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Interesting,Glenn Beck is saying both the German Nazi and Soviet Communist Parties are Leftist Parti

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posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 05:35 PM
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Hates progressives? #, man was for universal healthcare and the bailout when on CNN


His entire ideology is demonizing progressives. Listen to his radio show...watch his tv show.

That's all he does. he doesn't scream that people are hurting and need help...he just screams that there is a GD CHAIRMAN MAO on the white house christmas tree.

[SNIP] And to think that I posted his videos...as I thought he was right on things...yet he is DEAD SILENT on the complete destruction of our democracy.

[SNIP] So many people are hurting right now and all he cares about is the wealthy keeping it's money.

I don't care about ideology anymore. I don't care about either party. I care about US. I care about those struggling as I am.

Screw Glen Beck. SCREW HIM.

 


Removed censor circumventions

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posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 05:48 PM
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The right-wing portions of the fascism was a strong sense of nationalism and a strong millitary.

All in all, Glenn Beck was correct in the leftist comment though, if you follow the progression that led to the Fascism in every Fascist run country since the early 1900's. They ALL started with Socialism.

If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck and sounds like a duck... it is probably a duck.



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by BigDaveJr
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Wasn't Henry Ford a huge finantial supporter of the Nazi Party in the 20s-30s? I've also read things about the Bush family had a lot of money invested in I.G Farben(who made th Zyklon B gas used in Auschwitz)/


Yes he was, and so was Prescott Bush. I.G. Farben was as well, so was IBM, who categorized everyone in the camps to decide where they go and how they died. Codes 001 and 002 meant Auschwitz and Buchenwald, Prisoner Code 8 was Jew, Prisoner Code 11 was gypsy, Status Code 5 was execution by order, Status Code 6 was death by gas chamber.

Siemens (who tried to patent Zyklon B gas ovens), as well as many top bankers who are linked to the IMF and World Bank. Same for Hugo Boss who made the SS uniforms. Hell, Bayer sponsored Mengele.

Funny thing is, EVERY one of them says they knew nothing about what was going on, yet documents and memos showed they knew and wanted to see how much profit it could rake in, this goes double for Siemens and IBM.



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 06:04 PM
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Originally posted by YourPopRock
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The right-wing portions of the fascism was a strong sense of nationalism and a strong millitary.

All in all, Glenn Beck was correct in the leftist comment though, if you follow the progression that led to the Fascism in every Fascist run country since the early 1900's. They ALL started with Socialism.

If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck and sounds like a duck... it is probably a duck.


Did you even read about the strong corporate ties and things Hitler did for conservatism I mentioned? Israel has an actual socialist stand on healthcare, but I know some here will use that and say Israel is fascist and evil.



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 06:07 PM
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The German corporations gave huge finantial support to the Nazi Party going back to 1930. I think the Corporations thought that the Nazis would end the Trade Unions which would help them a lot,along with huge money to be made on rebuilding of the German Army.

[edit on 22-1-2010 by BigDaveJr]



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 06:13 PM
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Originally posted by BigDaveJr
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The German corporations gave huge finantial support to the Nazi Party going back to 1930. I think the Corporations thought that the Nazis would end the Trade Unions which would help them a lot,along with huge money to be made on rebuilding of the German Army.

[edit on 22-1-2010 by BigDaveJr]


Hitler had been ranting to eliminate the Jews, communists, socialists, and gays since the 20's, and that was one thing that attracted his supporters. CEOs saw this as a way to make good money, and Hitler appealed to them on this. Part of it was for the German Army, but these people knew about what was going on, and stayed on until 1945. Then they act surprised?

Even the Business Plot of 1933 had a plan to establish a Nazi government with ties to Hitler. They too wanted to kill off those 'Non-Aryans'.



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 06:19 PM
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It was weird seeing a World at War episode(On Our Way,the USA 1939-1942)where Vanivar(spell?) Bush was saying Japan was small potatoes,The USA had to consentrate on defeating Germany. It was weird hearing Him say that when the Bush family was making so much money investing in Germany. Wouldn't it have been better in His case(and the Bush Familie's)finantially if Germany would have won the war?

[edit on 22-1-2010 by BigDaveJr]



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 06:19 PM
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I think you are missing the point they are progressives every single god hating freedom taking one of them. Hitler was a progressive and progressives are from the left side of the isle I hate to tell you. No matter how many times you guys try and re-write it the truth will be heard. I wonder if Obama is a progressive?



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 06:20 PM
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I think Obama goes past Progressive,straight to Communist.



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 06:31 PM
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I think Obama goes past Progressive,straight to Communist.


Yeah....the past year has been full of Communism!

I dislike Obama......but please.

