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reply posted on 24-1-2010 @ 01:53 AM by Lillydale
Originally posted by On the Edge
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post by Totalstranger



People can listen for themselves and decide what they want to take from it.

You're awful quick to distract from it and try to label it disingenuous.

That in itself should make people more inclined to make up their own minds.



Have you listened? Did you make up your mind? What did you decide? Would it help if you knew more about Art Bell and his history of disingenuous guests?


reply posted on 24-1-2010 @ 03:27 AM by sniknej
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lillywhite, I guess i am speaking of the "true" satanist's, not some watered down version. lol.


reply posted on 24-1-2010 @ 03:32 AM by Lillydale
Originally posted by sniknej
reply to
post by Lillydale



lillywhite, I guess i am speaking of the "true" satanist's, not some watered down version. lol.


Oh ok. Enlighten me. What is a "true" satanist and who gets to decide? I think you are just looking for a Christian child murderer and not anything resembling the truth. Thanks for insisting on getting my name wrong. Insulting me just really goes to show the level of respect you deserve.


reply posted on 24-1-2010 @ 04:50 AM by rapunzel222
Originally posted by Lillydale
Originally posted by sniknej
The let me google that for you made me laugh!! That is really cool. Yes, these children that go missing never to be found again rings bells to satanic ritual sacrifice. Once all the other obvious reasons are taken into account. It is said that around the sacrificial ceremony dates (whatever those may be) that if you look in the papers for missing/purchased animals that are white in color increases. Also, the highest sacrifice to be given is your own virgin daughter at like 15-17 years of age. And, the satanist's in our communities are usually among the wealthy and well known. Judges, doctors, etc.. I have heard that they take a mobile crematorium to the sacrifice location to get rid of evidence.

[edit on 1/23/2010 by sniknej]



LOL!!!! This is funny stuff. Did you learn it all from a Christian by any chance? Which Satanism are you talking about? I belong to the church and animal sacrifice is a BIG NO NO. Which Satanism are you speaking of because I would love to learn more about it.



wakey wakeys...

'animal sacrifice is a big no no'. Well in the bible god asks abraham to kill his own son as a sacrifice to test his faith and only stops at the last minute. religion of judiasm required animal sacrifice to god. jesus was a jew. christianity retains the 'trappings' of an 'altar' and 'human sacrifice' - i.e. eating the body and blood of christ symbolically. jesus's death was a 'sacrifice'.

aztec and mesoamerican religions were replete wiht children and child sacrifice as offerings to the 'gods'. and blood offerings from animal or human sacrifice are central to most early religions. (greek, hittite, phonecian etc) now not being very pc it isnt done out in the open anymore.

satanism sounds just like the early mesoamerican and even phonecian type religions where they DID offer up human and child sacrifices to the 'gods'.

so of course its probably happening.

it is basically the old religion that underlies all modern religions that have now done away with the sacrifice component of the relgion.

im afraid.


reply posted on 24-1-2010 @ 06:35 AM by jonnyc55
I've read all the new posts up to now and have learnt alot. The idea of humans being used as a physical box to hold our spirits, sounds scarley like reality, when you think about how horrible other people can be, the; depression , jealousy and really all the craziness in the world which has happened before like nazi Germany and to this day, Haiti earthquake.

Children and babies die all over the world, Why should a child have to be brought into this world then taken out quickly? Life surely is crap and unfair but when you look at the idea of human reincarnations it then doesn't matter who dies, because to these Malevolent spirits they can torment them in their next life. Malevolent spirits are known to be attracted to negative energy emotions such as depression, guilt, hatred and anger. People will go though life feeling at least one of these emotions.

If you watched that video it mentions how vibration frequencies seperate our reality to another, Malevolent spirits are not aware of us until we feel those negative energies. This is when they can see and feed of us.

The thought of our life's exsisting in a loop of being used as sheep is bloody awfull. However i read some guys post talking of meditation to help realise your exisistance so you can free yourself from reincarnation. Maybe chrisianity is just a form of meditation (hymns or bible reading) and it too can release us from reincarnation.

Before i get replies to this post please remember my post was just a theory for why our existance has to be an awfull one at times. We all will die and so will our families so lets ask questions and think up theories for what happens next.

"Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is not to stop questioning."- Albert Einstein

Life is complex for the complex - jonnyc55

[edit on 24-1-2010 by jonnyc55]


reply posted on 24-1-2010 @ 07:38 AM by Matthew Dark
Originally posted by On the Edge
reply to
post by Matthew Dark



Since you are such an "expert" on the matter,how about some links to Satanism that will let others read for themselves what it actually is?

