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reply posted on 27-1-2010 @ 12:09 AM by aristocrat2
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And just to play along, how did KBR manage to hijack and crash the planes into the building


Removal of circuit board from HMS Trafalgar's fire and control systmes and in a Tomahawk's systems. The Trafalgar thinks its fired a missile that has been safely destroy, but actually then flies on either...
a. Under a pre-determined course according to the corrupted circuit board.
b. Under a pre-determined course to another place where someone else can fly it by remote.
c. By remote by someone else who can immediately take control of it.

Remember, once the circuit board is in place, the question of passwords no longer applies if the entire circuitry has been replaced.



and also find demolition experts willing to go along with the murder of thousands of innocent civilians?

Considering that the company that now owns the Turner Corporation is the same one that built most of Hitler's Death Camps that murdered MILLIONS of innocent Jews, not thousands of innocent people, that would seem an easy thing to do.


reply posted on 27-1-2010 @ 12:27 AM by aristocrat2
Originally posted by hooper
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In standard criminology, whoever is found at the scene of the crime is considered to be a grade A suspect... so why is it that t=in the case of 9/11, some dude in a cave in Afghanistan is the prie suspect, when KBR and their associate contracting companies were at the scene of the crime?


Now could it be that, just maybe, because the murder weapon was a commercial jet airliner going 500 mph that the investigators concluded that anybody standing at the crash site was probably not behind the wheel?



They would have to be VERY, VERY STUPID investigators or just downright corrupt to conclude that. The US Air Force amongst many others have innumerable drones flown from d=some distant location these days. Raytheon has been involved in developing such technology for years and many of their directors died on that day. It is not that Raytheon was necessarily involved, and it might be even by accident, but their deaths would have hindered anyone giving evidence as to the level of advancement of technology in this regard.



reply posted on 27-1-2010 @ 12:50 AM by aristocrat2
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THE TRUTH MOVEMENT IS SERIOUSLY WRONG IN A NUMBER OF WAYS:-

a. In concluding that if Bin Laden did not do it, it could only have been the Government. This is patently crass as a Government-wide conspiracy would have certainly been so big that someone somewhere would have broken cover and confessed by now. Furthermore, by insisting that it was a Government-wide conspiracy of "they're all in it" has totally discredited it as numerous highly patriotic and honest men and women serving their country are left angry and resentful at being smeared when they knew that they had nothing to do with 9/11. The hard fact is that 9/11 COULD have been done by a third group, in my thoughts listed here, I have shown how KBR could, feasibly done with little or no help from any Government agency apart from the odd minor unwitting action.
b. In concluding that there were either "NO PLANES" or "NO MISSILES". This makes again no sense. ANyone in a conspiracy will simply be concerned with "getting the job done" and would not impose such restrictions on themselves.
c. In assuming that all "official" doctrine is false. There is no reason not to suppose that some matters were true. Whilst it might have been intended for the Shanksville jet to be replaced, maybe the passengers did revolt and overrun the cockpit and chuck a spanner in the works of whoever was planning 9/11.
d. In assuming that despite being "absolute traitors", the "inside job" people were all patriotic enough to use only All-American kit. Having people run all over the USA checking out missile inventories has gone nowhere.
e. In latching on to any politician who'll listen has allowed concerns to be hijacked as surely as jetliner with an Al Qaeda operative in the cockpit and used for cheap political gain by folk like Canada's NDP and cause honest people to be retagged as loony lefties.


reply posted on 27-1-2010 @ 03:23 AM by impressme
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I have to disagree with you.
We have proof that OBL did not do 911.

Bombshell: Bin Laden worked for US until 9/11


www.911blogger.com...


Whistleblower: Bin Laden was US proxy until 9/11


rawstory.com...

Enough circumstantial evidences points to a military operation from the United States. We are talking about the United States Government doing a false flag operation.

When I say the Government I do not mean the whole government or the entire military I am talking about a handful of military experts in advances chemical demolition (Only top secrete military science) and retired top gun experts pilots who are experts in handling remote control aircraft.

In my opinion they had to be loyal to Dick Cheney and only answered to Dick Cheney, remember It has now been proven Cheney had his own assassination squad working exclusively for him.
Dick Cheney was in charge of the operations. Remembers we still do not know why Pentagon officials, and members in the Bush administration lied to the 911 commission they lied so much that the commissioners wanted a criminal investigation done by the Justices department.

