Is Israel Harvesting Organs in Haiti?

Thank you for your explanation! Star for you!

Ahh, Im happy you have an open mind.
Usually im used to people arguing their opinion until the end of days.
(not that there is something wrong with standing up for what you beleive - but it is important to keep an open mind)

I really just want to say - we are all brothers here.
And there is no room for hate amongst we the people -as your constitution calls it .
We the people are all brothers because we have different agendas then those in control.

We must stand together and fight our goverments until peace is achieved around the world - this is the only way.

When I refused to join the army people called me "mishtamet" which means... like a varietion, of "Slacker" because I would not serve my country when it needed me.
Well to those people I say - if you all did the same, and the people we fight do the same - there would be no wars.

And this is the most important thing to realise, if we all refuse to fight, there will be no wars.

The only army worth fighting for - is the army of truth. Our weapons are our mouths and ears, and they are weapons of mass awakining.
We must awake all our brothers to the truth. that we are all one.



[edit on 30-1-2010 by freebourn]

This thread should seriously be deleted.
How disrespectful can you be to anything, it doesn't matter what nationality the medics came from, this is disrespectful to Haitians that were cured and healed by the medics.

I know that you know that these are false allegations, that these are lies invented by people like you and others to turn something that was so good in essence into evil by spreading rumors.
Those rumors are very harmful.
Do you even know anything about the activity that was going on heir by foreign medics?
The Israeli team helped hundreds of Haitian's a day.
The Israeli team consisted of the best field medics Israel could spare, just to help the Haitians in need.
The Israeli team was on the spot 2 and a half days after the quake struck.

If you somehow find Israels actions in Haiti negative in anyway, I really feel sorry for you for not being able to recognize pure good and philanthropy when it its sitting right in your face.

Originally posted by freebourn
Hi guys,
This is my first post here.
I usually just read what you guys post and settle for that, but after I saw this thread I had to register and leave my response.


THIS IS TOTAL BULL

This is totally iluminati disinfo bull.

I am Israeli, I live in Israeli, and I -DID NOT- join the IDF, I refused military service and went to jail for it.
But many of my friends are in the IDF, some in highly trained combat units, some even went to lebanon in the war few years back.

The thing is, that 80% of 18 year olds are in the army, alot of them medics, and all variety of jobs.

Older people - "Keva" people who sign to be in the army longer then 3 years are something like 30% of the people in the army.

Let me tell you, that if it was true, we would all know about it! people would speak out!

I was shocked to read here stuff like "Zionists blah blah" or "Khazar" WTF is all this bull#!

I mean, listen... I am wide awake, and I have opened my mind to accept almost anything, I know about aliens, about the iluminati, and all those F'D UP agendas, I have been researching this Ancient Astronaout theory from age 16 and its very interesting for me.
But you guys gotta understand this is total bull#. DISINFO!!!!!
TRYING TO MONGER HATE!!! AND FEAR!!!

What you are actually saying here - is that all my friends actually (and some of them got to kill and some of them got killed) harvested or witnessed harvesting of organs....

Actually the thoery is, that they do this in the post mortum autopsy.
Well, I do not doubt, that perhaps they did it to arab suicide bombers, it is possible, they used to have a drill to bury them with a Pig, so they wont get their 12 virgins in heaven, and that really deterred them from blowing up busses for a while, until UN said its unhumane or [snip].
And well to tell you the truth, if some a-hole blow up a bus full of kids, and one of his organs can save one of those kids life, then use it! [snip] him

BUT THE THING THAT PISSES ME OFF! IS SAYING THAT WE DID THIS IN HAITI!!!!! THIS IS TOTAL DISINFO - and this is coming from somone who lives here.


WHY WOULD WE MAKE A COLLECTION OF ORGANS??
we are only 6 milion people, we dont need so many.
do you really think its logical????


and about all the comments that "Khzar" Jews and all that....
I have no Idea what the hell you are talking about...............
Some jews come from europe&russia, we call them "Ashkenazi"
Some jews come from Africa (Mainly morroco / some from ethiopia) we call them "Mizrahi", my parents were both born in Morroco, does that make me a Zionist Khazar who plans to take over the world and steal organs all the way to the elite??

