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posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 03:33 PM
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The worst of all, Corporate American is mostly owned or financed by foreign investors, remember when we had some debate about foreign ownership of America? now they will get to own our politicians too.

Freedom of speech for whom? no for regular Americans thats for sure.




posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 03:44 PM
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The worst of all, Corporate American is mostly owned or financed by foreign investors, remember when we had some debate about foreign ownership of America? now they will get to own our politicians too. Freedom of speech for whom? no for regular Americans thats for sure.


I know.


I don't know how we are going to fix this.

Corporate Fascism is here.

but to some...OH it's no big deal!!! Blah blah blah. Damn that socialism...THAT NEVER EVEN ARRIVED.

Cripes!!!

What a week....what a year....what a travesty.



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 03:45 PM
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Agreed... That's to all of your posts. This is bad. Really, really bad. Being from Canada I know it won't directly impact my government BUT not only does my government usually follow suit and make a similar ruling to an American law but the Canadian economy is pretty much directly linked to America And perhaps a trickle down effect makes the economy go into the can. Maybe I'm wrong... It is just my opinion.



And S&F OP!




[edit on 22-1-2010 by Solar.Absolution]



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 03:51 PM
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I am starting to think this whole thing is deflection.

The health care has been shot down by the American People.

So, what do they do, march this out.

I believe they are pulling out all the stops now.



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 04:05 PM
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Originally posted by AllexxisF1
Tell me, those who agree with this decision....

If money is considered speech than why have

any bribery laws on the books?



HA! I love this! Excellent point!! I'm going to post this everywhere I go





[edit on 22-1-2010 by AllexxisF1]



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 04:06 PM
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I am starting to think this whole thing is deflection.


This isn't deflection. Corporations have been wanting this for years. It's their wet dream. They already had FAR too much influence in our government...but now they can essentially own it.

They can now buy Presidents. They can decide who you can choose to even be President. They can destroy anyone who speaks against them.

This is a disaster.



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 04:06 PM
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Ron gets elected by farmers who don't agree with his policies lol .. I don't think anything, no amount of money, no smooth talker could change those farmers minds.... They like their Ron, and the only way they will elect him out is if he quits on his own accord.

But I agree .. to an extent.. this decision by the Supreme Court will (further) sell our government to big money. However... I believe it already has been sold to big money.. I blieve corporations and unions already under the table spend billions on our elected officials.. It is refreshing to see a congress critter trying to stop the bill though... however.. he will be very lonely.. this is a lot of money coming to his colleagues.. few will join him.



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 04:10 PM
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I guess it's time we fight back. Blow up your TV's and stop buying their products!



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 04:28 PM
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well I really see this as no big deal.The only change I see is the corporations do not have to do these things behind closed doors now.They have owned congress,the president,and the courts for years now.They have decided who gets elected for years.nothing new.This country will get change the day the people wakeup and start hanging congress people,the pres.and justices for treason.That day will never come.



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 04:35 PM
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Perhaps the ruling came about because under the first amendment, which is a cornerstone human right, a terrible consequence has been that corporations have been feloniously given all the same rights as individual human beings under law; as thus, protected by the first amendment, which is something that should change, posthaste.



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 04:38 PM
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Don't mind me. Just doing a little editing of an old document


    We the people Corporations of the United States, in order to form a more perfect non-union, establish purchase justice, insure domestic tranquility and illegal citizens , provide for the common defense bottom line, promote the general corporate welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity interests, do ordain and establish this Constitution Condition of Servitude for the People of the United States of America.



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 04:47 PM
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And to think that Corporate facism was was delivered by the SCOTUS; the same conservative judges that we looked to to preserve individual freedom. And coupled with this www.abovetopsecret.com...&addstar=1&on=7955470#pid7955470

The political system, or at least the illusion, as we once knew it, is dead.

Ironic.



[edit on 22-1-2010 by whaaa]



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 04:59 PM
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Yup, a consummate edit. Fitting for each and every clause, stolen away from you and me.
The Perfect Beast has been built.



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 05:08 PM
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The question from the bench to the government lawyer that cemented the decision was this. Are you telling me that this 400 page book is banned under this law. The govt. lawyer said yes. That answer was the death blow to this law.

You may not like the idea of corporations buying ads for various causes but just the thought of this law being able to ban books that some govt. lackey does not like is a very slippery slope indeed.

Also it was not just corporations that was affected by this law. It also affected non-profits with causes. An example would be The National Organization of Women running an ad for a pro choice candidate or against that persons opponent, these ads were also against the law.

Another point is being knocked about is the court going against an earlier decision. If the court was unable to change prior decisions this country would still have slavery. The court can change bad decisions.



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 05:10 PM
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The only amendment in the Bill of Rights that has not been trampled completely and regularly is the Third.

I have no confidence in the Supremes to do anything legal nor follow the intent of the Constitution in such manners.

The entire reason for the non-establishment of a national religion is to avoid the undue influence and control like the Vatican had over European Countries during the Middle Ages and the Age of Reason. The same could and should have been said about corporations and their influence on policy and voting records, but the old axiom of "not biting the hand that feeds you" seems to be our rule of "Law" today.

Much is the pity except for one very small detail...people are less fearful about standing up to faceless and soulless corporations. Just remember kids, any American organization that acts to strip you of your rights is a domestic enemy. And We the People do have the right to Representation and can remove elements that seek to deny that right by force if necessary.



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 05:11 PM
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Another point is being knocked about is the court going against an earlier decision. If the court was unable to change prior decisions this country would still have slavery. The court can change bad decisions.


And they can MAKE bad decisions. They just gave any international corporations....China, Russia,....ANY country free reigns to our democracy.

This was the worst ruling that could ever be brought against our Constitution and individual freedom.

Wealth rules. Middle class and the poor completely lost their voice in government.

It is GONE.



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 05:14 PM
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Originally posted by Doomsday 2029
Fight now or Kiss our Country Goodbye?


News Flash:

WE ALREADY LOST THE COUNTRY!!!!


I don't know when we lost it, but for me personally it was upon the discovery of 9/11... what really happened.

[edit on 22-1-2010 by Doomsday 2029]



Our country was lost on November 22, 1963. Each generation has its own wake-up moment, but while there is never a moment when "everything changed" - just hyperbole - enough changed that day that we lost our representative republic. We still have representatives, but most of them aren't ours, they're corporate lobbyists posing as congressmen.



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by Pointedstick


Also it was not just corporations that was affected by this law. It also affected non-profits with causes. An example would be The National Organization of Women running an ad for a pro choice candidate or against that persons opponent, these ads were also against the law.


Hmmm. With NPO's on the list I wonder how long it will be before other little groups with lots of money get in the act. Swiftboat-esqe groups telling their version of "the Truth", KKK and other hate groups. How about a so called "anchor baby" for President?

Or even better, CFR puts up a real evil SOB funded by more money than God that takes little unused snippets of Presidential power to form a dictatorship. A president could do it. The ability exists.



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 06:36 PM
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Thank you for posting this up, it's made my horrible hangover a hell of a lot worse. But the pain is worth the price of truth.



posted on Jan, 22 2010 @ 06:42 PM
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Good post!

Congress seems to be "with the people" - the Senate seems to be for Corporate America..............we need to do some Senate house cleaning in my opinon.






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