You know how Christians are always going back to the Bible.

What does Satanism offer that is their equivalent? Surely there must be something?


Sure, you can get it right from the proverbial horse's mouth.
www.churchofsatan.com

And, just so you know, I don't consider myself an 'expert', I just happen to...oh...I don't know...take the time to read and research before condemning something I don't understand or am too lazy to go look up myself.

[edit on 1/24/10 by Matthew Dark]


reply posted on 24-1-2010 @ 07:49 AM by Drunkenshrew
I am still on the fence, if ritual abuses are practiced on a large scale. David Icke points to the presence of other-dimensional entities. But there is also a more mundane aspect to ritual abuses. A recurring accusation from victims and researchers is, that massive trauma is used to induce multiple personality disorder in victims. This is a form of mind control. Crimes like paedophilia, murder or torture are often committed as part of rituals. Victims create alter egos to flee this terror. Later these alter egos are used by the perpetrators for personal gain. Victims are used for pornography, drug trafficking, assassinations and other purposes.

Closed or isolated societies like occult sects and cults are ideal for abhorrent mind control experiments. The outrageous nature of trauma induced mind control is something, which perpetrators cannot justify to the public. The very occult nature of cults, can provide the necessary secrecy. In the past intelligence operatives have used cults for mind control experimentations. Here is part V from the great video
series evidence of revision. This part is about Jim Jones and the Jonestown massacre.

Evidence of revision V



Google Video Link


Unlike many closed obscure cults, the Church of Satan operates more in the open. But like one cannot equate catholicism with christianity as a whole, one cannot equate the Church of Satan with satanism as a whole.

LaVey may have developed an agnostic code of ethics, when he founded his Church of Satan, but probably not every member of his church is a strict follower of his code of ethics, nor is every practicing satanist a member of this church. Like catholic priests have committed vile crimes in the name of a religion which preaches love, crimes have been committed in the name of Satan. Most rituals may be harmless, but hundreds of cases of satanic ritual abuse have been reported. The majority of psychiatrists who have treated victims, believe that satanic ritual abuse (SRA) is a real phenomenon.

An Empirical Look at the Ritual Abuse Controversy Randy Noblitt, PhD

From the data of their first study, these investigators concluded that 31% of the combined sample of psychologists, psychiatrists and social workers had seen at least one case of ritual or religion-related abuse. There were 387 child ritual abuse cases, 674 adult ritual abuse survivor cases, 171 child religion-related cases, and 234 adult survivor of religion-related cases reported. The authors concluded that the adult ritual abuse cases “were consistently the most extreme” (p. 4). Of the adult ritual abuse cases 33% reported cannibalism and 28% baby breeding for purposes of ritual sacrifice. Among the adult ritual abuse cases, they found that the victims were likely to be diagnosed with MPD. They also found that child cases were “far more likely to be disclosed to authorities or professionals, to family members or neighbors and to be linked to corroborative evidence, but were less likely to be disclosed in therapy than adult cases” (p. 4). The authors concluded that the psychologists, psychiatrists, and social workers who responded to their survey “overwhelmingly believed both the allegations of abuse and the allegations of ritual or religious elements of the abuse” (p. 6).

ritualabuse.us...

Some people lie, some people suffer from delusions. But the believe, that therapists have created an ritual abuse industry and all victims are either imposters or delusional, overlooks the fact, that people have been indited for cannibalism, murder and paedophilia in connection with satanic rituals. Not every accusation is just a witch hunt.

Court cases, which document that criminal acts have been committed as part of satanic rituals.
www.whale.to...

News articles about elite pedophile rings:
aftermathnews.wordpress.com...

It doesn't help, that the False Memory Syndrome Foundation (FMSF), which has done much “debunking” is headed my many people who are either accused of paedophilia or have worked as intelligence operatives in mind control programs. Would you believe Mafiosi, who investigate organized crime?

Compromised members of FMSF:
www.isgp.eu...

Perhaps it is not the FBI as an organisation, but the former Senior Special Agent-in-Charge of the Los Angeles division, Ted Gunderson is convinced that satanic ritual abuse is widespread and is usually covered by the the CIA and other organizations.

Satanism and the CIA: International Trafficking in Children



Google Video Link

video.google.com...#
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