The NWO - Brilliant or Dumb...which one already?

Heya ATSers,

OK, I have been poking around here long enough to see one sweeping issue that appears to effect every part of this website...Do these shadow government NWO types have intellect and stealth, or are they bumbling idiots that barely know what the internet is...

Lets break down some inconsistancies that some people believe:

Politics
The NWO is in charge of every financial and governmental institution
a. Although they are the puppetmasters for almost every country, they are unable to come up with a way to control gold supplys.
b. They elect every politician...there is no such thing as a non-owned president, congressman, prime minister, etc...they are ALL sellouts with different suits (kang and kodos). HOWEVER, no matter who is elected, if the other guy would have gotten in, it would have been better because he was the one that wasnt sold out.

Question: If you wanted to set up a one world government for complete control, how would you do it...assuming you had the power to call the shots in the shadows already and every leader on earth took their marching orders from you.

Terrorism
9/11
a. They were able to make a few buildings fall by use of (enter your conspiracy here)...pulling the wool over the eyes of entire nations for the sole purpose of (enter your conspiracy here).

b. Haarp - their earthquake/hurricane/everything machine can move techtonic plates, destroy entire continents if they chose, or cause a single raincloud to come over your home...fully controlled..

c. They fly airplanes spraying the people with chemtrails to (enter conspiracy here). doing it daily to saturate the people below with tons of (enter conspiracy element here)

yet

they are unable to figure out how to cull the population down to 500 million. They try everything from giving secret poison vaccines for H1N1 (I am sure anyday now all those whom took it will fall down dead...aaaanyday now.....hmm). They appear not to know how to kill off tons of people...

question: If this was your job...you had to cull the population down to half a billion, and had access to these technologies they have...what would you do.

Technology
The NWO microchips and listens into everyone and everything personally...ya, that means you!
a. Although they clearly are making use of cybernetic brains to process the billions upon billions of people they listen in on, they cant seem to figure out how to use facebook or twitter effectively...yet they need this because even though they are putting advanced chips in your bloodstream, they also need to know if you play farmville

b. They have the technology to travel to outerspace, and have a network of secret satellites that shoot down any ET that enters the solar system that we dont want in our neighborhood...this is highly advanced tech, but it can be overcome by either the aliens turning on their cloaking device, or if a person on earth meditates and calls on them.

c. The NWO has installed sedation and brainwashing chips somehow in all digital televisions..hense why they demanded everyone stop using analog...along with that, the alien messages can only be recieved in analog..they never could figure out how to block that.

d. The NRA is the one company that is standing up against the NWO...they have been untouched by the corruption...therefore we still get guns and bullets...because even with all the advanced space weapons, armor, and whatnots, some guy with a shotgun is still a major threat to these shadow dwellers and their armys of space marines.


So...we have the dilemma here...the NWO is filled with absolute geniuses whom are lightyears ahead of us in thinking, yet they cannot break out of their mold (a disinfo agent will always have 2-3 different ways of dismissing things, never thinking outside of the box by propping up people clearly insane...they simply cant think that way...they only can be the skeptics as an example). They have earth ending devices but they dont know how to use them properly (even though they built the things) and therefore cannot destroy the required amount of people through earthquakes, volcanos, tornados, etc...

I do believe in conspiracys...thats actually the norm...however, I think there are just a bunch of micro-conspiracys..there is nothing that leads me to believe there is one giant organization that controls all things...if anything, the evidence proves otherwise, or it proves its run by idiot geniuses..

ok, discuss and make me see the light as to how this paradox is possible.

and first person to call me a disinfo agent gets either free pancakes, or a kick to the gonads...whichever one is easier.

I am frankly suprised that to date, not a single person responded to this. The examples were all pulled from ATS conspiracys that seem fairly integrated into what is considered the NWO agenda...oh well, guess the NWO has been disproven.

Earth takeover by shadow government cancelled due to bad weather.

All you anti-NWO kids, let's face it: Big Daddy owns you. No revolutionary socialist (not even Obama) will bring this system down, unless it decides to cave in on its own. If it does, you won't see a new paradise order come to life, only a long period of corruption, war, moral confusion, instability, and economic crisis. We've got problems to deal with now, but we also live in a great civilization that's resisted a lot of tough challenges throughout history. And to be honest with you, although I'm not sure we manage our empire correctly at all times, I'd rather let intelligent business men rule my world than a crowd of no-good-for-most-things peasants, wearing Che Guevara shirts, who need to be told what to do.

It is nowhere as simple as you make out in your OP.

Your thinking like you, and forgetting that you are probably the only person who does think like you, like I think like me, and everyone thinks like they do, as an individual, all with differing ideas, even if they are working on the same thing, in the same office, with the same tools, and the same diagrams and blueprints, they will never think alike.

It's when you take many people with Genius kind minds, that you begin to get the Genius thinking.

To depopulate the Earth down to 500 million people, may sound like it's achievable with the right tools, but there are so many things which need to be accounted for, before anyone could even begin to try and tackle it, especially when at the end of it, you need to live as you do now ( NWO ) and with such a plan to live much better than you or they do.