Dudes, you gotta understand.
Hate against any culture is wrong!!!!!!!
And this is what this disinfo is doing,
causing hate between people.
The goverment is our enemy!!!!!!!
Not you and me,
you and me are the same.

I have no hate for the american people > Although your goverment sucks.
I have no hate for the arab / gaza / iranian people, and the last thing I wish for is a war.
The only thing I hate > Is goverments who control every aspect of our lives, and sends us to wars we really dont need to care about.


Anyway. Hi.
Thanks for reading what I have to say.






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Man I wished I've posted that in the same way, this is the truth, Israel did not harvest organs in Haiti and anyone who would accuse us as doing so is incompetent about their country's relief aid or the size of their whatever..
[edit on 30-1-2010 by 12m8keall2c]

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That’s all fine and dandy that you feel that way Noam. However the truth remains you don’t personally know who is on that medical team. You also don’t know who any one of those individuals might be affiliated or associated with in Israel’s lucrative underground Organ Trafficking Ring.

That hardcore criminal elements within the Jewish Mafia could have compromised any number of those surgeons, and its absurd to suggest there is no such thing as the Jewish Mafia as its roots through things like Murder Inc and Myer Lansky date back as far as the Italian Mafia.

The candid admission by a former IDF General that illegal organ harvesting has taken place in the past amongst the Palestinians certainly leaves a reasonable cloud of suspicion.

So too does the recent arrest in New Jersey of a Rabbi who offered to arrange for the sale of an illegal organ to the FBI and the subsequent investigation that the Rabbi had strong ties to money laundering enterprises in Israel.

While nothing has been proved in the case of Haiti as of yet, it has been both proved and admitted that at times the IDF has been involved and the Jewish Syndicate has been involved.

With the fees for harvesting a organ ranging from ten to twenty thousand dollars that’s a lot of temptation for a surgeon working in conditions of chaos and confusion to harvest and steal an organ here and there.

I doubt it is an officially sanctioned operation, or that the team was dispatched for the sole purpose of organ retrieval but I would not rule out that at least one or not more of the doctors on that team would have sought out that team for the possibilities of harvesting an organ.

From time immortal one of the chief reasons in fact it used to be almost the only reason people joined the military was for the spoils of war.

Military personnel are notoriously underpaid and there are always enterprising people in the military, everyone’s military looking to make a buck on the side through the black market. They do this by hording and selling misappropriated military supplies in short demand to other soldiers, they do this by running and smuggling drugs in and out of war zones, they do this by stealing civilian property and fencing it.

Harvesting organs would fall into that stealing civilian property and fencing it. Doctors everywhere are not always known for their integrity; in fact many charge huge fees that make their actual efforts in time and effort pale in comparison. In fact most doctors are mercenary in disposition, pay me what I want, pay me handsomely and these hands shall heal you. Fail to pay me, or if you can’t pay me I will let you die or suffer.

Not all doctors are like that but many are.

The temptations for a doctor dealing with the high costs of lifestyle and practice to pocket 10,000 to 20,000 on the side like that especially in those kinds of poorly monitored situations where patients flow in and out with no known relatives or next of kin would be enormous.

Spreading around a little cash to an air transport officer to work out the shipment and delivery would be easy as child’s play to find a enlisted man or fellow officer who just had to carry a cooler onboard a flight for 500.00 or 1,000.00 or maybe just as cheaply as a prescription for his favorite pain medication.

No one tends to ask too many questions or place much scrutiny on military personnel in uniform as they come and go.

After all their job is to protect and serve us and we automatically assume that is just what they are doing.

Would the scuttle butt of a small clique of officers and a few enlisted men carrying out this traffic reach on down the lines to everyone, when these people know that they are involved in an effort to make illegal undeclared cash on the side?

No it really wouldn’t, and it’s naïve to think just because you have no knowledge of it simply because you served in the IDF and know many other people who have.

The long and short of it is Zionist Israel, and the Jewish Mafia has developed a bad reputation when it comes to organ trafficking. Israel is considered by Interpol to be ground zero in the illegal organ trade.

No amount of indignation or putting people on your respected foes list is going to change that or lift that cloud of suspicion.

The Haitians are additionally an undereducated and highly superstitious people and in such cultures rumors can spread like wildfire where gossip and idle chitchat is about the only thing most people have to do all day.

