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Alien Abductions Debunked? The Secret Story of the CIA's Top Secret Program: MK-ULTRA

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posted on Jan, 23 2010 @ 05:31 PM
Hi Everyone,

I have just finished a recently published book (December 20th 2009 publish date) called "Contactees: A History of Alien-Human Interaction", by Nick Redfern. It was a great read, and I highly recommend it to anyone interested in learning some solid, unbiased, and reliable information about early contactee cases.

Here is a quick description of the book:

"Nick Redfern, the Brit with a knack for ferreting out all the dope on outrageous subjects, presents a revealing look at alien contact"

- Jim Marrs, author of Alien Agenda

We are not alone...and Nick Redfern can prove it.

Contactees contains the fascinating stories of the select group of people chosen by visitors to Earth to spread their message. Are aliens really among us? Don't be too quick to dismiss their claims.

Truman Bethurum was divorced by his wife because she believed he was having close encounters of a very personal kind with a beautiful extraterrestrial "space captain" named Aura Rhanes. Is he nuts? Prescient? An omen?

A band of eerily human-looking, blond-haired aliens--later known as the Space-Brothers--informed other contactees that they were concerned by our warlike ways and wished us to live in peace with one another. Acting on the advice of the Space-Brothers, contactees such as George Van Tassel and George Adamski went out and spread the extraterrestrial word to anyone and everyone who would listen. And many did, including U.S. government agencies.

More than half a century later, the contactees are still among us, still telling their tales of personal alien encounters, and still maintaining their cult-like status in the world of UFOlogy. Nick Redfern's Contactees relates their thought-provoking, lluminating, controversial, and sometimes bizarre stories in all their appropriately out-of-this-world glory.

The case I want to bring to your attention, from the book, is one involving the well known, and possibly very first, recorded classical alien abduction case in history: The case of Antonio Villas Boas.

Here is a quick wrap-up/refresher for those unfamiliar with the case:

At the time of his alleged abduction, Antonio Villas Boas was a 23-year-old Brazilian farmer who was working at night to avoid the hot temperatures of the day. On October 16, 1957, he was ploughing fields near São Francisco de Sales when he saw what he described as a "red star" in the night sky. According to his story, this "star" approached his position, growing in size until it became recognizable as a roughly circular or egg-shaped aerial craft, with a red light at its front and a rotating cupola on top. The craft began descending to land in the field, extending three "legs" as it did so. At that point, Boas decided to run from the scene.

According to Boas, he first attempted to leave the scene on his tractor, but when its lights and engine died after traveling only a short distance, he decided to continue on foot. However, he was seized by a 1.5 m (five-foot) tall humanoid, who was wearing grey coveralls and a helmet. Its eyes were small and blue, and instead of speech it made noises like barks or yelps. Three similar beings then joined the first in subduing Boas, and they dragged him inside their craft.

Once inside the craft, Boas said that he was stripped of his clothes and covered from head-to-toe with a strange gel. He was then led into a large semicircular room, through a doorway that had strange red symbols written over it. (Boas claimed that he was able to memorize these symbols and later reproduced them for investigators.) In this room the beings took samples of Boas' blood from his chin. After this he was then taken to a third room and left alone for around half an hour. During this time, some kind of gas was pumped into the room, which made Boas become violently ill.

Shortly after this, Boas claimed that he was joined in the room by another humanoid. This one, however, was female, very attractive, and naked. She was the same height as the other beings he had encountered, with a small, pointed chin and large, blue catlike eyes. The hair on her head was long and white (somewhat like platinum blonde) but her underarm and pubic hair were bright red. Boas said he was strongly attracted to the woman, and the two had sexual intercourse. During this act, Boas noted that the female did not kiss him but instead nipped him on the chin.

When it was all over, the female smiled at Boas, rubbing her belly and gestured upwards. Boas took this to mean that she was going to raise their child in space. The female seemed relieved that their "task" was over, and Boas himself said that he felt angered by the situation, because he felt as though he had been little more than "a good stallion" for the humanoids.

