How do you who consider yourselves conservatives, teabaggers, or republicans feel now that your group and ideology are the ones that dealt the final death blow to freedom in this country? I'm just curious to see if the brainwashing will ever lift.

I heard the OP mention we need to think of things to do. There is nothing to do don't you get it? Russ Feingold is ready to propose legislation to curb this vote by the supreme court, but what do you think that will do when they do gain control? They will throw it out ASAP. There is nothing we can do how does nobody understand this? The only possible solution is to stop it before it starts and that means having a revolution NOW! I mean in the next couple of weeks. But that won't happen. Give up we lost. ATS will be closed down because it will be a threat to the corporate state. Anyone who dares challenge the corporate state will be smashed. Our government will be worse than that of China. We will be enslaved and there is absolutely nothing we can do. If I had the money I would leave America now and wait until it reached that country, it won't be to long before the whole world falls to this. We will be a corporate state with veto powers at the UN, the largest most advanced military in the world, and the leader of NATO. It is over, this is officially the New World Order.

Large corporations already own the media, but in the past there were strict rule in place governing how much money a corporation could use to campaign on behalf of a candidate, or how much air time one candidate could get compared to another. Not any more.

Chief Justice Roberts literally handed the Hen House over to the Foxes.

And the silence from the right is almost deafening.

Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
Large corporations already own the media, but in the past there were strict rule in place governing how much money a corporation could use to campaign on behalf of a candidate, or how much air time one candidate could get compared to another. Not any more.

Chief Justice Roberts literally handed the Hen House over to the Foxes.

And the silence from the right is almost deafening.

After hearing this news , I too am Ashamed of being a Republican Right Now . The Party has been Bought and Paid for ........


Long Live The Republic Inc . ! .................Sigh ..

[edit on 22-1-2010 by Zanti Misfit]

If Fox News and the right wing media's silence on this was not enough proof.

Yesterdays decision by the Conservatives on the court strikes at the very heart of our Republic.

and still they listen to Hannnity and Rush and think it's no big deal.


When will Conservatives in this country realize they are being used as Judas Goats to destroy this nation.

They stolen elections, started wars on lies, tortured people, spied on Americans, gave the bankers unfathomable amounts of money and now handed our elections to corporations.

Right Wing Media is full of evil people masquerading as Republicans to push their agenda, and people are believing it.

They insist people wake up when the sad reality they are the one's who are living in a dream world.

Hannity actually defending this decision should be the wake up call of the century to you folks.

They made you believe your fellow citizen (Liberals) were the enemy when all along it was them. Lying to you night after night, day after day.

How much more evidence do you need?

You folks don't get it. The law was unconstitutional, period. Now you may not like it, but to suggest that because the court over-turned it is because they are beholden to corporate interests is immature.

The most critical type of speach is political speach and to the extent that by virtue of funding political is deemed fundamental to having the right to that speach the law must have been over turned. At a corporate level, you have separate and unequal treatment under the law here. Why should a multi-national corporation like GE, who owns a media corporation (NBC) have a massive opportunity to influence the debate regarding political matters, but another company without such a vehicle not have that same right? Why do you think the folks from MSNBC are up in arms? Because this ruling will dictate that other corporations can now compete with them. Nobody watches them, anyway so I don't understand why they are so upset unless they see themselves going the way of Air America.

The corporate interests are no different than the other groups such as unions in terms of their influencing political debate under this ruling. It is a level playing field. You can also get off of your high horse about the "right wing corporate interests". I live in Washington. The largest corporations in this state, Microsoft, Amazon, CostCO, REI, Starbucks are all heavily invested in the liberal agenda, not the conservative. A few others would be 99% of Hollywood, Apple, Google and the majority of Silicon Valley. Corporate interests span the spectrum.

Now you may not like this kind of influence in political discourse. I personally don't. I am also not opposed to 100% public financing of political campaigns for all national offices. I am 100% against a field that has not been defined as level and the the fact that there are no limits to spending, despite the fact that one side may have more resources than the other does not make it uneven.

To the extent that they can not come up with a method to enable this kind of influence to be culled or limited, they must provide a measure, which certainly would be constitutional to mandate absolute disclosure of all contributions and mandate that the disclosure be made easily obtained via the web my the electorate.

Conservatives should be happy with this ruling. We are the group in the country that does not believe the constitution is a living document.

Originally posted by dolphinfan

Dolphinfan says

D - You folks don't get it. The law was unconstitutional, period. Now you may not like it, but to suggest that because the court over-turned it is because they are beholden to corporate interests is immature.

