Good sane advice from the OP, but yet again 9/11 threads turn into side against side with the usual assertions from both sides.

Do I belive the OS? absolutly not. Why? because I got off my bum and researched the lies and propoganda. This leads me to my point..........

The energy expanded by both camps in debating the same old videos, documents and witnesses is pointless. IMO those that agree with the scenario and outcome pushed by TPTB have an agenda based on being told to believe and told to derail, cloud or generally muddy the waters of truth.

Am I saying they are organised disinfo agents?... Before I answer I will give you my reason for the answer.

They are not dumb or stupid people. Read some of their posts and you will agree with me. They are not sheeple because everyone eventually sees the logical cracks in the OS. They are intillectually aware so are being deliberatly used, IMO, to derail and cloud.

So I believe that most if not all of those who close their eyes to the evidence that has been and continues to be found and raised are denying it because its part of their job or role.

With the above point in mind. I suggest that our time be better spent researching and looking for evidence to end the quest that will see those responsible hang for what they did to thousands of Americans that day.

Ignore the debaters who show no evidence to support the OS. Ignore the debaters who hunt in packs to debunk the real evidence and get on with convincing joe public as to what realy happened that day.

The truth will out, Im sure of it and so are the government mouths who hassle and derail. That is the only reason they are here, and they know it.

Respects

I only wish that we had some members who have enough time to put together a thread containing the facts, with photo's video's, etc. Like the video showing eplosives used to bring down the WTC 7 tower.

This way when we talk to these people who disbelieve it was an inside job we could point them to this one thread where it would have all the facts, evidence of everything put together.

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Fact: It's not PHYSICALLY possible for a universal demolition-pulverization of the twin towers to result from very smoky, oxygen-starved jet fuel fires that would have affected only a few or several floors. Or to be most charitable, such a complete annihilation (into mostly fine white and gray powder) could not have happened under normal circumstances in less than, say, several hours.

Fact: It's not PHYSICALLY possible to have had NO trace of a Boeing 757 at the Pentagon per the OS. Objects that big, especially the very heavy engines, do not just go POOF and vanish, as though by magical pixie dust.

There's no physical analogy to 9/11 (per the OS) either before or after the crime. Any real scientist knows a hypothesis has to be duplicated, repeatedly, before it can be stated as fact. The OS and its legions of blind believers is just the "adult" version of Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy.

THe fact : where are the boddies of your civilian ? There is allways a lot of material and body material in a crash : nothing disapear : but it happen one in history : for the 911. In the "4 plane" : they said crashed : you don't have any TRUE material to proov they were the RIGHT plane they are talking about.

Flight : yes but not the civilian flight : it was army plane :

So : the people in the right plane have changed to an army plane (it is a joke) : NO. The "terrorist" decided to crash over the two tower ( and send a rocket over the pentagon : fact prooved) : then other "terrorist" decid to continu their plan : explode the two tower (fact prooved) with the nano termit posed days before (fact prooved).

Yes but where are your civilian ? KILLED : by the terrorist ...

When ? Before the event : but we don't know: and the families want to know ( more than one hundred families : fact prooved ).

Then what ? You don't want to recognise the truth : or you deny it, or you are hypocrythe.

The more dangerous are the cynical : hope you never speak to a right man.

WHO ARE THE TERRORIST ?

Don't search the truth out there : the truth and the lies are not far from you.

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Originally posted by conar

OS believers think that fire can cause a demolition

Conar, why does code require the use of fire protection over steel?

Thank you.

Originally posted by hooper


And "truthers" believe that fire has no effect on structures.

Yeah we all know that fire turns concrete to dust
and makes buildings fall at freefall speeds

Originally posted by TinFoilBat

Originally posted by hooper


And "truthers" believe that fire has no effect on structures.

Yeah we all know that fire turns concrete to dust
and makes buildings fall at freefall speeds

Thank you for the confirmation. I thought we were dealing with "facts" here. Well, there goes that idea.

I keep finding that when you disagree with the truth movement they always say "you haven't researched enough ". I have read hundreds and hundreds of 9/11 threads, I've read links and info provided, watched hours of videos etc.

And you know what? In my opinion the OS makes sense, I actually used to believe the OS was BS but by looking with an open mind and examining BOTH sides I have changed my mind.

Are there unanswered questions? Sure when an event of this magnitude there will not be 100% closure.