UFO Storm UK - Vid

I thought it was very intresting video (UFO hunter), never before heard UFO stories in UK and how the sightings have recently dramatically increased. Not sure if it's already posted so here it is!

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[Mod Edit - all caps in title]

[edit on 22/1/2010 by Sauron]

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Heres a link to UK sightings www.uk-ufo.co.uk...

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Sensationalized rubbish for the masses... I couldn't watch past the intro...

Garbage like this gets ratings. It's entertainment, not real science.

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There can't be any "real" science because they're are "unidentified". It's all speculating and hell ya it's entertaining.

Lets look at this realistically

1) The programme starts off on the UK situation then goes on about the US summer of the saucers. Ok have to keep the US audience happy - History channel is paid for by their subscriptions.

2) "Peaked in August" - so we are talking about June July and August - what we in the UK call the "Silly Season" - Parliament in recess - no real news so lets do some "human interest" stories.

3) "Dominated the Front pages" whilst im sure most US readers would recognise a front page of USA today - because of the banner / masthead - its significant that these mastheads are missing from the "front page " cuttings shown - why? because they are not from the front page - and given what header visible is The Sun - a paper famed for salacious celeb stories and topless women on Page Three - the masthead might be a bit of an issue for cedibility.

Oh and The Sun newspapers moto is "Never let the TRUTH get in the way of a good story"

There are some good US sources commenting on the UFO hunters Series if you look on the web (people who were used in the programmes - notably Area51 and Dulce) - so yep its a sensationalist programme for the masses who need recaps after the adverts so their goldfish memories can assimilate information.

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fair enough, but it's still a great way to open mass people on the subject matter. Most people have become so closed minded (specially in US) that these shows, such as Jesse Ventura shows help people to start thinking outside of their little box. Even though shows like these gotta pay the bills and follow History channel (even though History channel is not as biased as many other main stream channels), their intention is good.

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There can't be any "real" science because they're are "unidentified".

So because we don't know what something is, we can't investigate it and try to find out what it is?

Is that not what science, and scientific discovery is all about?

It's all speculating and hell ya it's entertaining.

I agree, most of what you will find there is speculation. Personally I'd rather watch Star Trek NG... at least it has some real entertainment value, and doesn't try to portray itself as being gospel truth.

Watched the first video,was really interesting and I for one can say at least one of them UFO's is real because I saw it last May,the triangle with lights in the corners,I was looking up to see if I could see a UFO and noticed these 3 stars,,well what I thought was stars,until they moved slowly altogether Im 110% convinced it was the UFO thats in the video.

Originally posted by Alienmindflare
Watched the first video,was really interesting and I for one can say at least one of them UFO's is real because I saw it last May,the triangle with lights in the corners,I was looking up to see if I could see a UFO and noticed these 3 stars,,well what I thought was stars,until they moved slowly altogether Im 110% convinced it was the UFO thats in the video.

Any three points will form a triangle. How do you know they were not stars?... or satellites, or planes at high altitude in formation?

Good video. I liked the analysis of the photos comparing the size of the blur of the object to the shutter speed, as well as the meteorological analysis of the "helicopter chasing the ufo" incident.
What's most interesting are the apparent "about face" tactics of the authorities who were intially cooperative. I also liked the one reporter's comment about not leaving a papter-trail-not that it isn't already obvious but if it's being used at his level....
all in all a good vid.
snf.

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As I said I was looking up,,as I always do,the stars was pretty clear that night,these 3 particular lights just stood out more,Ive never heard of a triangle made with stars move slowly in a group and even though Im not into satellites and how many are out in one time I dont think they travel in a triangle.
As for planes,,planes cant be stationery,so definatley not a plane.

Also there were no sound.

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Ive never heard of a triangle made with stars move slowly in a group

Technically stars are more or less fixed, and they don't move about, but of course the Earth is constantly rotating so stars will appear to move very slowly over time.

Having said that, it is possible to perceive apparent motion, even in stationary (or near stationary) objects.

and even though Im not into satellites and how many are out in one time I don't think they travel in a triangle.

Actually, they can, and do...
The NOSS satellites operate in clusters of 3



I've seen them myself on at least one occasion.

As for planes,,planes cant be stationery,so definatley not a plane.

Actually, planes can be stationary (when they are on the ground anyway!), but even in the air there are situations where planes can appear to not be moving. Just as it is possible to percieve something that is stationary as something that is moving, it's also possible to see something that's moving appear to be stationary.

Imagine standing between the tracks on a long straight section of railroad, and seeing a train in the distance coming towards you. It could be moving very fast, but it would also appear to be stationary - because of your perspective, there is no apparent motion. The same can also happen with virtually anything that moves, be it on land or in the sky, from meteors to aircraft.

Even satellites can sometimes appear to slow down and seemingly stop moving, not to mention doing all sorts of crazy maneuvers. Mostly these are due to eye/body movements, and the way your brain interprets what you see, but perspective can also play a part.

