SC Lt. Gov: Poor Like "Stray Animals." Don't Feed Them or "They Breed.", page 3
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reply posted on 24-1-2010 @ 11:45 PM by brainwrek
reply to post by ladyinwaiting



In depth research into the General Welfare clause? Please elaborate.....

I'll get you started:

"Congress has not unlimited powers to provide for the general welfare, but only those specifically enumerated." - Thomas Jefferson, 1798


"I cannot undertake to lay my finger on that article of the Constitution which granted a right to Congress of expending, on objects of benevolence, the money of their constituents." - James Madison criticizing an attempt to grant public monies for charitable means, 1794


"If Congress can do whatever in their discretion can be done by money, and will promote the General Welfare, the Government is no longer a limited one, possessing enumerated powers, but
an indefinite one, subject to particular exceptions." - James Madison, 1792


At first glance, it says nothing about giving others money in terms of "social programs".

So you support that contention correct?

So you wish not to give me money. Fine. Im ok with that.

Why arent you ok with me not wanting to give others my money?

[edit on 24-1-2010 by brainwrek]


reply posted on 24-1-2010 @ 11:48 PM by David9176
reply to post by Doc Velocity





Death will be swift and you'll be buried in an unmarked grave. See, that's the mentality of the comfortable poor people out there. They don't even dream of working for a living, they leap straight for theft.


Are you serious? Is that how you view 17 percent of this country? I am working...fortunately...but I know countless others who are trying like hell to get any job. It's impossible to even get a job a freakin McDonalds when you they receive 100's of applications.

Most people want to work. The JOBS AREN'T THERE. Do you think the sudden rise in unemployment the last year is because people want to be lazy?


I'm a human being who was hungry, so I found work, and for that you condemn me. You're a horse's ass, Dave, who has never starved and had to work to feed yourself. I'll bet you're on welfare, but you still have a desktop computer and cable TV. What a hypocrite.


I didn't condemn you for struggling and making it...I"m condemning you for CONDEMNING those who cannot. Maybe they should all line up at your house and you can shoot them all down for being leeches on society.

I work for a small business....you know...something that used to be prevalent in the USA until corporations suffocated them.

I've been without a job before....twice. Once without unemployment and another time with it. Did I have trouble eating? YES. Did I have trouble finding a place to sleep? NO. Luckily I have family that is willing to help me out.

You're the hypocrite...and not to mention...a cold heartless man.



reply posted on 25-1-2010 @ 12:09 AM by Doc Velocity
Originally posted by David9176
I love the compassion here for the 17 percent of this country that cannot find a job....and the millions that will lose their homes.

Compassion? Take your "compassion" down to Bank of America or Chase or Wells Fargo and try to cash it in. Compassion is never going to solve the problem of poverty in America.

The problem is that it's too easy to go on the dole in this country. It's too easy to be a bum, basically, and many successive generations of the "poor" are all too aware of this fact. The gubbermint has sustained this pig-trough of free handouts for so long that we now have this sub-culture of Americans who have never known a day's work in their lives.

And they believe they're entitled. They plan their lives around that government welfare check and those food stamps and the social security benefits and the Medicaid and Medicare and so on and so on...

They are DEPENDENT on the government dole. Their FAMILIES are DEPENDENT on the government dole. Their grandparents and all their cousins and their kids and stepchildren are DEPENDENT on the government dole.

Like leeches, yes. But more like wood ticks, drinking the blood of America, draining it, becoming enormously and grossly and morbidly obese with excess, living off the taxes of others, like the useless parasites they are.

Yeah, you wanna talk about the "poor," or do you wanna talk about the needy? Two different classes. The needy really need help, and they have every intention of getting back on their feet and climbing out of the poverty shîthole — that's what I did. The "poor" as a class, however, AREN'T STRIVING to climb out of the cesspool — they're comfortable.

If you threatened to take away their government checks, they'd go crazy, they'd go on mad rampages of theft and violence. Threaten their government goose that lays golden eggs, and they'd rather kill your ass than get a job.

Better to smash out a window and steal something. Easy way out, every time, with those people.

Yes, I am differentiating between the poor people that I worked with in the watermelon patch and the "poor people" who sit on their front porches down in the ghetto, drinking their hooch out of brown bags and shooting crack out back.

See, there's a huge difference between the two. One group of people (the truly needy minority) will take your offerings and keep moving and make something of their lives, okay? The "poor people" on the government dole, however, will CONTINUE taking your offerings FOREVER, and they have no intention of rising above the shîthole they inhabit.

— Doc Velocity





[edit on 1/25/2010 by Doc Velocity]


reply posted on 25-1-2010 @ 12:49 AM by Doc Velocity
reply to post by orionthehunter



Be assured, there is a groundswell of like sentiment all across America, and it's going to sing like a siren in November of this year... This is going to be a helluva year, folks. Fasten yer seatbelts.

— Doc Velocity





[edit on 1/25/2010 by Doc Velocity]


reply posted on 25-1-2010 @ 12:57 AM by brainwrek
reply to post by muzzleflash



Just out of curiosity, what college degrees or other education do the gas station worker, the factory worker, and the pizza jockey you mentioned hold?


reply posted on 25-1-2010 @ 01:32 AM by Plasma applicator
reply to post by ldyserenity



Really, what about Gandhi, Mandela, Robert Mitchem, Cash, Hilton, well maybe not Hilton but there have been a lot of people in jail that have contributed more than you, would be murderer.

reply to post by brainwrek



So if you get injured in an accident you should be left to die. I am all for that
For some reason I think if it was you let them die people, you would scream the loudest


reply posted on 25-1-2010 @ 01:47 AM by Janky Red
Originally posted by muzzleflash
Funny that everyone I know that is on welfare /foodstamps etc actually has jobs.

