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reply posted on 28-1-2010 @ 11:51 AM by bsbray11
Originally posted by miriam0566
5.Christianity breeds arrogance, a chosen-people mentality


lol what if they are a chosen people?


So you believe you are better than non-Christians because of your religion.


again, big difference between fake and real christians


You all can't decide what is "fake" or "real" even amongst yourselves. That says something by itself. And you all use the same evidence against each other and all think you are justified because of it: scripture.

17.Christianity is homophobic


whole other thread




18.The Bible is not a reliable guide to Christ's teachings


sorry to break it to you, but the bible is the ONLY guide to christ's teachings.


Nope. There are other writings from the same time attributed to him that were banned from the Bible by later councils that decided what went in and what didn't.

19.The Bible is riddled with contradictions


sorry, but BS


Here is a whole website for you:

www.infidels.org...

Some examples:

War or Peace?

EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name.

ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen. ...


Is Jesus equal to or lesser than?

JOH 10:30 I and my Father are one.

JOH 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I. ...


Which first--beasts or man?

GEN 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
GEN 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

GEN 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.
GEN 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.


The website goes on and on. Denying there are contradictions is just being ignorant of the various (obviously contradictory) teachings of the Bible. Remember these people also believed the Sun revolved around the Earth, or even more primitive concepts of how that all actually works.

20.Christianity borrowed its central myths and ceremonies from other ancient religions


pure assumption


Again look up Upnapishtim, for example, which is an earlier version of Noah. And that is only one example. The entirety of Genesis is basically a re-write of Sumerian myths, replacing multiple deities with only one. Which is why the Hebrew version still says 'man has become like us', which is the exact same in the earlier Sumerian version when the gods are talking about wiping out civilization, but the god Enki gives Upnapishtim (Noah) a head's up, and he loads a boat with oxen, etc.


reply posted on 31-1-2010 @ 09:39 AM by Matthew Dark
reply to post by Polynomial C



Oi!
I posted that '20 Reasons...' thing like six times up here!
Well, it's good that other people have found it too.
I believe that it's all true, and there's tons of empirical evidence and dead bodies to prove it.


reply posted on 31-1-2010 @ 11:52 PM by jose11
reply to post by Polynomial C



Not Christianity but Christendom is the source of the things you've listed.



reply posted on 8-2-2010 @ 10:08 PM by DeathShield
1.Christianity is based on fear

Really? I'm not afraid of god. I'm more afraid of people.

2.Christianity preys on the innocent

How did they come to this conclusion? Last time i checked i am not innocent

3.Christianity is based on dishonesty

Atheism is based on intellectual dishonesty. How are you so sure there is no god of any sort?

4.Christianity is extremely egocentric
What? How did they determine this ? Did they go up to priests and say "hey are you egocentric?" i've met tons of christians with no ego at all.

5.Christianity breeds arrogance, a chosen-people mentality

By that logic atheism and "science" breed an intellectual superiority complex. Any honest christian, like any honest atheist does not consider themselves superior to anyone of any faith. We all sin , some more than others.

6.Christianity breeds authoritarianism
Funny because i am a libertarian and socially liberal and i believe that yhwh is the one true god

7.Christianity is cruel

So is science, and evolution. Atom bombs are not friendly nor is survival of the fittest.

8.Christianity is anti-intellectual, anti-scientific
Really? Answersingenesis.org and god and science.org would disagree. Also i fully embrace evolution and the big bang theory and my wife is attending med-school.

9.Christianity has a morbid, unhealthy preoccupation with sex

Which is why the states with a signifcant catholic population are also the ones most in favor of gay unions. Also there are christian churches that not only hold but endorse gay weddings.

10.Christianity produces sexual misery
LMAO, wow that is some hardcore cherrypicking of data. Who did they interview? shakers? My sex life is freaking amazing and is technically illegal in some states.

11.Christianity has an exceedingly narrow, legalistic view of morality
Really? Because last time i checked there were many conflicting views on what is and is not moral amongst christians as a whole.

12. Christianity encourages acceptance of real evils while focusing on imaginary evils.
Uhhh, like what? Examples please.

13.Christianity depreciates the natural world
No, we are taught to revere the natural world. Gods work is all around us, we must appreciate it. There is beauty in this world beyond our comprehension. It is our duty as christians to preserve it and to understand it so that we may better understand god and ourselves.

14.Christianity models hierarchical, authoritarian organization
Didn't they just say that?
15.Christianity sanctions slavery

16.Christianity is misogynistic
My two best friends are women in fact for a long time all my friends were women
17.Christianity is homophobic
United church of christ and metropolitan community church Are quite the opposite of homophobic

18.The Bible is not a reliable guide to Christ's teachings

which is why a personal relationship with christ takes precedence over anything written in the bible.

19.The Bible is riddled with contradictions

Well duh, it was written by men. I wouldn't be surprised if 400 years from now our science books are regarded as contradictory

20.Christianity borrowed its central myths and ceremonies from other ancient religions

Good thing they were there to see the christians blatantly ripping it off and borrowing it.




I'm sorry but this article is vaguer than a grey colored speech on metaphysics. IT's as if they took arguments from an anti-atheist site and just switched out atheist for christian. No intellectually honest atheist or member of another faith should take this seriously.

edit: I forgot to finish my sentence on number 16

[edit on 8-2-2010 by DeathShield]
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