A progressive is what a Democrat is supposed to be. Helping people through government...yes...there are those who have nefarious purposes...just as capitalists do.

That doesn't mean a "progressive" is an evil person.



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 06:31 PM
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Originally posted by BigDaveJr
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I think Obama goes past Progressive,straight to Communist.


He is pushing right on into Fascist!

Obama is trying to infiltrate freedom of speech on the internet.

Obama is assigning a group of 10 Governers to help impose federal rule on the states.

Obama has created more Czars than Russia even had!

Communist was the OLD Obama... Fascist is the NEW one!




posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 06:34 PM
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Communist was the OLD Obama... Fascist is the NEW one!


Corporate Fascism is now legal as of yesterday thanks to the Supreme Court. Why don't you call up and thank your new Chinese corporate leaders who will now be writing our laws. ANd no...Obama IS NOT on the supreme court.



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by Someone336

Of course, in about half an hour this thread will be crawling with buffoons that think that Nazism and fascism are left-wing ideologies.
[edit on 22-1-2010 by Someone336]


Or vise versa on the buffoons.
Hitler owned the means of production and everything and every person in Germany.

That's leftwing no matter how you wish to slice it dice it or sugar coat it.


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posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 06:44 PM
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Thanks Glenn Beck!

5 million viewers just got a great history lesson!

Oh David....Progressives don't want to help people, they want to control them. BIG difference.



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 06:51 PM
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Oh David....Progressives don't want to help people, they want to control them. BIG difference.


I listen to Glen Beck everyday. You do nothing but repeat his words.

GO ahead and ignore his complete silence on the complete compromise of our democracy. Against the corrupt? RIGHT.

He's proved himself alright. Why don't you turn of Fox News for 5 minutes and start questioning your own thinking.

All Glen Beck is doing is trying to teach people to accept being poor.

He can go ahead on his endless banter while 1 in 5 americans have no jobs! No health insurance!

But let the corporations continue to send our jobs overseas and compromise our democracy and sovereignty.

i'm barely hanging on right now. How well are you doing? Everything fine and dandy at your house?

I know....you love Wall street and the bankers which suddenly GLen Beck NOW SUPPORTS!!!! Even though he criticized them to no end in the beginning.

Think for yourself. Question what you are told.

Heed Becks' own words...

QUESTION WITH BOLDNESS.



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 06:57 PM
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Originally posted by BigDaveJr
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I think Obama goes past Progressive,straight to Communist.


With a cabinet full of appointed Marxist. All you have to do is mention Marxst/ Bolshevik/ Communist and
the Nazi haters run for the hills.



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 07:15 PM
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If we're heading for Corporatism(or Corporate Fascism)who will be our Mussolini? I don't think there's anyone who could put on a performance during a speech like He could. I think We're heading toward our own version of 1922-1943 Italian Fascism also.



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by David9176


But let the corporations continue to send our jobs overseas and compromise our democracy and sovereignty.

QUESTION WITH BOLDNESS.


The lefties are and have run many corporations out of town or taxed them out of buisness, keep it up and see how many more people lose their jobs in america.



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 07:31 PM
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Who would know better than the Russians.
A Russian News agency that used to the propaganda machine for the same Marxists

from PRAVDA

America declines into Marxism

The American Self Immolation, Truly a Sight to See
10/19/2009 [article] / Opinion / Columnists

It can be safely said, that the last time a great nation destroyed itself through its own hubris and economic folly was the early Soviet Union (though in the end the late Soviet Union still died by the economic hand). Now we get the opportunity to watch the Americans do the exact same thing to themselves. The most amazing thing of course, is that they are just repeating the failed mistakes of the past
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Karl Marx Predicted Collapse of US Dollar in 1857
10/17/2009 [article] / World / Americas


The great October fall of the US dollar is turning into an avalanche. Within six months (April through September) the dollar lost over 10 percent at the world foreign exchange trading, which marked the sharpest decline since 1991. The tendency of the US dollar devaluation has been observed for a few years, but the current rate of decline is unprecedented. Some jokesters even rushed to re-read the letters of Karl Marx to Friedrich Engels written during the US financial panic of 1857 discussing the collapse of America. It would have been funny if it wasn't so serious
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Barack Obama becomes USA's Mikhail Gorbachev
06/08/2009 [article] / World / Americas


Will the US administration be able to recognize the rights of the Palestinian Authority to create an independent state? Will the US administration ever realize that the Muslim world is not a pack of cards which the USA can play to win the geopolitical leadership? Barack Obama did not say anything when Israeli troops were destroying residential quarters in the Gaza Strip during the Cast Lead operation in Palestine. Obama was as silent as a sphinx
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America's decline into Marxism began long before Obama-nation
06/05/2009 [article] / Opinion / Readers feedback



Leftists like to cite Lenin. To quote Marx is to delve into the theory of Socialism/Communism. But Lenin is another cup of tea. You get into Lenin and you’re in revolution. When you read Lenin’s The State and Revolution, which contains the core of Leninist thought, you are no longer in the world of socio-economic theory. This powerful text offers insights into Leninist policies and elaborated Lenin’s interpretation of Marxism, above all the class conflict, the crushing of the bourgeois state and the establishment and role of the dictatorship of the proletariat
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PS get back here you Nazi basher!