At best its not happening at all but the Zionist’s reputation for bad and unfair policies is simply beginning to precede Israelis and Jews everywhere, I would take that up with the criminals who make those decisions.

If that’s the case that it isn’t happening then it’s just the age old adage of ‘No good deed goes unpunished’.

However there obviously is some scrutiny on the Israelis because of that arguably deserved reputation based on revelations of illegal organ harvesting in the past by the IDF and the present by members of the Jewish Mafia.

If it is found out to be fact, well facts are facts and that is a fact jack!

I think thou does protest to much!


[edit on 30/1/10 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]

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Good post, Traveler. I couldn't put it any better myself. For all of those that are denying that Israel and/or Jews have been trafficking in organs, I say...

Guys, give it up ! They have been caught red handed doing it and the media (for once doing their jobs) has already reported it. I refer you to the organ trafficking ring recently busted and exposed in New York City and New Jersey.

Ok I see a lot of Jews here trying to defend by saying lets have peace.

But what does the book you worship say?

Straight Out of the JUDAISM Babylonian Talmud

It is allowed to cheat a gentile and take usury of him (Baba Mezia 6la, Abhodah Zarah 54a).

The goyim are regarded as unclean (Schabbath L45b. Abhodah Zarah 22b)

It is not allowed to rob a brother Jew, but to rob a gentile is allowed (Baba Mezia 61a Sanherlrin 57a)

The goyim are not like men but are as animals (Kerithuth 6b).

The seed of a goy is worth the samc as that of a beast (Kethuboth 3b; Baba Mecia 174,6).

A Jew must not enler the home of a Christian (Gittin 62a).

The goyim are not to be cured or helped when sick, even for money (Abodah Zarah Z7b; Iore Dea 1'58,1').

It is permitted to deceive a goy (Babha Kama !13b) Jews must try to deceive Christians (Zohar I,1'60a).

A Jew may lie and perjure himself to condemn a Christian (Babha Kama I l3a- I 13b).

A Jew shall not do injury to other Jews, but the law does not prohibit injury to a goy (lulishna Sanhedryn 57).

Those who do good to the goyim . . . will not rise from the dead (Zohar 1',25b).

All the festivals of the followers of Jesus are forbidden, and we must conduct ourselves towards them as we would towards idolaters (Abodah Zarah 2a,78c).

Do not save a goy in danger of death (Hilkkoth Akum' XX'1')

When a Jew and a goy come to court, you must absolve the Jew and take his side as far as possible according to Jewish law. If however, the Jew can be absolved according to gentile law, absolve him (Babha Kama 773a).

A Jew may keep anything he finds belonging to the Akum [goyim], to return it is a sin (Choschem Ham 266'1)


This is great guys, we should really trust everything you say without question.


[edit on 30-1-2010 by EndOfTheWorld7]

Oh guys this is great stuff here, you guys are all for peace right?

Are you guys Jewish? or not? this is from your book.


JUDAISM FROM THE TALMUD

Approves of Sodomy: "If one
committed sodomy with a child of
less than nine years, no guilt is
incurred" (Sanhedrin 5 4b)

Approves of Child Sacrifice to Idols: "He who gives of his seed
to Molech incurs no punishment"
(Sanhedin 64a)

Cursing Parents Allowed: "One
who curses his parents isn't punished
unless he curses them by
Divine name" (Sanhedrin 66a)

Allows Enchanting: "It is permitted
to consult by a charm the
spirits of oil and eggs, and make
incantations" (Sanhedrin 1.07a)

Bestiality Condoned: "Women
having intercourse with a beast
can marry a priest, the act is but
a mere wound" (Yebamoth 59b)

Harlotry Lawful "A harlot's hire
is permitted, for what the woman
has received is legally a gift"
(Abodah Zarah 62b-63a)

Blasphemy Allowed: "One can
revile the Divine Name if
mentally applying it to some
other object" (Sazhedin 65a-b)

Not required to Keep Vows: One
may declare: "Every vow which I
may make in the future shall be
null" (Nedarim 23 a-23b)

Murder Condoned: "If ten men
smote a man with ten staves and
he died, they are exempt from
punishment" (Sanhedrin 18a)




THE BIBLE Bible from real Israelites, not Khazars / Amalekites (sorry but the real Israelites are not white)

Prohibits Sodomy:"Thou shall
not lie with mankind, as with
womankind: it is abomination"
(Lev. 18:22)

Prohibits Child Sacrifice to Idols: "Whoever gives any of his
seed to Molech: he shall surely be
put to death" (Lev . 20:2) .