Boas said that he was then given back his clothing and taken on a tour of the ship by the humanoids. During this tour he said that he attempted to take a clock-like device as proof of his encounter, but was caught by the humanoids and prevented from doing so. He was then escorted off the ship and watched as it took off, glowing brightly. When Boas returned home, he discovered that four hours had passed.

Antonio Villas Boas later became a lawyer, married and had four children. He died in 1992, and stuck to the story of his alleged abduction for his entire life.

Now before you read the next part, you should familiarize yourself with the CIA's top secret project, MK-ULTRA. If you know what it is about, feel free to skip the next part.

Here is a Wikipedia definition of MK-ULTRA, as well as some other key points about the program:

Project MK-ULTRA, or MKULTRA, was the code name for a covert CIA interrogation research program, run by the Office of Scientific Intelligence. This official U.S. government program began in the early 1950s, continuing at least through the late 1960s, and it used United States and Canadian citizens as its test subjects. The published evidence indicates that Project MK-ULTRA involved the surreptitious use of many types of drugs, as well as other methods, to manipulate individual mental states and to alter brain function.


posted on Jan, 23 2010 @ 05:37 PM
So... MK-ULTRA was basically the CIA’s attempt at mind control and mind-alteration. Some of the experiments were just plain horrific, and we can only imagine how terrible others must have been that have never breached the public surface. One such experiment involved administering '___' to a group of volunteers for 77 days straight.

There were even a couple of official deaths linked to the program, one involving Harold Blauer, who died as a result of an experiment involving MDA.

The other death was a much more sinister one, and one that points to some kind of conspiracy:

Frank Olson, a United States Army biochemist and biological weapons researcher, was given '___' without his knowledge or consent in 1953 as part of a CIA experiment, and died under suspicious circumstances (initially labeled suicide) a week later following a severe psychotic episode. A CIA doctor assigned to monitor Olson's recovery claimed to be asleep in another bed in a New York City hotel room when Olson jumped through the window to fall thirteen stories to his death.

Olson's son disputes this version of events, and maintains that his father was murdered due to the belief that he was going to divulge his knowledge of the top-secret interrogation program code-named Project ARTICHOKE. Frank Olson's body was exhumed in 1994, and cranial injuries indicated Olson had been knocked unconscious before exiting the window.

Sounds like a murder to me... and I’m sure most of you would be able to put 2 and 2 together and realize the motives behind alleged CIA killings...

So the reason that this project is out in the public knowledge frame is that the New York Times reported in 1974 that the CIA had conducted numerous illegal domestic activities on citizens throughout the 60’s.

Congress heard the allegations, and put forth an investigation into the CIA and their program in 1975. To sum up the importance of what they found, read this excerpt:

The congressional committee investigating the CIA research, chaired by Senator Frank Church, concluded that "prior consent was obviously not obtained from any of the subjects". The committee noted that the "experiments sponsored by these researchers ... call into question the decision by the agencies not to fix guidelines for experiments."

So the report found that the CIA was running around performing illegal experiments, without consent, on American citizens.
Now if you think that this is bad, the just of it has never reached the public light:

Investigative efforts were hampered by the fact that CIA Director Richard Helms ordered all MK-ULTRA files destroyed in 1973; the Church Committee and Rockefeller Commission investigations relied on the sworn testimony of direct participants and on the relatively small number of documents that survived Helms' destruction order.

So the CIA director ordered all the files destroyed just a short while before the project’s existence was brought forth.
Coincidence maybe?

Even if you don’t think so... take into account all of the possible records that could have been destroyed; we really have no idea to what extent this program operated... and knowing what the CIA is capable of pulling off on an international scale (arming/training Al Qaeda in the 80’s; the world drug trade; countless other suspicions), I’m pretty sure accurate suspicions about the extent and scale of this program can be conceived.

