reply to post by TheLoony
Pot deludes reality, as does any drug, Crashing a car because your drunk or high means that if you weren't one of the above, you wouldn't go crash a
car. And you can go claim "why not ban alcohol?". It's simple. You ban it for people who abuse it. The problem? Most people drink responsibly. Most
people do not smoke responsibly. Beer will actually kill you if you drink too much. Pot will not. So you're right. But that's the inherit problem.
It will not show its negative effects immediately. So you get high, keep getting high, drive and crash. Because if you were instead getting drunk,
you'd keep getting drunk, then faint or barf, and unable to stand. The difference is quite oblivious. Beer has its own safeguard for drinking too
much, in that if you over drink you simply can't hurt anyone else, cause you're on your ass drunk and in a borderline comma. Pot has no safeguards,
thus making it far easier to cause harm to others.
2 case scenario with teenage Johny. Johny has pot, and Johny has beer, respectively.
Case 1: ) Johny has pot. Johny keeps smoking because, as you said, you can't OD from it. Johny gets so high he's willing to do anything. Johny gets
this sick idea. He thinks he can go around and be a dumb ass knocking over mailboxes from his car with a bat. Johny is high on pot, and has no sense
of reality or forethought, or common sense. Johny sees a dark figure, and so hits it, because Johny doesn't know what the frak he's trying to do.
Johny bats an old lady, and kills her with his bat, thinking her as a mailbox. Pot didn't kill anyone? Maybe not. But its effects did. The solution?
Weed is for dying people who don't want pain and don't want pain meds that can cause more damage than weed does. Weed will destroy their lungs and
brain over time anyway, but they'll be dead. So who cares?
Case 2: ) Johny gets drunk equally as much as he was high in the above scenario. Johny gets the same idea. Johny gets up to try and do his dastardly
deed, and Johny falls flat on his a** because he's so drunk. The old lady, and everyone's mailboxes, are safe tonight, because Johny got drunk
instead of high. The law? Beer is for adults who know common sense and how to regulate themselves.
So you can boast all you want that you can't overdose on weed. But what on Earth does that have to do with causality? Kids get dumb ideas, and
occasionally adults. Thus those reality smearing drugs are banned from them. Plenty of times drunk and high people have killed other people because
they're dumbasses. the only difference is that those drunk folks were a lot less high than those folk high on pot. And those pot folks did worse
things because they were more high
Now as to other people's responses. A bit of chemistry, mmky? Pot can kill over time no matter how you use it. The above is the effects of being
high. And again, just because you can't die from being high doesn't mean you can't cause death because you have a warped view of reality.
Long term effects are just bad. Pot is used mainly by the youth. And as such, it is funny. Because youth think they are so immortal. Than 30 years
down the road all the things they did add up and screw them over. Generations never change. glad I learned to learn from the past early in life.
is a process of dumbing down generation after generation:
Makes you more likely to be bat sh*t insane, especially if your ancestors were.
Recalculated due to the fact that the already mentally ill are more likely to use it:
Of course, for most, if you're genetically going to go bat sh*t insane, you can't do anything about it. Pot just speeds you along your way.
Science says that pot increases intelligence if you use it very shortly and than stop. That's great. but I observed in high school this supposed
fact. All the top of the class were pot users. But today they seem unable to quit and continue to drop in grades.
The reason probably is that it temporarily allows more O2 to the brain due to higher blood flow. But of course, just like overclocking a computer,
that degrades your brain over time. And in fact, because it is a natural law that all humans are blank slates capable of the same level of
intelligence (unless genetic mutation causes some kind of retardation), it really doesn't matter. Pot can best be explained for the youth as a class
divider system. The smartest get smarter because they are less worried and more calm, while the dumbest get dumber because they' are already lazy and
not going to do anything, and pot will just make them continue that.
Pot can therefore best be described as form of stagnation. For the smart, it allows them to keep who they are if it is used temporarily. For the dumb,
it prevents advancement and change. It is essentially a stagnation creating drug which locks you into who you are and makes you a drone.
Ergo, it makes you closed to any change and keeps you in your spot, unable to alter your patterns. My observance of class mates confirms this. The
smart remain smart, and the dumb remain dumb. it makes the class like a bunch of mindless Neanderthal drones. Pot makes them locked into the same
patterns of life. For the dumb, this creates acceptance and thus lack of care for their lot in life. For the smart, it creates woe, for they feel they
cannot change anything, much like their own ways, thus generating denial of self abilities, and depression. For the dumb, long term effects are
dronification into whatever cubical jobs they chose. For the smart, it damns them into repetitious robot zombies that make the perfect lab assistants.
Use your brain to do the professors work and math, and never go past assistance.
Now let's look at chemistry.
To quote wiki, and due to sources, it's ok to do:
Some studies claim a variety of negative effects associated with constant, long-term use, including short-term memory loss. Other studies have
refuted this by evidence of MRIs of long-term users, showing little or no difference to MRIs of the non-using control group. Using positron emission
tomography (PET), one study reports altered memory-related brain function in marijuana users. Conceivable long-term ill effects of THC on humans
are disputed. Its status as an illegal drug in most countries makes research difficult.
This basically confirms the above statement of mine. Pot is a drug that makes you a drone of who you were raised to be. It closes your mind and
prevents outside the box thinking. The smart remain smart, great, but they cannot be creative or think in new ways. The dumb remain dumb, and thus the
perfect slave labor of the office is created.
A not on brain scans, modern science confirms that how your brain looks does not define its functionality. The brain is born a blank slate. It
develops along and wires itself to the user's preference. The fact that the MIR scans show no change between users and non users once again confirms
the above done-forming hypothesis in that the brain is locked into a one way thinking methodology and development. It cannot develop uniquely, it can
only do its basics and from as the drone acts. If the drone is in a good school with a good education, the drone will learn the facts , be smart, and
live his life as a good lab assistant or higher drone corporate worker. If the drone is raised badly and in a bad school the drone will develop in
that way and in turn end up in a dead end job at a deli or cubical and be a perfect slave.
metabalism of thc and other chemicals from pot mainly show up in yer poopers and a little in your piss. The rest in absorbed into the body and over
time causes toxicity. Thus short term effects are good, long term effects are bad.
In many ways a good parallel is the fluoride in our water. short term it cleans your teeth and shines your bones. However over time it makes the brain
a drone, damages the teeth, toxicity forms in the body, and helps you die a cancerous bad death.
The reason for this parallel is because of the similarities of the C and O oxygen in THC and the fluoride atom itself. Most atoms in this little group
act similarly, but themselves have quite a number of differences. Indeed the two do have some effects on each other and there is speculation as well
as conspiracy that the fact that mainly the youth use pot and drink more water as a result may take an interest in the government's more malicious
The above article is pretty much unrelated by at the same time semi-related. I can't find much about it though.
Some speculate Fluoride in the water and thc being absorbed by the youth, as well as other chemicals, are part of one of many government experiments
on the population to calm the population and perhaps semi-permanently damage the ability to think creatively, thereby allowing a vast population of
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