Originally posted by The_truth_is_stranger

Maybe ET is aware of our planet and are simply waiting on us to destroy ourselves? Our at the very least we will decrease our numbers dramaticly thru wars and the like, so that when they do finnaly attack, their potential for losses will have decreased dramatically

If that were the case, then "ET" must not have developed advanced math, as our population has only increased every year. Even the worst wars were followed by massive population booms.

We should not presume to know what aliens want or need.
This scientist is saying we should prepare for the worst, im not sure this has anything to do with disclosure.

Originally posted by OpenYourHead
ET's have been fully aware of our planet and the people on it for quite sometime. And it's possible they are our creators. There's a missing link in Evolution, and I'm sure aliens as advanced as they are could genetically engineer a race of humans.

Its what you don't know that you should be afraid of. YEAH I'm talking to YOU. GOD is the creator not man.

[edit on 1/24/2010 by Katie]

Originally posted by EPICwhale
We should not presume to know what aliens want or need.
This scientist is saying we should prepare for the worst, im not sure this has anything to do with disclosure.

The fact that they are talking about it like this tells you something is brewing.

Originally posted by OpenYourHead

Originally posted by EPICwhale
We should not presume to know what aliens want or need.
This scientist is saying we should prepare for the worst, im not sure this has anything to do with disclosure.

The fact that they are talking about it like this tells you something is brewing.

whats brewing? For too long now we have been waiting for evidence of life from another world, we only got stories and fuzzy videos that may seem convincing but are not proof, for me anyway. If more scientest like this guy take this seriously we may get somewhere.

Good point - the more certified scientists the better. Many of them are still not prepared to accept these possibilities and that is one reason we haven't gotten anywhere really on this matter, well, until the last year or so - everything is in motion, but this thread has for the first time made me wonder if revealing alien existence could be our own un-doing?

Still, about the scientists, this is an extract from Nick Pope's website about the MoD UFO unit, the one that shut down a couple of months ago.

"The MoD's UFO project has its roots in a 1950 initiative by the then Chief Scientific Adviser, Sir Henry Tizard. He said that UFO sightings shouldn't be dismissed out of hand without some form of proper scientific study. "

My question is, when was there ever a "scientific study" to learn of? They had 10,000 reports over 50 years, no doubt the same amount in the last decade - but has anyone read a scientific report by the MoD about such things? That was the whole reason the unit was started, it wasn't because of a defense issue but that is the line they used for many recent years. Was there scientific investigation or has all this really been ignored by the science community in the last 60 years? Well, whatever, looks like they're becoming more public about it now - and that's a good thing, and makes this a good thread to read

The sad state of braintrust's (collective scientific field) intellectual integrity nowadays....sigh.

First they claim UFO do not exist
Secondly they ridicule witnesses as hoaxers and charlettans, fringe science, etc.
Now that many world's govt ( elected representatives of the masses) made public disclosure on UFOs, these boffins claim not only UFO exists but are a threat?
Climategate anyone?

Guess the masses will have to trust themselves and be on their own on what the extra-terresterials are and after....

All I know is that:-
1. If they had such capabilities as witnessed, they are an advance race and fully capable of wiping us all in one stroke if they so wished.

2. Being advance beings and capable of constructing such crafts and travelling through space and time, they would not be tourists, but economic beings of a different social order but nevertheless with economics in mind, for who would build such crafts, spend on tech research and harvesting of resources?

They will be searching for returns to justify the costs. Thing is, what returns are they seeking? My perception is for our inexhaustable gold for millenia- on land and under the seabed.

They came for trade and not to wage war on puny soft skin humans. Our Atomics and heroism through the ages, of refusing to die out as a species no matter what ethnic roots and to go away quietly into the night, had kept them from pillaging our gold for free.

Trade, not war, but unfortunately, on NWOs terms and not on masses terms. The masses with their sons and daughters are manipulated and to be used as cannon fodder to get better bargains for the NWO and keep themselves rich, not for mankind.



[edit on 24-1-2010 by SeekerofTruth101]

The scientists who compiled reports for the goverement on ufos and alien contact are probably not the same type of scientists who may discover life elsewhere. our best chance of proof is discovery of a earth like planet and i think we are getting closer to that all the time. Not that we could go there if we wanted.

we need to forget what they science guys say and i say this only for this thread , we as people have taken it for granted that intelligent life would be benevolent ,which im not saying isnt the case ,keep an open mind on this one, its ony been about 60 yrs since the planet switched on technologicly speaking and now theres that many signals wizzing of the planet, who actualy knows who is listening , thats a scary thought and if theres any one listening ,there not gonna give the game up by sending a message back

ohh and 1 last note ,
we are stupid for sending that satellite into space greeting who knows what

Originally posted by The_truth_is_stranger
I think steven hawking said aswell, that if we did make first contact, it wouldn't be on friendly terms. I mean what can we possibly possess that any ET life form would want besides our natural resources? And honestly they sure won't ask for them either. It would be systematic extermination, and seriously anybody will tell you that you first learn your enemy before you attack, and I am sure "they" would be well prepared to deal with all of our "Advanced weaponry"... Honestly tho, maybe if said senario does happen, we will prevail and this could be the event what unites us all? altho truthfully, the latter seems more likely.

No offense to Stephen Hawking but an extra-solar species able to harness the energy required to make interstellar round-trips to Earth and back while shrugging off thermonuclear weaponry would probably possess the technology to synthesize anything they needed from its elemental components. Earth is as insignificant a source of natural resources as a drop of water is to the oceans.