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posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 10:56 PM
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Glenn Beck is a professional entertainer, not an educator nor a politician. Whether or not Beck is an idiot makes no difference whatsoever to us. Now, if he was an idiot elected to influence legislation in the Senate — as was Al Franken — THAT would be a cause for concern.


Oh. I could have sworn, though, that Glenn Beck was on the Fox News Channel, which is owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation. I would also say that it matters whether or not Glenn Beck is an idiot - he has over three million viewers would most likely watch his show for education first and entertainment second (and maybe watching him cry a close third). A great number of these people will come away believing every half-truth and blatant falsehood that falls out of his mouth.


And yet you cannot compare the "far-right political stance" of the Nazis to any "right-wing" stance in America today. There is no American right-wing stance that even remotely resembles the Nazi right-wing.


Interesting you would say this considering I didn't mention America once in my post. Has the United States copyrighted the terms "left" and "right"? It wouldn't surprise me. However, I'll counter your statement with the Klan, Stormfront, the Aryan Nations, Westboro Baptist Church and the American Fascist Party.


Don't even bother trying to represent the radical militia groups, hiding away in the hills of Idaho and Montana, as Nazis. Those guys are fearful of being gunned down by government agents, just as we all should be fearful.


I don't know why you would say that. As you can see above, I didn't lump them in, and I had no intention of doing so. Has disagreeing with ol' Glenny Boy given me some kind of Big Government lovin' stigma?


Rather, the extremism of the Nazis of the Third Reich resembles nothing so much as Left-Wing extremism in the USA today,


I could point to a dozen dictatorships and regimes around the globe that resemble Nazism far more than anything America could muster.


disposed to the most preposterous and far-flung propaganda (the "Big Lie"),


I'll agree with you there. But wouldn't the Right be guilty of this as well?


anti-Christian activism,


I'll take that anti-Christian activism and raise you The American Taliban


occultism, mythical beliefs,


Yeah? And what about a president who believes that God is working through him when he wages war in the Middle East, a politician who joins a presidential race because of a divine master plan, an arms manufacturing company that encodes Bible verses on weapons created to kill or the Reagan's with their crystal balls and astrologers?

The left is guilty of this, though. I wrote a little bit about the left's influence by counter culture turned New Age ideas and the impact on the anti-Global Warming movement on this thread: Hillary Clinton’s ET book discovered.


assassination, domestic terrorism


Again, is the right not also guilty of these things?


genocide — anyone who considers 40 million abortions of human life anything other than genocide, and deliberately supports abortion, is no better than a Nazi.


That sounds like an opinion more than a fact, and one that will derail this thread entirely.


If it looks like a Nazi, walks like a Nazi, talks like a Nazi and acts like a Nazi, there's a very good chance it's a Nazi. And, cousin, the Far-Left in America is lookin' and walkin' and talkin' and actin' more and more like Nazis every day.


From where I stand, the left and right look exactly the same with just the wording reworked a little bit. Neither are as bad as the Nazis, and while I detest the extremes of any political ideology, the current administration is still leaning to the right. We've had leftist presidents in this country before, but none so far left that they actually left what is the "Right".

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Obama has created more Czars than Russia even had!


Too bad it was the Bolsheviks that overthrew the czars!

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The lefties are and have run many corporations out of town or taxed them out of buisness, keep it up and see how many more people lose their jobs in america.


While yes, it was taxation that played a role in the exodus of jobs to other pastures, you can't downplay NAFTA, which actually originated under George H.W. Bush and reinforced during Clinton's years. The biggest factor, however, is the fact that corporations had to cut cost in order to "bomb the marketplace" through expansion - and the first cut would be American employees with their high wages and expensive factories. The creations of Free Trade Zones and Special Economic Zones, which are segments of [Third World] countries that stripped of trade barriers and regulation, and often accompanied with extensive tax breaks for the corporations who move their jobs there, is the root of two major problems that have accompanied the hallowed "Globalization": the flight of US jobs and the human rights abuses of the sweatshop system.

So yeah, you can chalk it up more so to corporate greed than taxation.


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