Cursing Parents Prohibited: "He
that curses his father or mother,
shall be put to death" (Exod.
2!:17, Mutt 15i4).

Disallows Enchanting: "None of
you shall be an enchanter or a
charmer, or consulter with familiar
spirits" (De&t. 18:10-11).

Bestiality Condemned: "You
shall not lie with any beast, nor
shall any woman stand before a
beast to lie with lt" (Lev.18-23).

Harlotry Unlawful: "She that
plays the whore in her father's
house shall be put to death.
(Deuteronomy 22.2I)

Blasphemy Punishable: He that
blasphemes the name of the
LORD shall surely be put to
death" (Leviticus 24 :1 6)

Murder Forbilden: "He that
smites a man with a stave so he
dies, he is a murderer and shall be
put to death" (Num. 35:18)



[edit on 30-1-2010 by EndOfTheWorld7]

These Khazars will do absolutely anything for money. They are the only group of people in Haiti with a record of illegal organ harvesting, we would be dunce to assume it is anyone else but them. They created the porn, narcotic, slavery industries. I am not even shocked that they are behind this. These people should be expelled from society.

P.S. - Don't trust these Khazars who are asking for brotherhood. Their Talmud tells them to lie to us in order to deceive. Christians, don't be afraid to condemn them. They are not the real Jews. They like to bring up the Yemeni and Ethiopian Jews as some sort of validation that they aren't anti-humanists, but you should see how these Khazars treat those real Jews.

[edit on 30-1-2010 by TSawyer]

Originally posted by EndOfTheWorld7
Oh guys this is great stuff here, you guys are all for peace right?

Are you guys Jewish? or not? this is from your book.


JUDAISM FROM THE TALMUD

Approves of Sodomy: "If one
committed sodomy with a child of
less than nine years, no guilt is
incurred" (Sanhedrin 5 4b)

Approves of Child Sacrifice to Idols: "He who gives of his seed
to Molech incurs no punishment"
(Sanhedin 64a)

Cursing Parents Allowed: "One
who curses his parents isn't punished
unless he curses them by
Divine name" (Sanhedrin 66a)

Allows Enchanting: "It is permitted
to consult by a charm the
spirits of oil and eggs, and make
incantations" (Sanhedrin 1.07a)

Bestiality Condoned: "Women
having intercourse with a beast
can marry a priest, the act is but
a mere wound" (Yebamoth 59b)

Harlotry Lawful "A harlot's hire
is permitted, for what the woman
has received is legally a gift"
(Abodah Zarah 62b-63a)

Blasphemy Allowed: "One can
revile the Divine Name if
mentally applying it to some
other object" (Sazhedin 65a-b)


..........

Okay, look,
I have no idea where youre getting all this stuff, but I have the zohar in my house and i'll check it out.

As I said, I am not a religious man, but I know my fellow country men,
and I know, that any religious person, would not feel the things you quoted as true, and he will not feel free to rape children and all of that...

I can promise you this, if you go to any rabbi, and ask him about these quotes you gave, I can assure you he will set you streight as to what we beleive.

But please keep an open mind as to what are you sources, because I believe they are false dis-information ment to forment hate.

Just the fact the hebrew words are translated to a different language is an issue, cannot you see this? I can interpret something in my own language very differently then you may.

And the talmud obviously explains that. You can look at a sentence in one way, and from a different prespective it symbolises something totally different.

Again, I am not some Talmud expert or scholar. I just know, since many in my family are very very very religious, and some study the talmud and zohar, they do not agree with these things at all.

And I do have an open mind regarding these things. I have allways looked for the conspiracy here at home and not being able to put my finger on it.
And yes, there are things that are defintly wrong with our goverment / religion. but that applies to every culture and religion.

What we are trying to convey here:

- We the people of Israel, are not like that.
We do not believe these things are codes to which we live by.
And to accuse us of such things is down right evil.
No idea where you are getting all these stuff but to me - as an israeli looks like a stupid hoax.

and yeah, sometimes I hear hardcore jews say stuff like that, that we are better then the "goyim", which again, I say it is total bull, and the only thing it is ment to convey, is a sence of patriotism.

