Originally posted by Arcane Demesne
Originally posted by Kailassa
And what about mothers who are deserted, who are widows, or who have abusive husbands?
This is a sad and unfortunate event in humanity, and any abusive husband should be taught a lesson. A very long lasting one.
My husband turned mean when we learned out 2 sons were handicapped, so he kept trying to injure and even kill them. So I had to leave him, and became
a single mother with 3 little kids. As 2 were handicapped I couldn't work, but that was no tragedy because I could get a single parent pension.
Despite rumours of this pension being extravagantly generous, I could not afford heating, and had to burn collected rubbish for warmth.
This is a heart-wrenching story, and I'm sure there are many more like it. But at every turn, there are friends, family and neighbors. Even
charity's. Although, in this day in age, when your friends, family, neighbors and would be wealthy helpers are taxed into oblivion (anywhere between
25%-60% of their income), they are less likely to be able to give (even if they wanted).
We survived, I attended classes and gained qualifications I could use working from home, I started paying taxes, and all my three children, despite
their handicaps and eligibility for pensions work and pay taxes too.
And therein lies the problem. The taxation in America is redundant, and a way for the elite to horde money from even the people who need it the most
(such as yourself and your children). If you're family was not taxed, they would be able to live better, fuller lives as well as getting help from
others who could then afford to help. Humanity is a ruthless barrage of selfishness, but there are also MANY compassionate people who would help.
The total government support I got was ~$1,000,000.
Since then my children and I have paid about twice that in taxes, and they will be paying taxes for many years to come. It's a sound investment if
you ask me.
Is that a typo? Does that say roughly a million?! The average American makes between 1 and 2 million in his/entire ENTIRE lifetime according to the
census. I hope you are nearing 80 years old...
Single parents like me are the ones you never hear about, but we are not uncommon.
I have 5 aunts who have been married and divorced numerous times, and have on average 2-3 kids a piece. Granted child support helps (which I'm still
on the fence about, but we can discuss that in a later thread), but what got them through the tough times was all of their family pulling together and
helping. If you're entire family has passed on, I am truly sorry sorry. If they have not, and they have not helped, then shame on them.
By the way, the single parent pension was not invented as an act of charity. It was worked out that it was cheaper to pay a woman to stay home and
look after her own children than to support them in an orphanage. So orphanages were closed and replaced with this pension.
This I can't argue with. Any kind of government run facility is just a waste of time and money, and kids need as much love as they can get,
especially from a loving biological parent that wants to keep them and help them grow up. BUT, it should not be the job of the government (and by
proxy, us the tax-payers).
You say someone in the situation I was in should rely on family, friends, neighbours and charities to help.
My friends turned against me for leaving my violent husband, because they had never seen that side of him.
My neighbours didn't know me and didn't want to. I was judged by the fact that druggies had previously rented the old house I rented after I left my
husband, and they wouldn't even let me use a telephone, or ring an ambulance themselves, when a lady was dying on the street in front of their houses
as a result of a car accident.
My family, including my mother, had sexually abused me as a child, (as I've mentioned here in other threads,) and also abused my daughter when I was
in hospital. They weren't going to help.
I tried charities. At one I was gives a plastic supermarket bag of mouldy yoghurts. Another gave me mouldy bread and tinned pumpkin soup.
What is obvious in this thread that there are many people here who would not give a stuff if millions of women and children slowly starve to death,
provided they save a few cents on their taxes.
Well folks, you're only fooling yourselves. It doesn't matter how many services the government cuts out, they will never lower taxes on the middle
class. All you will achieve is eliminating services that families in your tax-bracket need while the government laughs at your trusting compliance.
And, while you're at it, you will be forcing a population INCREASE because one factor causing poor people to have babies in 3rd world countries is
the lack of welfare. They have lots of children so someone will be there to look after them when they cannot earn a living themselves.
Btw, that $1,000,000 was only out by a factor of 10. ;-)
I meant one hundred thousand.