French authorities try to crackdown on Internet Piracy

To France now, where the government is preparing to crack down on internet piracy. In an attempt to protect music artists from illegal downloads a new law has been introduced that could see perpetrators lose access to the internet. But the pirates are fighting back, saying it's an assault on human rights.

Gooooooooooooooooood luck. Pirates have always been and will always be far ahead of any government, established software, and laws.

We will win and they will lose.

they can always try to do that, but it wont work

the reality is that ITS OVER for all the big music and movies distributors ...

its over, the internet age is here, and the only way to avoid piracy is to shut down completely the internet

they could make a lot of money if they were smart, the problem is that they just dont have any ambition, they dont have the brains to use the internet as a new source of money

thats the problem ... you will always have a way to bypass these people

Originally posted by Faiol

the reality is that ITS OVER for all the big music and movies distributors ...

I hope your incorrect about that. it would suck to watch all the good movie companys fold up and we are forced to watch reruns of movies produced 20 years ago, or watch some live play/inde film run on a shoestring budget with horrible acting.

What needs to happen is to make it as complex as possible to attain pirate gear...you will never stop it, but you can make it soo difficult that the average joe cannot do it...having a few thousand people swapping files is nothing, its when you have millions doing it with great ease...thats a problem.

as far as these people able to make tons of money on the net by doing things differently...thats not true. people dont pirate to send a message to the big movie/music industries...they pirate because they want something for free...there is no honorable rebellion, its just easy theft...

a good test of this theory..my neighbor made this rather brilliant media editing software package..he put it on the net for absolutely nothing...free...he spent 2 years hand coding it and it works perfectly...

he only asked for a donation if you like it...whatever you feel is approprate, be it 100 bucks, or 25 cents...

he has had thousands upon thousands of downloads...and has yet to get a single penny in donations...plenty of "nicely done" messages, and thats that.

People on the net are rarely honorable...they are thieves, scavengers, and freeloaders.

Originally posted by KrazyJethro

We will win and they will lose.

I wonder if you also shoplift at stores with such zest. there is no difference.

Its not over by a long shot.

Wait till the cloud systems get here. Give it ten years when personal pcs are just terminals of acceptable paid for software, rather than the sprawling mass of machines they are now.

Sure technically I could take anything off the net, if its packaged and hosted properly. My ISP and big media would not be able to tell it was illicitly gained material. Tech heads will still be able to do that (to a certain degree) with the right equipment in 10-15 years time.

The masses ? No sorry. Your nets are going to get controlled and its gonna be more subtle than people on this site would have you believe.

To the guy above me, Freeware is Freeware, when it comes to the web people dont expect to pay for certain things, also when it comes to getting donations a simple thing like how you place your donation buttons on your pages can make a serious difference to the amount you get coming in. On the other side of the coin ive known people who produce webcomics. Who through advertising and donations easily generate several thousand dollars a month, with just under a thousand of that normally coming in as random donations from people through the month.

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There is nothing honorable about stealing another man's property. It is not honorable when big corporations rip off music artists. It is not honorable when some pimple faced punk rips off music artists. Stealing is always stealing. It does not matter who the thief is or who is being stolen from. If you like a song enough to listen to it.....pay for it. If you like a program enough to use it............pay for it. If you like artwork or movies enough to look at it...........pay for it.

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Your mates doing something wrong then

www.guardian.co.uk...

This bloke was clearing £11K a month. "The defendant made nearly £200,000 by exploiting other people's work without permission. The case shows that artists and music companies need better protection."

In spite of Radiohead letting fans pay whatever they like for a CD download of their latest release 'In Rainbows', the Oxford-based band has made quite a mint off the album. While fans only paid about half of what new CDs cost in stores, Radiohead has made nearly $10 million dollars (about £4.8 million) in less than a week.

They're threatening to do this here in the U.K too. lol

Its impossible to police. They cant even catch the people who dont buy T.V liscences and they're supposed to have a list of these.

Artist have already admitted defeat on this anyway. Thats why Radiohead said just pay what you want for there album.

They now look to make all there money from touring and release a C.D to support it rather than as a main revenue stream. This wont happen its just to hard.

Originally posted by SaturnFX
I wonder if you also shoplift at stores with such zest. there is no difference.

This is an outdated line of think that does not resonate with younger generations.

Things are changing, especially in media, and I'd suggest that the method of profit must, and is, changing. Regardless of piracy, the vast majority of people will still see movies in movie theaters, they will still pay to rent movies (netflix, on demand, streaming, etc), and they will still buy songs from itunes or other places.

These things have been made better and the industry itself has created it's own methods of protecting itself.

Things are changing, and simply punishing users isn't the answer to the problem. Suppliers need to change.