show photographs of other air disasters thats have taken place with the same outcome.
Ive seen plenty of aircrashes over the years, including Lockerbie, I don't recall ever seeing any where the plane just 'dissapears'.

Its not a lot to ask, so please, OS proponants, show me!

Originally posted by Icerider
Flight 93 crashes INTACT and buries itself COMPLETELY into the ground.

Flight 77 crashes into the pentagon and disappears COMPLETELY into a 16 foot hole


Its not a lot to ask, so please, OS proponants, show me!

Well, while Flight 93 did hit the ground intact, it didnt bury itself completely. Pieces of that aircraft ended up all around the crash site.

And, at the Pentagon crash site of Flight 77, the length of the hole was over 90 feet wide. It also left pieces of itself in, on, and around the impact area. When you come to accept those facts, then we can get on with the discussion.

I've got one. We know they crashed, yet they disappeared.

Flight 19-

Originally posted by Signals
I've got one. We know they crashed, yet they disappeared.

Flight 19-

Yep, you have me there, but can you find any ON LAND?

1996: On May 11, Valujet Flight 592 nose-dived into the Florida Everglades a few minutes after taking off from Miami. The plane, carrying 110 passengers and crew, hit the ground with such a force that it disappeared completely into the swamp and remains buried there. Investigators allege that the plane was carrying illegally stored oxygen generators that apparently fanned a fire and caused the crash. - Flexnor

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Its not a lot to ask, so please, OS proponants, show me!

It would seem logical, to me at least, that the fuselage of the plane would have the most impact . The wings being flimsy arms would only disintegrate upon something more structurally sound.

But this OS stuff is false and Corporations are responsible for the attacks of 9/11.

And seriously, when people argue about 911 and call people "idiot" type names, it is really embarrassing. Please show your Intelligence quota and have a "respectful" debate.

And yes I know that my opinion here has no merit. But Let this just be an injection into the mass consciousness, if you know what I mean.

I can see what icerider is trying to say & i agree with you the lack on much debris on the ground is very suspicious.
A few bits are laying around the impact sites but if you didn't know what happened & were shown a video of both of the crashes i think you wouldn't believe 2 planes crashed there.
it's just my opinion & i'm sure there are many reasons why there's not alot of debris.it's all very strange,there are arguments both ways

I am not a big fan of the OS but a plane hitting the ground at a few hundred mph is bound to be carrying a massive amount of kentic energy.

In my opinion it is resonable that most of it went into the ground it hit. On saying that I always thought the flight 93 crash site was a little sterile and the crater small but I have to say I am no expert on crashes or the pyhsics.