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Topic started on 24-1-2010 @ 10:02 AM by Mr_skepticc
Dr. Jeffrey Long argues that if you look at the scientific evidence, the answer is unequivocally yes. Drawing on a decade's worth of research on near-death experiences — work that includes cataloguing the stories of some 1,600 people who have gone through them — he makes the case for that controversial conclusion in a new book, Evidence of the Afterlife. Medicine.


I believe the energy within us, some may call a soul, never dies! Interesting piece from Time magazine I thought some of you might enjoy.



Questions and Answrs.

Medically speaking, what is a near-death experience?
A near-death experience has two components. The person has to be near death, which means physically compromised so severely that permanent death would occur if they did not improve: they're unconscious, or often clinically dead, with an absence of heartbeat and breathing. The second component [is that] at the time they're having a close brush with death, they have an experience. [It is] generally lucid [and] highly organized.
(See the year in health 2009.)

How do you respond to skeptics who say there must be some biological or physiological basis for that kind of experience, which you say in the book is medically inexplicable?
There have been over 20 alternative, skeptical "explanations" for near-death experience. The reason is very clear: no one or several skeptical explanations make sense, even to the skeptics themselves. Or [else ]there wouldn't be so many.

You say there's less skepticism about near-death experiences than there used to be, as well as more awareness. Why is that?
Literally hundreds of scholarly articles have been written over the last 35 years about near-death experience. In addition to that, the media continues to present [evidence of] near-death experience. Hundreds of thousands of pages a month are read on our website, NDERF.org.

Read more:
www.time.com...






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reply posted on 24-1-2010 @ 10:33 AM by TinFoilBat



reply posted on 24-1-2010 @ 10:48 AM by Kandinsky
Life after death is a fascinating subject to think about. I would love to think that we carry on into a better place.

Dr Long's beliefs seem IMO to be clouded by Western values. I checked out his site...
Life Review, Changed Beliefs, Universal Order and Purpose, and the Near-Death Experience. I browsed a while hoping to see something that chimed or rang true. I was disappointed to see his critical thinking is less than rigorous.

There's a strong focus on religion and Jesus....which reflects the biased sample from which he's drawing his conclusions. Western patients=Western life after death experiences. Does the afterlife have a cultural bias? Or do the people making the claims?

If I had a clear cut life after death experience..of course it would change my view of life! A life after death experience comes after dying! This event alone would cause anyone to re-evaluate and regroup in life


reply posted on 24-1-2010 @ 11:09 AM by havok
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Good thread.
Everything that you've stated is, still, based on beliefs.
Even the scientist is staking a claim that there is absolute positive evidence to persuade his opinion. As if he needed it...
You have to believe there is life after death.
Because, without beliefs, we have nothing.

I, for one, believe there is "life" after death, but not in our physical realm.
This helps explain all the recent ghost hunter series' on TLC!


*S&F*



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reply posted on 24-1-2010 @ 11:21 AM by Elepheagle
Originally posted by Kandinsky
Life after death is a fascinating subject to think about. I would love to think that we carry on into a better place.

Dr Long's beliefs seem IMO to be clouded by Western values. I checked out his site...
Life Review, Changed Beliefs, Universal Order and Purpose, and the Near-Death Experience. I browsed a while hoping to see something that chimed or rang true. I was disappointed to see his critical thinking is less than rigorous.

There's a strong focus on religion and Jesus....which reflects the biased sample from which he's drawing his conclusions. Western patients=Western life after death experiences. Does the afterlife have a cultural bias? Or do the people making the claims?

If I had a clear cut life after death experience..of course it would change my view of life! A life after death experience comes after dying! This event alone would cause anyone to re-evaluate and regroup in life


The Youtube link above leads you to an interesting documentary that I coincidentally first watched just last night, before stumbling upon this thread.
It's not quite about NDEs, but makes a strong argument for a continuation of the spirit, or reincarnation.

It would seems that NDE's and these instances where people remember past lives (children in particular) transcend cultures and belief systems.


reply posted on 24-1-2010 @ 11:30 AM by Kandinsky
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Oh yeah, I agree there. I'm not disputing the reality of NDEs at all. I've read a lot about them since beginning a psychology degree years ago.

I'm disputing the good Doc in the OP. I think his conclusions are unscientific and pointed out that his sample is also biased. If you click through his site...it's fairly 'new age unspecific.' It has a pseudo-scientific air about it with the references cited...but a lot of them are by his wife. Conflict of interest? @)


reply posted on 24-1-2010 @ 11:42 AM by pause4thought
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If I had a clear cut life after death experience..of course it would change my view of life! A life after death experience comes after dying! This event alone would cause anyone to re-evaluate and regroup in life


That's exactly what happened to this man:



Google Video Link




And these people:



Google Video Link




There is more to life than meets the eye.


reply posted on 24-1-2010 @ 11:58 AM by happygolucky
I would love for this to be true...but these OBE's and NDE's can be explained thru medical findings...


It gets a little technical, but you don't need to speak medical-nese to follow it.


I saw the documentary that covered this and it was quite a trip to watch them do this...I will look for a video of it.


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