Global Warming Data Shown Baseless and Politically Motivated

The scientist behind the bogus claim in a Nobel Prize-winning UN report that Himalayan glaciers will have melted by 2035 last night admitted it was included purely to put political pressure on world leaders. Dr Murari Lal also said he was well aware the statement, in the 2007 report by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), did not rest on peer-reviewed scientific research.

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Two months after “climategate” cast doubt on some of the science behind global warming, new questions are being raised about the reliability of a key temperature database, used by the United Nations and climate change scientists as proof of recent planetary warming. Two American researchers allege that U.S. government scientists have skewed global temperature trends by ignoring readings from thousands of local weather stations around the world, particularly those in colder altitudes and more northerly latitudes, such as Canada. NOAA uses “just one thermometer [for measuring] everything north of latitude 65 degrees.”

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I'll give you a S & F for this post.

To the people that for some reason still believe in human caused global warming:

Please do not allow yourselves to be the last people on the planet to admit that you have been duped.

Tell yourselves that you won't allow it to happen again and then just move on with your lives.

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So what? I this a free ticket to to cover the earth surface with poison and trash? And use the Air as dumpster? People like you make me angry.

The main point is that you can drive a senseless huge car?

Originally posted by cushycrux
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So what? I this a free ticket to to cover the earth surface with poison and trash? And use the Air as dumpster? People like you make me angry.

The main point is that you can drive a senseless huge car?

Obviously you view the world only one way. The POINT is that the government cannot get away with SENSELESS taxes on us that would do nothing for the environment. No where in his post did he state that it was his will or desire to do any of what you mentioned in your post. Inform yourself and try to channel your needless anger elsewhere.

Originally posted by cushycrux
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So what? I this a free ticket to to cover the earth surface with poison and trash? And use the Air as dumpster? People like you make me angry.

The main point is that you can drive a senseless huge car?

Who said anything of the sort? This is an admitted abuse of science for political reasons. Nobody claimed that all environmentalism is BS. In fact one of the things that angered me most about the whole CO2 propaganda campaign is how it stole the spotlight and overshadowed all other environmental issues.

The global elite co-opted the environmental movement for money and power. Focus your anger and frustration at them.

Originally posted by cushycrux
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So what? I this a free ticket to to cover the earth surface with poison and trash? And use the Air as dumpster? People like you make me angry.

The main point is that you can drive a senseless huge car?

No one - including in the post you quoted - said that.

I can see that this is going to be tough for you to break free from. They've obviously brainwashed you with the "fact" that human-caused global warming somehow equates to pollution of the planet. And for some people in some places, a larger vehicle actually makes (economic and ecological) sense as opposed to having to make multiple trips in a small vehicle to accomplish the same task. Remember, not everyone lives crammed on top of each other as you do in Europe and other parts of the world. I live in the western U.S. where shopping for food and other necessities can be a 40 mile or more round trip. Should I have one larger vehicle that meets my needs, or should the wife and I drive separate small vehicles to the same place at the same time to carry what we need? You do the math, OK?

The true fact is that this has been exposed as only a politically (and falsely) created connection for the purpose of making money for people like Al Gore and as a way of destroying the economies of the developed world.

Again, do yourself a huge favor and don't be the last person on the planet that finally gets it.



[edit on 1/25/2010 by centurion1211]

I think the real issue here is that for the second time in as many weeks, the daily fail has produced a 'baseless and politically motivated' trash article from David Rose on the issue of climate change.

For a site with users I often see wearing their harrumphing regalia over the 'MSM'(TM), you sure do buy their BS so easily.

Lal’s phone number is easy to find online, and I called him myself, even though it was after midnight in India (I hoped he was on travel), but he answered it immediately.

He said these were “the most vilest allegations” and denied that he ever made such assertions. He said “I didn’t put it [the 2035 claim] in to impress policymakers…. We reported the facts about science as we knew them and as was available in the literature.”

He told me:

Our role was to bring out the factual science. The fact is the IPCC has been very conservative.

dinky

And this is the same author and media source that also misrepresented Mojib Latif and the NSIDC:

Call Dr. Latif up and ask him if accepts the IPCC’s finding that, as he put it, most of the warming in the past century was very likely due to human causes. He had me reread the quotes attributed to him a number of times, asking twice, “those are direct quotes?” After I did, he said to me: “I don’t know what to do. They just make these things up.” I suggested asking reporters to read quotes back to him.