Even though most of the documents were destroyed, many survived, and we have a somewhat accurate idea of the motives behind these experiments. I have put in bold the ones that you should be keeping in mind:

1. Substances which will promote illogical thinking and impulsiveness to the point where the recipient would be discredited in public.
2. Substances which increase the efficiency of mentation and perception.
3. Materials which will prevent or counteract the intoxicating effect of alcohol.
4. Materials which will promote the intoxicating effect of alcohol.
5. Materials which will produce the signs and symptoms of recognized diseases in a reversible way so that they may be used for malingering, etc.
6. Materials which will render the induction of hypnosis easier or otherwise enhance its usefulness.
7. Substances which will enhance the ability of individuals to withstand privation, torture and coercion during interrogation and so-called "brain-washing".
8. Materials and physical methods which will produce amnesia for events preceding and during their use.
9. Physical methods of producing shock and confusion over extended periods of time and capable of surreptitious use.
10. Substances which produce physical disablement such as paralysis of the legs, acute anemia, etc.
11. Substances which will produce "pure" euphoria with no subsequent let-down.
12. Substances which alter personality structure in such a way that the tendency of the recipient to become dependent upon another person is enhanced.
13. A material which will cause mental confusion of such a type that the individual under its influence will find it difficult to maintain a fabrication under questioning.
14. Substances which will lower the ambition and general working efficiency of men when administered in undetectable amounts.
15. Substances which promote weakness or distortion of the eyesight or hearing faculties, preferably without permanent effects.
16. A knockout pill which can surreptitiously be administered in drinks, food, cigarettes, as an aerosol, etc., which will be safe to use, provide a maximum of amnesia, and be suitable for use by agent types on an ad hoc basis.
17. A material which can be surreptitiously administered by the above routes and which in very small amounts will make it impossible for a man to perform any physical activity whatsoever.

Some of those symptoms sound pretty similar to alleged abduction symptoms: nausea, dizziness, altered-perception, memory loss, immobilization, ect.


[edit on 23/1/1010 by Monts]

posted on Jan, 23 2010 @ 05:41 PM
So how does this tie in to the Antonio Villas Boas case?

Rich Reynolds, a popular UFO investigator and researcher, had a number of exchanges with a Yugoslavian by the name of Bosco Nedelcovic; an employee of the Department of State’s Agency for International Development (AID) in South America, and later the Department of Defense.

Now it was over the telephone in 1978 that Nedelcovic revealed some “sketchy details” with his supposed participation in a number of “UFO-related missions” in South America in the late 1950’s.

Here is the story as it was presented in the book; hold on tight folks, you might just well be blown away.

According to Nedelcovic, on one particular occasion in October 1957, he was instructed by his “immediate supervisor” in the AID to report to Aeroporto Santos Dumont in Rio de Janeiro, where he boarded a military transport helicopter, along with two additional AID personnel. A doctor and a Brazilian naval officer were also along for the flight. The crew, meanwhile, was all American, and consisted of a pilot, co-pilot, and navigator.

[...] Nedelcovic continued that the team flew to a “Brazilian/American base [...] and undertook several reconnaissance flights over Pico da Bandeira, the third-highest mountain in Brazil. Reynolds was told: “Various apparatus was tested during the flights”.[...] (The three men from AID) had been briefed on the mission and their function was outlined as auxiliary in nature. The briefing indicated that the men were participating in new forms of psychological testing that would eventually be used in military contexts”.

Several days later, the team boarded the same helicopter and flew to a base at Espinhaco. This time, one more Navy man was present, as was a whole variety of “electronic gear” that included “an oversized radar scope” and an approximately 3-foot-by-5-foot “chrome like cubicle”. “Medical gear” was also on board, Nedelcovic advised Reynolds. The helicopter flew on to Uberaba, where it touched down, although no one disembarked. [...] The team then “flew the Rio Grande River area and scanned the terrain with the helicopter sweep lights.” They then flew back to Uberaba, where they spent the night- in the helicopter”.

Now it’s important to note that the original wikipedia excerpt of the Boas abduction case was not a complete one; In the full story, Antonio and his brother saw “sweeping lights” in the days leading up to the alleged abduction. For the full-blown account, check out this page:

Now back to Nedelcovic and his nightly excursions with the Americans...

The next evening, something dramatic occurred: After several hours of flying the same route as the night before, they “hovered over a person below who had been discovered by heat-sensing devices on board”. They descended to a height of approximately 200 feet and released a “chemical derivative” above the man that could result in amnesia, as well as distortion of the senses and motor functions. Shortly after doing so, the pilot landed the helicopter.