We are all the same, and have the same blood in our vains.
We do not aprove or rape of children if that is what you think.
And certinly if it was made fact that we steal peoples organs, there would be a full-on riot here. because the ordinary person will never approve of this.

So check your sources buddy, something does not look right to me.

And whats with all the babylonian stuff you mention?? I dont get that...

Its is my opinion that judisem is based on the egyptian religion.
Same as christianity.
Isis Ra and the Elohim, the divine person.
Israel.
We are only "special" because we figured out the secrets of the universe.
Tetrahedronal physics.
(again, just my own opinion)
Thats it.



Oh and by the way.
To put a non-jewish persons organ in a jewish persons body, is like spitting in gods face to jews.

reply to post by freebourn


"if you go to any rabbi, and ask him about these quotes you gave"

He would lie to me....

Just as the Talmud asks you Khazars to do to inquiring Goy.

You're not fooling anyone, son.

Zionism is finished.
And to think I grew up believing you people were the light of the world.

[edit on 30-1-2010 by TSawyer]

Originally posted by TSawyer
These Khazars will do absolutely anything for money. They are the only group of people in Haiti with a record of illegal organ harvesting, we would be dunce to assume it is anyone else but them. They created the porn, narcotic, slavery industries. I am not even shocked that they are behind this. These people should be expelled from society.

P.S. - Don't trust these Khazars who are asking for brotherhood. Their Talmud tells them to lie to us in order to deceive. Christians, don't be afraid to condemn them. They are not the real Jews. They like to bring up the Yemeni and Ethiopian Jews as some sort of validation that they aren't anti-humanists, but you should see how these Khazars treat those real Jews.

[edit on 30-1-2010 by TSawyer]

Would you please explain what the hell is this "Khazar" I see all over the place??
By the way dude, I think you really have to take a look about what you are saying.

I dont care about all this @*&(!)^
What I care about, is to stop this foolish hatred I see all over for no reason!

It is never the answer.
We must stop this duality.
We are not two, we are one.
This you must understand.

Clean you heart of hate, do your self some good.

Your post really frustrates me that some people actually believe these stuff............................

Originally posted by TSawyer
reply to post by freebourn

 

"if you go to any rabbi, and ask him about these quotes you gave"

He would lie to me....

Just as the Talmud asks you Khazars to do to inquiring Goy.

You're not fooling anyone, son.

Zionism is finished.
And to think I grew up believing you people were the light of the world.

[edit on 30-1-2010 by TSawyer]

Okay!

THAN I WILL REVEAL MY TRUE SELF!

I AM HERE TO TAKE OVER THE WORLD!!! AND STEAL YOUR ORGANS!!
YOU ARE ALL LESSER PEOPLE AND ZIONIZM WILL CONTROL THE WORLD!!

THE ISRAELI GOVERMENT IS PAYING ME TO POST HERE

is this what you want to hear?

believe what you want.

I truly want peace and brethrenship between mankind.
But I guess some people are just blind, and believe what they want to beleive.

I'm done with this post.

Have fun

reply to post by freebourn


""Khazar" I see all over the place?"

You Ashkenazis are Khazars. Not Hebrews. You don't belong in Palestine. Clear enough for you?

"foolish hatred I see all over for no reason!"

Your people should have thought of that before you slaughtered the world in the process of your illegitimate movement called Zionism.

"we are one."
Now that the tables have turned, of course! But a minute ago I was a pig goy.

"Clean you heart of hate"

Clean Palestine of your illegitimate presence.

"frustrates me that some people actually believe these"

What frustrates me is that you have been lied to, into believing you have a right to Palestine, or that you are better than any other human being (Talmud).

Back on topic, again, this is a crying shame and only makes me more dissatisfied with Zionism. I hope the IDF are immediately expelled from Haiti.

Originally posted by freebourn

Originally posted by TSawyer
These Khazars will do absolutely anything for money. They are the only group of people in Haiti with a record of illegal organ harvesting, we would be dunce to assume it is anyone else but them. They created the porn, narcotic, slavery industries. I am not even shocked that they are behind this. These people should be expelled from society.