They would need to take into account disposal of remains to stop disease, they would have to do it in a discriminating manor so as to not destroy completely the processes which make their lives continue to be comfortable and with little disruption a possible for those involved, which could be many many people all around the World, who all have a different vested interest in different processes and manufacturing which make their lives, and those of friends, Family, people who work their system what ever it may be which gives them their life.

Don't forget, they need life to continue,they do not want to be left with a population which is determined to destroy them and kill them because they know what they are responsible for, they need to be left with a population which will trust them and follow their leadership without doubt, an ounce of doubt will grow and spread, and they need loyalty, to have 500 million people in on something like this would be impossible, so it would have to appear completely natural.

Again IMO, the removal of guns from people would not serve their purpose, they need chaos, and people fighting and shooting each other in any civil unrest, would serve their purpose well I would imagine, what they need is exactly what is happening now, they need people to distrust each other, they need people to think others around them cant be trusted, they need people to see plots around every corner, and they also need people to believe that there is some kind of unimaginable danger out there that will hurt them as soon as they drop their guard, they need to get some of their plans out in the open, so when the questions begin to be asked, they can point and laugh at the small bunch of people with the crazy ideas and conspiracy theories, this gives them an amount of plausible deny ability (and pointing fingers at the unreliable nut cases) in case the questions begin to be asked more and more by people who wouldn't usually ask those questions.

That creates a way of life, where those who have questions, don't say a word, because they fear being labeled the same as those who have already asked similar questions and laughed at, they need to make sure, that news from around the World is filtered and delivered in a different way to different people, and in different countries, and told in a way to achieve what ever opinion they need people to have, there are many ways to tell a story, and you can make peoples reactions serve your purpose by the way you present and tell the story, there are not just two sides to a story, there are as many as anyone wishes there to be, you just need the right ears to listen to it, add a seeming injustice, you get outrage, add a dog stuck in a well, you get tears and sympathy, add a human who dropped the dog down the well, you get people wanting to hurt or kill someone, but add a human throwing a dog down a well after he caught it mauling his little girl in his backyard while foaming at the mouth, you get sympathy, anger, all kinds of emotions ripping through people, it's the way the story is told, and it does effect everyone without exception to some degree.

So I wouldn't say the NWO are idiots or anything close, I would call them calculating, devious, and manipulating, their goal if it is true, is a goal they are in no hurry to achieve, IMO they don't even have a dedicated time line, I believe they do have a depopulation plan somewhere on their agenda, but so do I, it's the way we want to go about it which differs, I believe it can be achieved in a natural way, where as they may want to see results on a massive scale, and in some ways they want what almost every person on the Planet wants, an end to War, an end to starvation, a World that isn't raped for what it holds inside, a World that is sustainable.

There is certainly a group of some kind, maybe several, who are trying to control what they can, some involved are there for the power, some for the benefit of the Earth saving their own asses along the way, and some who really do believe they are doing it for the benefit of mankind and the Earth.

I also believe that at sometime over the past 18 months, something changed, something shifted, and it hurt them hard, maybe someone died, or someone changed sides for whatever reason, but something shifted, it's like you could see the change even though it isn't obvious, like someone having a stroke and their personality alters, something a lot of people have said recently, raising hopes in some, and an eyebrow in others, I suppose the only real thing or sane thing to do is just wait and see.

I really dont get why would we need a NWO like a global government

they dont really need to do it, since the global warming, they can control everyone if they create a organization to control all carbon emissions ... that would be enough and I think thats the way they are approaching

Originally posted by concernedcitizan
All you anti-NWO kids, let's face it: Big Daddy owns you. No revolutionary socialist (not even Obama) will bring this system down, unless it decides to cave in on its own. If it does, you won't see a new paradise order come to life, only a long period of corruption, war, moral confusion, instability, and economic crisis. We've got problems to deal with now, but we also live in a great civilization that's resisted a lot of tough challenges throughout history. And to be honest with you, although I'm not sure we manage our empire correctly at all times, I'd rather let intelligent business men rule my world than a crowd of no-good-for-most-things peasants, wearing Che Guevara shirts, who need to be told what to do.

Great! You are the perfect NWO CITIZEN! You realize that you and your buddies are too stupid to run the show, so just shut up and let us tell you what to do because we are your betters. Get back to work. By the way, you get a pay cut and we get raises, forever, until you just barely have enough to eat. Because you don't know how to run the show. But we do. Get back to work.

reply to post by CaptChaos


Conspiracy theories move our focus away from how a system operates, to who's operating it. Herein lies the problem. When speaking of a whole society, nothing is ever solved by attacking people, rather than attacking ideas. The result of conspiracy thinking is therefore witch hunting; Neo-Nazis hunt down Jews, Leftists hunt down capitalists, Conservatives hunt down homosexuals and Christians hunt down Satanists. Among all this mess, the problems are still there, since no one's paid attention to them, rather than to figure out who were behind them.

Some people will stop here and say, "Look, Freemasons, Zionists and rich capitalists actually exist. Have you heard of the Bilderberg group? Illuminati?" Of course, we all have, but the question is: Does It Matter?

There will always be people who dislike the current society and form groups inside of it, to try to counter it with "new ideas." These people are disillusioned, because you cannot reform a society by hiding inside of it or rebelling against it as an external force. You need to be an active part of it and change it from within, not as some secular sect, but as a public figure that has got a new, better way of running things.