The victim, although “groggy”, was not immobile and “started to run.” It was not a difficult task for the three AID personnel to pursue him, catch up to him, and subdue him, however. Nedelcovic said the man was dragged back to the helicopter and taken aboard- but not before falling face-forward and hitting his lower jaw on the “helicopter ramp-rung”. Nedelcovic recalled that the man was on board the helicopter for around 2 hours- a time period throughout which the three AID employees waited outside, on the ground.

[...] Roughly at the 2 hour mark, “...the man was passed through the helicopter hatch, at about 3 a.m.; he was unconscious. The other two AID men took him to a tractor that was in the field and laid him next to it”. The helicopter was then flown back to Uberaba, after which they returned to the Espinhaco base, and then Nedelcovic resumed his regular work in Sao Paulo.

[...] According to Nedelcovic, the Villas Boas case was not an isolated event. Rather, he maintained to Reynolds, decades ago elements of the CIA and the military were deliberately engaging in the outright fabrication of alien-contact incidents- and were apparently having a lot of success when it came to pulling the wool over the eyes of easy-to-influence witnesses.

The book goes on to say that Nedelcovic claimed to have worked with the US military and NATO on various UFO-related subjects, and that he claims one of the reasons behind the CIA’s “fake-contactee/abduction” incidents was to see the public’s reaction to contactee/abduction cases, as well to spread a little bit of disinformation around at the same time.

So with that story now floating around in your heads, it is now appropriate to ask a few important questions, and take into account a few other incidents and alleged claims.

Is this proof that some early abduction’s, or all abductions, were/are the result of shadow government/black ops operations? Or is this proof that some people are doing everything they can to spread the most amount of disinformation possible, with a goal of de-crediting the hypothesis that people have had contact with Extra-terrestrial beings?

What was the whole reasoning behind these operations? Was it to start a bout of disinformation on all levels of the UFO phenomena? Or was it to see the public reaction in order to prepare them for real first-contact? Or was it to see the public’s reaction in order to set forth the agenda of the so called “gray-alien” abductions?

One has to rely completely on the testimony of Mr. Nedelcovic, however there are other people who claim that abductions are the result of government experiments.

Whether or not we take this story as evidence to support this “MK-ULTRA run abductions” theory, or dismiss the entire story as hogwash, it nonetheless adds even more dimensions and depth to the UFO/abduction phenomena, especially in the disinformation sector.

So, as always, we must take this story, along with all the other similar stories of un-provable phenomena, with a grain of salt.
Look over this story and feel free to comment/add your ideas and opinions.

I’ll leave you all with one of my most favourite quotes, by Native-Canadian writer Thomas King:

“There is no truth; only stories”

posted on Jan, 23 2010 @ 06:11 PM
Great thread Monts well done

It would not surprise me that some not all abductions are staged for other purposes. hallucinogenic drugs are administered to the victims to give off a different reality,or as some cases a real hallucinogenic reality.



posted on Jan, 23 2010 @ 06:16 PM
I wouldn’t be surprised either. MKULTRA, most likely has some of the best scientists working. They could probably make deliriant/hallucinogen mixtures, to confuse the abductees.

Great Thread, S&F

posted on Jan, 23 2010 @ 06:21 PM
Nice thread, enjoyed reading it. S&F.

posted on Jan, 23 2010 @ 06:33 PM
It's very possible they are the result of black ops.
I just wrote a thread about how this particular situation does not account for each and every instance.
In fact if this is happening in a deep black project then it would be a stroke of dark genius.
Imitate the unknown life forms abduction techniques in case the sheeple ever found out about extraterrestrials.
Then the CIA can say "sorry, that was us, yeah, we didn't know what we were getting into or " you get the picture
Then they will apologize before Congress and Congress will slap the CIA's wrist.
And TPTB can then say "see , no aliens, it was just us"

Well written thread.
Here's the one I mentioned.