P.S. - Don't trust these Khazars who are asking for brotherhood. Their Talmud tells them to lie to us in order to deceive. Christians, don't be afraid to condemn them. They are not the real Jews. They like to bring up the Yemeni and Ethiopian Jews as some sort of validation that they aren't anti-humanists, but you should see how these Khazars treat those real Jews.

[edit on 30-1-2010 by TSawyer]

Would you please explain what the hell is this "Khazar" I see all over the place??
By the way dude, I think you really have to take a look about what you are saying.

I dont care about all this @*&(!)^
What I care about, is to stop this foolish hatred I see all over for no reason!

It is never the answer.
We must stop this duality.
We are not two, we are one.
This you must understand.

Clean you heart of hate, do your self some good.

Your post really frustrates me that some people actually believe these stuff............................

Are you really so uninformed that you are unaware of your own history ? Or is it that you just want us to think that you are ?

Tell you what, freebourn. Read these books and then comment, OK ?

1. The Thirteenth Tribe by Arthur Koestler.
2. The Truth About Khazars by Benjamin Freedman.
3. The Invention of the Jewish People by Schlomo Sand.

These Jewish authors tell it like it is. You don't have anything against Jewish authors, do you ?

[edit on 30-1-2010 by Longbob]

You Ashkenazis are Khazars. Not Hebrews. You don't belong in Palestine. Clear enough for you?

______________________

Ashkenazi are only 50% precent of israelis. I am not ashkenazi.
So you say, that because some jews come from russia or europe they have different agendas and different religion then the rest of us??


Your people should have thought of that before you slaughtered the world in the process of your illegitimate movement called Zionism.

_________________________________

To tell you truth, its hard for me to admit it, but we do perpatrate alot of crimes against the palestinian people.
We hurt them alot and this is truly the illuminati here at home as I said.
This is illuminati agenda to controll the middle east - nothing to do with religion.
This is why I do not want to live here any more and move to a different country.
I am sick of these wars and politics. I want peace for me and my children.
All of this does not mean you are correct with all the bull you quoted from the so called "talmud", perhaps from the iluminati version of the talmud.



Now that the tables have turned, of course! But a minute ago I was a pig goy.
_____________________


When did I call you a pig goy??
You are just trying to make us look bad again.


"Clean you heart of hate"

Clean Palestine of your illegitimate presence.

__________________

We have a right to be here.
We should take better care of them, give them a right to make their own coutnry, but that requires trust.
This issue is very complicated for a forigner to understand.
You must live here to understand.
There is defintly a room for change.
But you are still spewing garbage!





Anyway dude...... for real.... instead of spewing all this nonsence!
Take a flight to Israel, see if we are really like that.
Buy the talmud book, check it out if its really written there.

I am sure you will find a very different answer.

Okay now im really finished with this post lol

I can promise you this, if you go to any rabbi, and ask him about these quotes you gave, I can assure you he will set you streight as to what we beleive.

Here's a Rabbi telling the truth.

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There are two sides of Judaism one is the practice of the religion in benign ways like most Christians practice their religion in benign ways and most Muslims practice their religion in benign ways.

Yet there is an esoteric mystic side of Judaism that you are more apt to see Sephardic Jews practice than you are Ashkenazi Jews practice.

Most of it centers on the esoteric Kabala which is the ritual practice of occult Jewish Mysticism.

Mystic rituals, rites, talismans are all employed to commune with the spiritual world and to extort and control and bend powerful metaphysical forces.

One could argue this is a dark, perhaps even sinister practice, but the fact of he matter remains it is a practice.

Most Jews like most Christians are in fact slaves. Drop your pants if you are circumcised this is a mark of a Hebrew Slave. Make whatever medical excuse you want for it the essence of your manhood has nonetheless been desecrated and the flow of the electrical impulses of your body has been altered.

The practice of circumcision is explained away as being a sanitary benefit though many medical doctors say there is no real basis in reality for this. Yet the truth of circumcision is it started as a practice of marking Hebrew slaves.

At the time it was started by the Hebrews, they were actually known as the Habiru or Hapiri and they worshiped many G-ds and G-ds that they refused to name.

The Habiru were a wondering nomadic band of slave traders, mercenaries, pirates, kidnappers, skilled artisan and craftsmen and money lenders and political advisors that wondered in and out of every kingdom from the Mesopotamia Delta to the Brooks of Egypt always as a separate but equal people.