Although I don't think these two examples (recent ATS threads) listed below are the same effect as the effect which you perceived, I do think they illustrate how easy it is to get confused about what is actually going on even with relatively "common" phenomena...

Aircraft suspended in mid air (personal sighting)
This has to be 100% genuine???

Note how some people "swear blind" that the objects could not be planes, despite strong evidence to the contrary. People are still arguing over what it is in one case, and still can not accept that what they are seeing is an aircraft, even though that is obvious from the footage.

I'll dig up some more examples soon, and hope to post a new thread here sometime in the near future.

If you'd like to try and narrow the possibilities as to what you might have seen, some more info on your sighting would be helpful, like how long did the whole sighting last in total, and at what point/s did the objects appear to be motionless? Also, did the formation appear to change direction at all?

In cases like yours, it can be quite hard to tell the difference between satellites and high altitude aircraft (which I am assuming are the best possibilities if these objects were moving at any significant speed), which might not necessarily be audible, so any details might help.

Specifically:
Date/Time/Location (does not have to be very accurate - nearest big city will do)
Direction of travel of objects (if N = 12:00, E = 03:00, S = 06:00, and W = 09:00 )
Where/how did you loose sight of the objects?

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The UFO in distress is escorted back to base by the black helicopter.
We don't see these UFOs unless they are malfunctioning.
Then some craft comes to assist recovery.
Depending on the situation another craft might stabilize with
the lift technology of ground to ionosphere currents.

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Ok so with this information I found I think we can safely say it definatley wasnt a NOSS satelitte,the nearest ocean would be 2 hours drive away plus only to be 1 of the triple NOSS satelittes left,,what are the odds the one I saw was the one?

NOSS satellites locate and track ships at sea by detecting their radio transmissions

Three 2nd generation NOSS triplets were orbited between 1990 and 1996, one of which remains in formation.

It was middle of May 09,area Kettering East Midlands UK
and moved slowly towards the East.

If it was a plane I know it would have moved faster than what it was doing,also I didnt see any kind of flashing light,like planes have,or red light,didnt hear anything at all,after I saw it,I knew what it was and only looked at it for about 5mins then I walked away and went inside.

The 5minutes was from the time I was looking at it stationary to when it was moving.It was directly above me.

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Ok so with this information I found I think we can safely say it definatley wasnt a NOSS satelitte,the nearest ocean would be 2 hours drive away

That gave me a chuckle!

Distance from the ocean means nothing - Naval satellites don't necessarily have to be orbiting over sea... I'll come back to this point again in a minute...

plus only to be 1 of the triple NOSS satelittes left

Not quite... there are actually two remaining triplets:

Eight 1st generation NOSS triplets were orbited between 1976 and 1987, one of which remains in formation.

Three 2nd generation NOSS triplets were orbited between 1990 and 1996, one of which remains in formation.

Source: satobs.org

what are the odds the one I saw was the one?

Well, even if there was only one, the odds of seeing it are actually very good. Satellites, even in LEO (Low Earth Orbit) can be seen for hundreds of miles in every direction because of their altitude (160 - 2,000 km).

The ISS is a good example since it's also in LEO. If you go here, and enter your location (or any random location) you can get an idea of how often a particular satellite (in this case the ISS) is visible from a given location.

As you can see (if you check the predictions for a few months) the ISS can be visible twice a night over two separate passes on some nights... and that is only one satellite! With NOSS, there are two!

The NOSS satellites, as I said before, are not restricted to flying over ocean. Like any satellite, the orbit is more or less fixed, constant, and takes it over land and sea alike.

Look at this example for instance:

It was middle of May 09,area Kettering East Midlands UK
and moved slowly towards the East.

Thanks. What time roughly was it?

If it was a plane I know it would have moved faster than what it was doing

If it was a formation of aircraft at high altitude, it can take a good few minutes to cross the sky. Your description of the timing seems to be compatible with aircraft at altitude.

also I didnt see any kind of flashing light,like planes have,or red light,didnt hear anything at all,after I saw it,I knew what it was and only looked at it for about 5mins then I walked away and went inside.

Aircraft don't always have their anti-collision lights on. Sometimes all you can see is a single solid light. Anti-collision lights are only a requirement when planes are on the ground as far as I know.

The 5minutes was from the time I was looking at it stationary to when it was moving.It was directly above me.

So, when you first caught sight of it, it didn't appear to be moving initially?

This would make good sense, since it takes a moment for your brain to establish if there is any motion or not, once a suspected moving object has been identified. In that brief instant, it might seem as if there is no motion.

I don't think we can say for sure which it was, but chances are that you saw a formation of satellites or planes, and not something related to ETs or some "advanced-technology". There is no evidence for that, just as there is no evidence for it in most (if not all) UFO cases once you look very closely at them.

[edit on 24-1-2010 by C.H.U.D.]

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Just wanna say thanx for the imput and info you gave,,I guess theres a 1% chance it could be a satelitte

Its hard for me to think otherwise,,obviously because I saw it and cant prove it wasnt a satelitte.