This was not a cover-up of some sloppy incompetence, of who wasn’t doing their jobs in protecting the United States on the morning of 911. If you all want to fall for that pack of lies, then your welcome to do so.
However, If that really was the case then we would have had some people heads in the ringer and there would have been some accountability in different braches of the Bush administration and the Pentagon.

However, no one has not been held accountable for not doing their jobs in protection the US citizens, or the United States.
In fact, most the players in high positions in the White House and Pentagon have been promoted and their friends rewarded war contracts worth billions.
It is really disgusting when you think about it, the very leaders we counted on into protecting us, wants Americans to think they were to stupid and didn’t know, that airplanes could be used as weapons, or could be used to fly them in our buildings.

Not only are they bad lairs, but our military has been doing war exercises right up to the day of 911. What sloppy lairs.

This false flag operation was carried out with such “perfection” and “expertise” that had one thing fell apart then the whole false flag operation would have been exposed.

Someone knew, or they would not have put option on United or AA.

Well folks, it did fall apart, yet we didn’t recognized it until years later, when outside experts started to reexamine the OS and looking at the evidences this government gave us to support their OS.
The problem is none of the evidences is creditable or can be verified. The FBI working with the Bush administration destroyed most of the physical evidences.
The FBI did a wonderful job of not allowing out side investigators get near ground zero to collect samples of debris, at any of the crash sites to collected, or sample the crash debris. The FBI put gag orders on the NYC fire departments, police department, and Airline companies, so people would not talk or risk losing their jobs. What was so secretive that the FBI did not want people talking about? What were they hiding?

The smoking gun proof of 911 being a false flag operation is WTC 7. The explanation of the NIST hypothesis does not stand up to creditable sciences.
NIST is trying to convince us, that a few firers in WTC 7 burning on different floors caused every floor to simultaneously from corner to corner to drop all at once! Faster than free fall?

This is not natural, and real sciences tells us that.
All three WTC were demolished by a sophisticated chemical demolition, a technology not known outside the US military.
We are talking about “military sciences” and I am convinced of that.

The American people have not been told why four commercial Airliners were allowed to fly off their “given courses” and ignore ATS instructions, from the beginning. These four planes flew around highly secured air- space including flying over our nuclear power plants for an hour without being intercepted.

For a whole hour! This was a first time? What was everyone doing? Ill, tell you all what they were doing, NOTHING!

The proof is this folks, the powers for the military to make their own decisions to intercept any aircraft that stayed off course was taken away from NORAD several months before 911. Donald Rumsfeld made these changes to give "only Dick Cheney full power." No one else was allowed to give any orders to dispatch interceptors, it was all placed in the hands of vice President Dick Cheney.

On the morning of 911 NORAD tried persistently to reach Cheney’s official, Mr. Cheney did not answer the phone when NORAD was trying to get his permission to dispatch interceptors to these Airliners.

FAA watched in horror, on their radar where these planes were heading. FAA did their part, they did contact NORAD in a timely manner.
This whole problem falls in the laps of Dick Cheney.

The orders to give the miliatary, NORAD full decision to intercept planes flying off thier courses were handed back to NORAD shortly after 911.
One can clearly see how this treasonous vice President, took complete control of our military by not responding, by not allowing NORAD to intercept these planes.

Cheney and his privet covert operators where able to pull off the greatest “magic show,” of terror, live on TV, to fool and frighten every American to give up their precious freedom for security.


We do not need proof of a “stand down” orders to intercept those Airliners. Their response of doing nothing simply answered that question for us, thanks to Dick Cheney.
















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reply posted on 27-1-2010 @ 09:45 AM by hooper
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Just for the record - the term is "bald faced" or "bare faced" or even "bold faced" lie.

The first two refer to men and beards. The third term refers to print.

But I don't have to tell you about lying, do I?


reply posted on 10-2-2010 @ 01:35 AM by mmiichael
Originally posted by psikeyhackr

How do our engineering schools expect to teach physics for the next 1000 years? ROFL

DUH, what does the distribution of steel and concrete have to do with a skyscraper holding itself up?

www.youtube.com...


A large number of independent architects, qualified structural engineers, demolition experts, have written detailed analysis and published papers on the subject. Recommended reading on the subject. Particularly on the loss of support strength in on buildings with overheated steel frames.

Of course everyone considers himself an expert on science these days. Check the vast archives on this site with some really knowledgeable people weighing in,

I enjoyed the Youtube video and would nominate it for some kind of award. The best demonstration of tape dispensers falling down a broom handle I've ever seen.

What do you do to simulate the 100 ton fuel filled planes crashing into your model?
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