In other words pretty much the same as the Jews in Diaspora and post Diaspora have always behaved as separate but equal people.

But the truth is and the point is most of them are in fact slaves themselves and have been marked as slaves by the Pharisees.

The knowledge that is shared with a slave is not the same knowledge that is shared with the free and the masters.

Much of Talmudic law does not apply to slaves whether they are Jewish slaves or other. Those laws are meant for the free Hebrew and the Masters and part of those laws condones the practice of lying to and deceiving slaves including the Hebrew slaves.

The truth is whether it is Judaism or Catholicism or Islam how the priestly and free class practices it and what they know about it is very different than what the laity and congregants of the slave class know about it and how they practice it.

The laity and the congregants are simply a tool and a source of mystic energy and metaphysical power to tap into by the Rabbinical and Priestly class who practice arcane rites before the congregants and laity who have no idea what those arcane and esoteric occult rites are really manifesting or how their own metaphysical power is being tapped into and drained through the ritual.

The average Jew like the average Christian and the average Muslim are in fact all slaves, all dupes, and all victims lied to 100% of the time with nary a one of them having any clue about what’s really transpiring in their names and at their expense and how and why.

If you are in fact a slave, marked as a slave, and chattel no master or free person or Rabbi, Priest or Imam is going to tell you the truth. They are going to tell you what you want to hear which is what you have always been told because their power is actually knowledge, the knowledge of knowing what is going on at the top levels and sometimes the top level of the pyramid that they contrive to perennially keep you enslaved below.

In fact part of how they keep us enslaved is to exploit the subtle differences and inherent rivalries between the slaves of Judaism, the slaves of Christianity, and the slaves of Islam who have all been taught to take personal pride in their religion and ways.

The truth is it’s the most self defeating thing in the world when Jews, Christians and Muslims fight amongst themselves for these petty reasons.

We should all be fighting for our freedom from the people at the top of the pyramid secret power structures that have enslaved us with lies and false knowledge and not fighting nor defending ourselves to one another.

Our first obligation as human beings should be to get out of bondage.

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"Buy the talmud book"

They don't sell it. It's not for pig goys like me to read.

" We have a right to be here."

It was Europeans and Khazars joining in union to create the "State of Israel", God didn't make it, the true Hebrews don't need it. Saying that you have the right to be there is that Europeans and Khazars have the right to declare states overriding indigenous populations. You are an accomplice of imperialism, then? Shame on you. Religiously, you would know that this state is a fraud. Even orthodox "Jews" of Khazar extraction know that this is a phony state and God is against it. You better get out, repent, because it will be destroyed. Blood has defiled the land. More true Hebrews have been killed in the land than their Khazar murderers enjoying the land today. The sin is large in proportion and karma will redistribute it equally.

"We should take better care of them, give them a right to make their own coutnry, but that requires trust."

Are you kidding me or what? You came into their land and now they need to trust you in order to exist? Backward logic, that's why Zionism churns out so many "anti-Semites" everyday. I wonder when you'll start talking about the holocaust, now that your options are becoming few.

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Why do you like your country so much when they either force you into the military or jail you?

Originally posted by tooo many pills
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Why do you like your country so much when they either force you into the military or jail you?

I dont love my country.
I love my country men.
I love all fellow human beings.
All of our goverments are our enemies, not each other.
They are keeping us occupied in hating each other.

What I dont like - Is people talking trash out of pure ignorance.
Just showed me you people know nothing about Israeli culture and Israeli people.

And I am sorry for that.
You should really travel more often.


I do not believe in war.
I do not feel any sence of patriotism to my country.

I am not a citizen of Israel, I am a citizen of earth.
And so are you.

I want peace in my life, and I will not hold a gun against someone else because some old guy told me to.


What you guys dont understand.. Is that they way is never to hate.

And this is what you have been led to doing.
To hate.
You are all wrong.

And one day you will find the true path.
The path that your christ told you about.
The path that Islam speaks about
The path the Judism speaks about.

You will begin to see, that all the stuff you are speaking of is the so called Neo-religion.

They took these religions and made them enemies to each other.

But all religions are the same.

Unfortunately it was made to an instrument to destroy spirituality, not to increase it.
This is waht I call neo-religion.

This is what the iluminati did to religions hundreds of years ago.