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Originally posted by autowrench
reply to post by letthereaderunderstand
Starred and flagged...letthereaderunderstand, what can I say? Great article, and even greater research. This goes along with a theory I have often thought of. Follow along here...the ancients seems to have know a lot more about the planets in our system. I think that at time, there was water rings around Earth, and they collapsed, causing the great flood. What do you think?
Originally posted by OzWeatherman
Well, its the closest thing to fact that we know of. As of yet, you have not shown any logical theory to show why the planets were closer to earth than these scientists, nor have you shown any counter theory to that statement. Hardly ther actions of someone with an IQ of 160
Actually, as you have again proven you know nothing of the differences between the formations of stars and planets.
Im going to drop the water ice argument for now, as you clearly cant see that the article stated water being released into space, and the fact that the minute traces of water currently on Saturn exist as ice
You have taken the term layered out of context, again there is no point in explaining why you are wrong. Seeing as you claim to have an IQ of 160, you should be smart enough to figure out whta context I was using
No, this proves that the gases on Saturn quickly cooled and liquefied as its location from the sun (and Earth) was vast.
Someone who cant grasp that the h2o molecule has the common name "water" no matter which state it happens to be in at the time has no right telling others to educate themselves. Especially someone in a field that is wrong 99% of the time.
99% wrong, where's that quote from?
Oh and due to what I do for a living, I think I can grasp the term water and what conditions need to be for it to be called ice, super cooled etc. But you would know that, having an IQ of 160 and all
Originally posted by Phage
Utter nonsense.
Saturn was not in a different orbit 12,500 years ago.
If it had been close enough for its rings to contact Earth it would have severely affected Earth's orbit. Rather than our nice circular orbit Earth would be have been thrown into a wild ellipse, in all probability it would have been ejected from the Solar System all together.
Originally posted by Phage
Utter nonsense.
Saturn was not in a different orbit 12,500 years ago.
If it had been close enough for its rings to contact Earth it would have severely affected Earth's orbit. Rather than our nice circular orbit Earth would be have been thrown into a wild ellipse, in all probability it would have been ejected from the Solar System all together.
Originally posted by watcher73
The closest thing to fact hardly makes it one. I mean i could say you are the closest thing to a transvestite on ATS, would that make you one?
Apart from the fundamental inquiry in to the nature of scientific fact, there remain the practical and social considerations of how fact is investigated, established, and substantiated through the proper application of the scientific method. Scientific facts are generally believed to be independent of the observer: no matter who performs a scientific experiment, all observers will agree on the outcome. In addition to these considerations, there are the social and institutional measures, such as peer review and accreditation, that are intended to promote factual accuracy (among other interests) in scientific study
You just proved that you dont know the difference between a gas giant and a gas giant undergoing fusion.
Now you just sound like a fundamentalist xtian.
How did it heat up so vastly in the first place? Are you going to fall back on the supernova waves?
From me, you just quoted me saying it. Duh?
But hey give us some more of what you "know" so I can snip everything but the first 2 words to prove you wrong yet again.
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by watcher73
Probably ejected from the Solar System.
Definitely our orbit would be highly elliptical.
phet.colorado.edu...
Originally posted by OzWeatherman
You are taking the term "fact" out of science context
Yeah, great intellectual reply
Well, conmsidering the definition of scientific fact, and the earlier external quote, then this is accepted fact. Its not like you have coem up with anything better
Oh, so its make believe.
How can you come up with figures when you cant even supply your own theories or disprove the current accepted ones?
You really do have an ego complex dont you. Making figures up with no supporting evidence and claiming I am wrong by simply posting that im incorrect.
Careful otherwise the mass of your ego might achieve stellar nucleosynthesis, turning your head into a glowing ball of plasma
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by watcher73
Slighty. Eccentricity = 0.016710219
I said highly elliptical.
Pluto is considered highly elliptical (15x Earth)
Eccentricity = 0.24880766
[edit on 1/27/2010 by Phage]
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by letthereaderunderstand
Earth's orbit is slightly elliptical. That diagram exaggerates the eccentricity.
All myths are based on truth? Winged horses existed? The Sun is pulled by a chariot across the sky? A giant held the sky up on his shoulders? Myths are not based on truth, they are based on attempts to explain what was then unexplainable. For the most part, they did a very poor job but the stories can be kind of cool.
[edit on 1/27/2010 by Phage]
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by watcher73
About the only thing that can circularize an eccentric orbit would be tidal forces. The tidal forces of the Sun on Earth are slight. An orbit of the eccentricity we are talking about (far greater than that of Pluto) would take millions or billions of years to circularize, not 12,000. Those same forces also lead to tidal locking. We are not tidally locked with the Sun.
Play with that simulator, see what happens when you place a large "planet" near the smaller one.
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by watcher73
Sure I can. It's easy to make up.
What causes a solar eclipse? Oh, that's easy. A space dragon eats the Sun then pukes it back out.