It's almost the opposite of this thread, OP,almost the reversal of it, but they compliment in a way.

posted on Jan, 23 2010 @ 06:49 PM
Great post! I remember reading about Villa Boas in Ralph Blum's book Beyond Earth: Man's contact with Extraterrestrials and was very surprised to see it surface here as it is an obscure tale.
Funny, there was woman talking about this type of stuff on C2C the other night.

posted on Jan, 23 2010 @ 08:33 PM
Odd that you should mention Ralph Blum I knew Buzz his son.

If your interested you might want to do more research on the declassified documents on MKULTRA to find out why 33 subproject didn't have anything to do with chemical mind control. I located a few documents that proved Wright Patterson got some funding thru those subprojects.
If that doesn't make you wonder whose behind the flying disks or the abductions.

posted on Jan, 23 2010 @ 08:34 PM
Well you've presented a ton of info but I'm a big follower of Redfern for about the past 6 years. He's evolved so to speak from his earlier Strange Secrets which was excellent but still a bit innocent. haha. Anyway I highly recommend his for all his blogs and I post on his which he cowrites with Greg Bishop, author of Project Beta, another must-read on UFO government disinformation and mind control.

I haven't read Contactees but I have listened to almost all of Redfern's radio interviews on Contactees!! Still your post revealed information which is new to me despite all the interviews I listened to. Congratulations on making this CIA connection. Another great read on this CIA topic is The Stargate Conspiracy by Prince and Picknett.

My own expose might be useful as well. Thanks for your research Mont and may the force be with you.

I will add I had a close encounter with a big black triangle which I didn't dare take my eyes off. Redfern has tracked these triangles to 1947, in the U.K. at a U.S. airforce base. There was another mass sighting of this triangle -- equilateral, no fuselage! back in 1978 in my area. A lady had missing time and after hypnosis claimed she too had been abducted. Also there were cattle mutilations that so scared a rancher he moved. I was given all the local news clippings on this after I talked about my 1997 sighting. So there you go -- this stuff is real and I was told we live in a "military test flight corridor." Richard Dolan also told me he thinks the triangles are military and I'm of the position it is based on Tesla technology which the Nazis developed and then continued in the U.S. Redfern's book "Body Snatchers in the Desert" is a must read on Roswell in case you haven't read it.

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posted on Jan, 23 2010 @ 08:36 PM
fascinating -- any more details on these subprojects?

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posted on Jan, 23 2010 @ 09:57 PM
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Wow, what a detailed posting. I love this sort of research and exploration.

It saddens me all the disinformation and fear mongering about our 'space brothers'. From my reading and research, the space brothers (and sisters) have only love and concern for the people and life on earth. They help mop up the harmful toxins and nuclear radiation that pollutes the atmoshere. They inspire and provide teaching to those they contact in order to help this planet. We owe them a great debt, not our fearful scorn or condemnation.

It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if the CIA or other government groups were behind the abductions, cow mutilations, and general misinformation. They are the ones, along with the dogmatic religious organisations, that have the most to lose if the the real story about UFOs were to come out. Their power and control over the people of the world would come to an end.

There's a very interesting article posted in January 2010 Share International Magazine about the purpose and mission of the Space brothers on Earth. It supports the examples made by Nick Redfern about our contact with the Space brothers and details some more examples - especially in relationship to John F Kennedy's dealing with the Russians during the Berlin Blockade and Cuban Missile Crisis. Interesting stuff indeed.

posted on Jan, 24 2010 @ 01:16 AM
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Yes, it also saddens me greatly; all this disinformation and manipulation about a phenomena that seems to be very positive and beneficial in nature.

There is no doubt however, that the CIA and other government agencies were involved in the contactee phenomena. If it wasn't MKULTRA, it was spreading disinformation and keeping secrets about the whole phenomena. The main goal seemed to be, and probably still is, to keep people as confused as possible.

I remember one example from the book where were 2 ladies who supposedly picked up a transmission from Extra Terrestrials. The CIA got the only copy of the transmissions, however word got out about their existence.

A determined reporter did his best to get to the bottom of the tapes, only to find himself being shot back and forward in between the CIA and the Airforce; they were literally keeping him running around in circles, and eventually cornered themselves in such a giant quagmire of lies that they were simply forced to say that they lied to his face, and that the copy was destroyed.

posted on Jan, 24 2010 @ 01:33 AM
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Yes, your right that there is no way that this could account for every single abduction case on record; if it did, it would no doubt be the most amazing achievement in history.

