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Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by Lillydale
Obviously you are the one not getting it... and the more you laugh the dumber you look because you can't even understand it when it is being pointed at you....
wow...just wow... i wonder how much longer it wil take for her to get it....
BTW, I was born in a Communist country and experienced Communism, and Communist is NOT a code word for black man....
BTW, in case you didn't know, and you obviously didn't, the U.S.A. is a REPUBLIC.... Republican is an advocate of the Republic.
BTW, if you know someone who experienced Communism, and wasn't part of the Communist elitists, they will tell you what "Progressive" means... A Progressive is a Socialist or Communist who doesn't want to call himself/herself a Socialist or Communist. Although not all Liberals are completely Socialist, or Communist they do tend to advocate Socialist, and even Communist programs, and goals. But of course to them the word "Republican" is a bad word... Obviously they haven't read much about the history of the U.S., or even read the Constitution of the U.S.
[edit on 26-1-2010 by ElectricUniverse]
Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by Lillydale
Obviously you are the one not getting it... and the more you laugh the dumber you look because you can't even understand it when it is being pointed at you....
wow...just wow... i wonder how much longer it wil take for her to get it....
BTW, I was born in a Communist country and experienced Communism, and Communist is NOT a code word for black man....
BTW, in case you didn't know, and you obviously didn't, the U.S.A. is a REPUBLIC.... Republican is an advocate of the Republic.
BTW, if you know someone who experienced Communism, and wasn't part of the Communist elitists, they will tell you what "Progressive" means... A Progressive is a Socialist or Communist who doesn't want to call himself/herself a Socialist or Communist. Although not all Liberals are completely Socialist, or Communist they do tend to advocate Socialist, and even Communist programs, and goals. But of course to them the word "Republican" is a bad word... Obviously they haven't read much about the history of the U.S., or even read the Constitution of the U.S.
Originally posted by Renegade Bison
it's ironic really. to be progressive means to be forward thinking, for anyone to be described as progressive in a bad way seems pretty ludicrous considering there is so much wrong with our system that anyone who thinks that 'conserving the norm' so to speak has to be bordering on insanity. that said in republican speak progressive is just a blanket word to mean a bad person with nasty intentions, there's little more to it than that.
when people hear the word progressive they think of the words socialism and communism and we all know how the american mind is incapable of hearing such words without developing such hatred, anger and disliking of whatever is being proposed or whoever is talking (generally pretty much regardless of exactly WHAT is being said) that the term progressive is a perfect play on peoples emotions and it works incredibly well.
there was a thread recently about increasing government influence over what videos are allowed to be uploaded to the net in italy and one poor guy suggested that because the italians were increasing internet powers that they must surely be a communist country. for the record they couldn't be less relevant things to one another and one has no relationship or bearing with the other. yet just like with the word progressive communism and socialism are now words which in america simply mean bad or 'things which we don't like regardless of any blatant hypocrisy in our point of view.
and yes it was predictable that that guy in this thread was refusing to say exactly what progressive means. of course to do so would be to either admit that he doesnt know or that it doesn't have any legitimate meaning based on anything of any particular importance or validity.
naturally i come out of this post looking like a democrat, but whilst i think the democrats are the SLIGHTLY lesser of two evils, both parties are quite evidently working for the same people and couldn't care less about the people. people will argue against whichever is the opposition party regardless of the fact that their own party is at least similarly as bad if not worse and i find it oh so tiresome to hear people act as though both parties are so different. to put your system in perspective, if you took the 'progressive liberal communist socialist bla bla' democrats and put them here in the uk, they would be considered right wing and conservative. in fact even our conservative party is more liberal- and they're nothing remotely close to a socialist party, they are in fact the main opposition! as for our 'socialist' labour party, they are at best centre and can hardly be described as that left wing these days and yet they are 10x more socialist than the democrats in america without even being considered a socialist party over here anymore.
but what can you expect from an america so laden with propaganda? it makes the uk look good in comparison (thats REALLY saying something). republicans dont like it when obama takes away your rights, spends stupid money on endless wars tries to bail out banks with tax-payers money and works for corporate america and has the media on his side and is war mongering with a middleeast country- yet the EXACT same was true of bush. all obama is doing is furthering bushs presidency and chucking in a hugely watered down health care system to try and add at least something to distinguish him, when all it is is a watered down plan to suit big pharma. i am not saying that bush is worse because he did these bad things first, im saying that if you can't see that they are both just puppets furthering the lobbyist agenda and working for the corporations then you are missing something badly. consider how obama talked of major environmental policies and yet his watered down policies are a joke to behold.
whilst i prefer the democrats for being a TINY bit more liberal i am only disappointed in myself for believing that obama was going to change things and so will those be who think a republican will change it
Originally posted by russ212
I want to say that Republicans and Democrats are full of crap. Neither of them have the best interest of the nation or the people in heart.
That being said, those words make no sense. When I say Obama is a socialist, it has nothing to do with the color of his sking, but his agenda.
I also feel that the Dems. are the most racist party that we have in government. They believe that the black community is not capable of working and providing for themselves, so they try to buy them with additional welfare and food stamps.
Originally posted by tyranny22
You Fail.
Still haven't realized that there's no difference in Democrats or Republicans, huh? At least, not on the topics that REALLY matter.
I can't remember the last time gun rights or abortion affected my daily life. Yet, people still huddle around these ideas (and even argue about them, LMAO) as if they really effect their lives.
Meanwhile both parties are out there voting for corporate bailouts, their own wage increases, and cuts in health care and social security ... and numerous other things that ACTUALLY effect daily lives for thousands of Americans.
But, spending BILLIONS of dollars on wars of aggression in foreign countries just isn't as important to some people as whether or not same sex marriages are legal or illegal.
Get over it. The Red v Blue argument is dead. And good luck convincing anyone that Democrats or Republican are any better than the other.
No star. No flag.
[edit on 26-1-2010 by tyranny22]
Originally posted by desert
Actually, I was expecting to see Newt Gingrich's 1996 GOPAC memo
It's a serious list. Words to use when describing oneself or fellow Republicans, and words to use when describing opponents. Seems to have worked.
Interesting. "Activist" back then was positive .... I guess prior to "activist judges". Word usage certainly does change. And "greed" applied to the opponent.