According to Latif, over a short time span, say, two decades, it’s hard to determine exactly what fraction of the temperature change is due to what cause, but Latif does not believe nor ever said what the Daily Mail suggests, which is that you can add those periods together and somehow negate the IPCC’s finding. His work simply “does not allow one to make any inferences about global warming.”

As NSIDC Director wrote me, “This is completely false. NSIDC has never made such a statement and we were never contacted by anyone from the Daily Mail. We hope that this is simply a case of very lazy journalism and nothing more.”

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[edit on 25-1-2010 by melatonin]

Climate chief was told of false glacier claims before Copenhagen

The chairman of the leading climate change watchdog was informed that claims about melting Himalayan glaciers were false before the Copenhagen summit, The Times has learnt. Rajendra Pachauri was told that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change assessment that the glaciers would disappear by 2035 was wrong, but he waited two months to correct it. He failed to act despite learning that the claim had been refuted by several leading glaciologists.

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its amazing what they can politicize... this whole thing disgusts and confuses me i dont even know what to think anymore... if global warming is a scam then what can u trust anymore if not the so called experts...

i always tell my skeptic close minded brilliant friend that even experts can lie and this is a perfect example of that...

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LOL

yet again i find you here acting out as the bits and peices of founding evidence for catastrophic global warming falls away and reveals the underlying fear mongering and just plain poor and unethical science.

face it.

as more and more facts come to light about the muffing of numbers to show false evidence in order to obtain grants and gain political backing, we will finally see more and more colleges and universities stop putting the lid on factual papers and research with evidence against global warming. as of now they continue to muzzle such research to continue to receive grant monies so that thier establishments stay fat on political and company dollars.

gallileo stood in the face of adversity and popular belief to not only shed light on basic and founding principals of physics, but also correct the errors in other systems. he was laughed at and persecuted and fired, but his steadfastness and dedication to fact in the face of such adversity should be a testament to his honor, and an example for us all.

stop the fear mongering, and refresh the talent of the climate commite!

We all know it's a hoax, it's come out as a hoax, and yet this topic seemingly will not die from the brainwashed people out there that still think that human beings can adversely effect the ENTIRE WORLD'S ATMOSPHERE in less than 110 years. The OP is right about his assertions. This entire thing was politically motivated, and in fact, Al Gore has a 51% stake in a start up company in Northern California that is supposed to be making software and hardware to regulate, monitor, and control the amount of CO2 emissions coming out of any factory. The price tag on such a venture you ask? Roughly $25,000 for the software and at least another $1,000,000 for the monitoring hardware. If this Cap and Trade agreement ever comes to fruition, then guess who makes a $hitload of money?

I'm glad there are less and less near sighted bloviators out there than there are people that actually do the research and know what is really going on. And yes, bloviator is a real word, and yes, it was on my word of the day calendar.

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THE GREAT CLIMATE CHANGE RETREAT
Professor Phil Jones, who is at the centre of the “Climategate” affair, conceded that there has been no “statistically significant” rise in temperatures since 1995.

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People must understand that this whole Gorebal Warming thing was an attempt to place economic restraints on every country but mainly the United States because they are the current global leaders. This is all an attempt to take down the United States by the Leftists, Radical Leftists, International Socialists, Communists, etc. Anybody wanting to hold back the United States is obviously not on our side. We should arrest Al Gore for pulling this stunt and force him to give back all the money he swindled. I can't believe anybody fell for this Chicken Little idea. I did not believe it for one moment.

Originally posted by centurion1211
I'll give you a S & F for this post.

To the people that for some reason still believe in human caused global warming:

Please do not allow yourselves to be the last people on the planet to admit that you have been duped.

Tell yourselves that you won't allow it to happen again and then just move on with your lives.

Centurion, a lot of people don't care about the truth when it comes to manmade global warming. It has moved from science to a religion for them. Those who kneel at the alter of Al Gore & IPCC will never admit that their idols lied to them. Never.

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Climate scientists withdraw journal claims of rising sea levels

Scientists have been forced to withdraw a study on projected sea level rise due to global warming after finding mistakes that undermined the findings.
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Announcing the formal retraction of the paper from the journal, Siddall said: "It's one of those things that happens. People make mistakes and mistakes happen in science." He said there were two separate technical mistakes in the paper, which were pointed out by other scientists after it was published. A formal retraction was required, rather than a correction, because the errors undermined the study's conclusion.

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