The only thing that I can soundly say I know for sure, in the current-filled ocean of information and disinformation about the subject, is that there is definitely something going on that very powerful people don't want people to know about.

There would be no point in spreading disinformation and information that is logically confusing in it's nature if there was nothing to hide.

posted on Jan, 24 2010 @ 02:58 AM
Nice thread.

I would not be shocked to learn MKULTRA did "anything" to innocent people, and possibly still does behind secret doors.

They are all bastards and devils.

Star n Flag, even if it "may be false".

posted on Mar, 12 2010 @ 09:35 PM
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Here's Nick Redfern's latest interview on paratopia:

posted on Mar, 12 2010 @ 09:44 PM
but that dont explain why this happens in other countries ... so ... its hard

maybe its a psychological thing, but to say its CIA, its a little harsh

posted on Mar, 13 2010 @ 12:06 AM

Originally posted by Monts
I’ll leave you all with one of my most favourite quotes, by Native-Canadian writer Thomas King:

“There is no truth; only stories”

I don't know about that quote. I think this would be more accurate:

There is truth.
There are stories.
Sometimes the two overlap.
Sometimes they don't.

by: me

That said I think it's an interesting story. But I would have thought the CIA could have found plenty of victims in American airspace, without having to encounter possible complications involved in conducting operations in foreign fact this is a frequently cited reason why UFO cases like the Belgian UFO flap for example can't possibly be secret US craft because the idea that the US would be doing such things in foreign airspace is ludicrous at face value.

But I don't have enough information to rule it out, however I think until there's more to it than just a story, I have to regard it as just a story, but a fun and interesting story to read, good job! Starred!

posted on Mar, 13 2010 @ 02:43 AM
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Great OP and a reasonable suspicion supported by your sources. It's completely possible and likely IMO that the CIA and other groups exploited the UFO phenomena for their own ends. Logically, it's possible their actions were a response to abduction accounts and not the cause. Of course, it could be any other combination of factors.

It's conceivable that they attempted to recreate abduction events using psychotropics ('___' derivatives etc). If they could create identical incidents, it would indicate abduction claims as psychological...rather than reality. So maybe they were trying to falsify the evidence to test a theory? Concurrently, they were getting up to the same mischief that's now part of the public record.

Regarding Nedelcovic, we only have his word that he was the same Nedelcovic that was employed by the US State Department (he's referenced by Major General Edward Geary Lansdale in 1965). We only have his word that he engaged in the activities he claims. This isn't to undermine your suggestion that the Boas case was an outcome of US psy-ops shenanigans. Rather, I'm illustrating that it only adds another layer to the mystery.

As you remark in another post...there's a lot of sustained effort that seeks to ensure the UFO subject remains a baffling mess. It's all claim and counter-claim. I think of the UFO subject as a vast whirlpool...we dip our toes in and get sucked in. We spin wildly in circles...trying to avoid the rocks. Reaching the centre, we're sucked down and spat out on the outskirts again...barely any wiser. Rinse and repeat.

SnF for a well-written OP

posted on Mar, 13 2010 @ 03:05 AM
The MK-ULTRA mind control victims were experimented on in any number of ways. One of the more unique aspects of the program was that when the USA discovered that the Aliens had violated the Treaty initiated by Truman and were kidnapping Americans for experimentation purposes, there were those in the government that used the violation to begin their own abduction and experimentation programs on any number of mind control and DNA, human cloning, bio weapons design and a host of Top Secret projects that could benefit from clandestine experimentation being done on unsuspecting Americans.

As such, the MK-ULTRA program was further compartmentalized into areas some knew nothing about. The mind control abductions used an Alien imprint because then it would allow the government to discredit anyone and claim that there no Alien abductions because to do so protects the internal secret experimentation program that the USA is running without approval or authority. Any and all new breakthroughs are commercialized and moved into corporate circles to allow some to get rich off of false and deceptive programs that the public knows little about.

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