Originally posted by TheBlazedEntity
hmm i think we might be getting closer and closer.. i dont doubt that the government has had contact with ETs though.

You could have a UFO land on the lawn of the White House and the government would still NOT disclose anything. I mean... come on! Why would anyone think they would?

BAh! That's just one positive for one negative.

While the guy asserts that ETI must be taken more seriously, he's just going so far in naivety as claiming that the government has no knowledge of extraterrestrial presence, and he implies that we are still looking out for and extraterrestrial presence that we haven't found. Bullocks.

Like SETI program as a whole, this is either plain ignorance, or a ploy to further propagate the idea that there is absolutely no knowledge of any alien activity by any government agencies.

Another sign of upcoming disclosure? Rather think the opposite...

Has anybody considered the possibility that this here post, which is essentially warning people to be afraid of advanced entities, was posted by a disinformation agent of the powers that be.

It's a given that disinformation agents do exist, and the internet is an excellent medium for the propagation of their messages. Plus, there's been much talk as of late about the Obama administration pretty much publicly stating it's intent to infiltrate and disseminate "dangerous conspiracy theories providers".

It's really pretty simple logic that if there are advanced beings who can reach our planet then they are obviously more technologically advanced than us. It follows that they could therefore destroy us at their pleasing, whenever they want. But they haven't. If they wanted us done away with, we would be gone already. Apparently they are not as fond of unnecessary aggressive violence on other peoples, as are humans.

Any advanced entities will not only be more advanced technologically than us, but they will also have evolved to a more advanced way of being. In order to reach such a mastery of the universe it requires an equally harmonized society. They have probably learned to live together, happily, with little violence or conflict because there is no need for it---their advanced technologies provide a much better way of life which is expressed in their good behavior.

This post was intended to place the idea of aliens being unfriendly in our heads, so it can grow and become incorporated into our perspective. This way, when the messiah comes from "outer space" to take all the his children to heaven their will be sinners to refuse, it's part of a plan (I'm not Christian but I believe most of what it teaches). Because of these subtle messages and coerced ideas, when the ultimate truth is ready to be delivered to those who desire to know--when it is time for ascension, for graduation--there will be people refuse him because they do not know. They are prevented from seeing the truth by their own perspective.

Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but yourself can free your mind.

The Powers That Be know that they cannot stop what is coming, and they also know there will be plenty of slaves/people left behind in this third dimension so they don't really care. They know new souls will graduate from the second density ripe for exploitation. There will always be more souls--pieces of consciousness---ready to continue to be enslaved by those power-holding beings. As it was intended.

It should be as it is.

All you have to do is accept the gift which will be granted for all. It may seem odd, but this gift of eternity will only be taken by some. Sure, it will come around again, but not for a very long time. In order to accept the gift this time around you must free yourself from this mental slavery and see life for what it is, an educational illusion which enables and promotes spiritual growth. All you have to do is realize the truth, realize the powerful energy that you are, realize what's really been going on here, and make the decision to ascend from this third dimension planet into the splendor of the fourth dimension.

We are all parts of the same whole.

All the souls of our history will be at this graduation ceremony. The entire universe will be watching with anxious excitement. Some will move on to: heaven, nirvana, ecstasy, eternity, salvation. Some will stay back in this temporal state, by their own choosing. The evil Powers That Be will continue their devilish, yet useful game of pretending all-powerful. They will continue to completely control this earth and others like it as much as they are allowed to by the real powers that be. As much as is good for everyone. Evil is needed to balance the good because duality is needed for existence, for excitement. Duality is necessary for everything.

So, DO NOT BE SCARED! If you want, you can go away from this place of suffering, so do as you like.

Humans on Earth must realize we are very vulnerable to an unfriendly alien

invasion. Even if it is a 10% chance of and an unfriendly alien invasion the States

of this United States of the America Union must be protected in case of this

type of invasion that should be enforced by the government and it's military.


My opinion is we are 100% vulnerable to a unfriendly extraterrestrial alien

invasion from outer space, underground and from underwater alien bases.

You say prove it that there are real aliens and a real threat. I say look at all

the thousands of hours of UFO videos throughout this world and solar system

not to mention real alien photos and videos to verify their existence. This

Universe is set up on what we call good and bad and it would stand to reason

aliens can be good or bad.


ARTICLE IV of the Constitution of the United States of America

Section 4.

The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican

form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on

application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot

be convened) against domestic violence.


If we are protected by a Star Wars Defense System from invading

extraterrestrials on Earth we must be told by our government that a defense

mechanism is in place to protect We The People from such a potential

invasion threat. The releasing of this information would acknowlege the

disclosure of alien existence by our government. ^Y^


[edit on 24-1-2010 by amari]

Originally posted by Katie

Originally posted by OpenYourHead
ET's have been fully aware of our planet and the people on it for quite sometime. And it's possible they are our creators. There's a missing link in Evolution, and I'm sure aliens as advanced as they are could genetically engineer a race of humans.

Its what you don't know that you should be afraid of. YEAH I'm talking to YOU. GOD is the creator not man.

[edit on 1/24/2010 by Katie]

I don't think you understood my post. I'm not afraid of anything and I didn't say man created anything. ET's could be our GOD, or at least play a part. Our Watchers as they have been called before.