My wifes brother and sister and law, both work every day yet do not get paid crap so they still need assistance. One works at Pizza Hut, the other works at a factory.

My wifes best friends are on assistance, one works at a gas station and the other works at a factory.

Her other friend works as a bank teller, and she is on assistance too.

Her parents are on assistance and they have worked HARD for over 40+ years. And still work! (they should have retired years ago).

But here is the problem.

Us slaves do not get paid crap. The gas bills, electric, and prices of food are so exorbitantly high that you just simply cannot make ends meet working normal jobs anymore.

THEY ALL WORK.
Yet they all need assistance because they don't get paid crap.

Looks to me like the people running these businesses are running slave labor, and expecting the Govt to take care of their workers pay shortfalls.

This is the fault of business greed, and trying to make the highest profit margins possible at ANY expense.

Why is a job not enough anymore? Because the govt will cover the rest...allowing business to profit big time!

Hell most work places will not allow you to work full time either, they only allow part time so they can withhold benefits etc.



Thats too bad, I live in California and I currently know zero people on the dole, although I do know many unemployed people most are living on savings for the time being. I am not sure how long that will last, I don't personally know any "lazy" people who have never worked a hard day in their lives. However if any of my friends or family do need help I will be glad that my deductions will go to their benefit.

I guess I am also lucky that I do not view people like animals, hopefully this chap will
get hit in the nuts with a ball peen hammer to ensure he does not release more sociopathy into the gene pool. If any of you buy the ticket I will swing the hammer free of charge, I am socialist like that I guess.


reply posted on 25-1-2010 @ 01:58 AM by Janky Red
Originally posted by Doc Velocity
reply to
post by orionthehunter



Be assured, there is a groundswell of like sentiment all across America, and it's going to sing like a siren in November of this year... This is going to be a helluva year, folks. Fasten yer seatbelts.

— Doc Velocity

[edit on 1/25/2010 by Doc Velocity]


I know, all the libertarian, post partisan, conservative costumes are being shed like crazy only to reveal two bit Neocons. I can't wait to see the new ideas that the neoconservative base is ready to unfurl upon America. Such a proven track record of success is bound to produce the same amazing results we received last time, so I can relate to your giddiness. Personally, I am preying every night that I can witness the first Trillionaire before I am forty, I know if anyone can, you can guys can!

God Bless America!

CHEERIOS


[edit on 25-1-2010 by Janky Red]


reply posted on 25-1-2010 @ 02:10 AM by Dock9
The phrase which appears to have offended many is the one about 'animals'

But we are animals, like it or not

I'm wondering where the Darwinists are lurking

If we compare humans to a herd of wilderbeast, we'd see where we're going wrong

If a wilderbeast cannot keep up, is injured, is deformed or whatever, the herd leaves it behind

Now of course people will leap upon this chance to say, ' That's the difference between we humans and wilderbeast' ... so there's only ONE chance for someone to use that, after that it becomes superfluous

We have to cease assuring ourselves we're something special here on this planet when in fact, we are a plague, as the other thread asserts

We are animals. Most often, we're far worse than animals. We know it, which is why some people become so defensive when comparisons are made

We have to restore the integrity of our herd. We have to breed from the fittest instead of pillaging this planet, justified by the insane notion that every member of the human herd is entitled to produce more of themselves

Poverty breeds poverty-mentality, very often. Welfare lifestyle often carries through to the fourth generation, all of them hiding behind 'victim' status or claiming some excuse rather than accept any work that comes their way

It can't go on

If a person cannot support themselves, they have no right putting another of themselves on the planet. But, they won't stop unless they're stopped

Compassion has a place, but spoonfeeding useless eaters will soon be a thing of the past



reply posted on 25-1-2010 @ 02:20 AM by ladyinwaiting
reply to post by brainwrek



"Care to elaborate and you'll get me started". lol. These very issues have been debated on these threads until it bores me to tears to even see one, much less participate in such a conversation.

Look, the law is the law and says you have to pay taxes if you are able to. Clearly the thought of having to share with another human being upsets you and makes you angry. That is your issue to deal with, not mine.

As for your other questions, I don't mean to be rude, but they are just uninteresting to me and I have no intention in entertaining them. I figure if you can attempt, lol, to be condescending, I can offer a touch of rudeness.

Look, I really don't give a flying fig if you pay your taxes or not. Your rather rudimentary issues are not my problem.

A political figure has stated essentially he would like to see a class of people starve to death, and further more put an end to their "breeding", which is again a very insulting statement in and of itself. I'm sure he and the rest of the middle class "make love", and "procreate". The poorer classes simply "breed". Like animals. There is something severely lacking in this man's character and in his thinking, to even believe that making such a statement is acceptable in anyone's terms. I hope he will be duly admonished by his constituency.

The language alone is offensive, clearly reeks of ignorance, and the suggestions he makes are barbaric.


reply posted on 25-1-2010 @ 02:53 AM by Darky5K
Originally posted by Doc Velocity
reply to
post by orionthehunter



Be assured, there is a groundswell of like sentiment all across America, and it's going to sing like a siren in November of this year... This is going to be a helluva year, folks. Fasten yer seatbelts.

— Doc Velocity
[edit on 1/25/2010 by Doc Velocity]


Yes, because you neocons did SUCH a great job when you had all the branches. Why, you did the same things Obama has done! Nice job

It isn't about work, it's about how much we earn versus what we're paying. And so far, we're paying more so these people can be kings and abandon us when the # hits the fan. And you will sing their greatness to the end, it seems. It's about us being treated like human beings, American individuals; not cattle to slave away and be told we can't do this or that because it would compete with the masters.
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