Z - No you don't get it. This is the culmination of the conservative movement, and all you are doing is rationalizing it.

D - The most critical type of speach is political speach and to the extent that by virtue of funding political is deemed fundamental to having the right to that speach the law must have been over turned. At a corporate level, you have separate and unequal treatment under the law here. Why should a multi-national corporation like GE, who owns a media corporation (NBC) have a massive opportunity to influence the debate regarding political matters, but another company without such a vehicle not have that same right? Why do you think the folks from MSNBC are up in arms? Because this ruling will dictate that other corporations can now compete with them. Nobody watches them, anyway so I don't understand why they are so upset unless they see themselves going the way of Air America.

Z - MSNBC commentators are up in arms because they are not ignoramuses. The 100 years of legislation wiped out is/was Constitutional. Your problem was who authored it.

D - The corporate interests are no different than the other groups such as unions in terms of their influencing political debate under this ruling. It is a level playing field. You can also get off of your high horse about the "right wing corporate interests". I live in Washington. The largest corporations in this state, Microsoft, Amazon, CostCO, REI, Starbucks are all heavily invested in the liberal agenda, not the conservative. A few others would be 99% of Hollywood, Apple, Google and the majority of Silicon Valley. Corporate interests span the spectrum.

Z - Now you're ranting. Where you live is completely irrelevant. I can see New Jersie from the roof of my house, that doesn't make me anything but a New Yorker. Corporate interest have been lobbying the Conservatives to do this for 30 years.


D - Now you may not like this kind of influence in political discourse. I personally don't. I am also not opposed to 100% public financing of political campaigns for all national offices. I am 100% against a field that has not been defined as level and the the fact that there are no limits to spending, despite the fact that one side may have more resources than the other does not make it uneven.

Z - No. I don't like what happened, or what people like you are saying it means, which is nothing but a blind apologists rationalization.

D - To the extent that they can not come up with a method to enable this kind of influence to be culled or limited, they must provide a measure, which certainly would be constitutional to mandate absolute disclosure of all contributions and mandate that the disclosure be made easily obtained via the web my the electorate.

Z - That's obvious, and it's what Alan Grayson did already yesterday, introduce a bill.

D - Conservatives should be happy with this ruling. We are the group in the country that does not believe the constitution is a living document.

Z - Exactly, you should pack up and leave, the Constitution was written as a living document, not a playground for radicals to do their dirty business in. Conservatives are happy, and confused.

Your ability to bullcrap the American populace just took a major blow.
We'll see where Americans weigh in on this.

No amount of irrelevant rationalizations is going to change the fact that this country just had a 1 decision ruling that gives Corporations Super Citizenship.

You are either limited in your ability to think, or you are just complicit in this crime.

Jump up and down all you want, it means nothing but that you are refusing to see the consequences of your ideology.

Ziggy Strange

[edit on 22-1-2010 by ziggystrange]

I will have to hold judgement on how this is going to be implemented.

At first I was absolutely against this, now I am wavering on the exact nature of what this is going to cause.

Of course I am against the corporations being allowed to hijack our electoral process. I am also against the hijacking of the electoral process by special interests such as unions and other components like Acorn.

It is getting way out of hand.

Who can we trust, NO ONE, comes to mind.

Just leave me and my labor ALONE! I think the 75% of my labor is WAY out of line and it just keeps getting worse with everyone of these hacks that come into power.

The Repubs take it for their agenda, the Dems take it for their agenda.

I have a great idea, JUST LEAVE ME THE FRELL ALONE.

Quit trying to rule the world, quit trying to help me, quit trying to force your foul items(goods from corps) down my throat and just-

Leave me the frell alone!

How about a new party called The Leave me the # alone Party!

Originally posted by Zanti Misfit

Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
Large corporations already own the media, but in the past there were strict rule in place governing how much money a corporation could use to campaign on behalf of a candidate, or how much air time one candidate could get compared to another. Not any more.

Chief Justice Roberts literally handed the Hen House over to the Foxes.

And the silence from the right is almost deafening.

After hearing this news , I too am Ashamed of being a Republican Right Now . The Party has been Bought and Paid for ........


Long Live The Republic Inc . ! .................Sigh ..

[edit on 22-1-2010 by Zanti Misfit]

You are not alone my friend, we all got the same poison yesterday.

But there are Republicans, and Conservative saying this is freedom.

Tell them they are lying.

I'm not going to stop harping on this one for a long time.

Thank you for being tough enough to know when you got screwed by your own.

We are together in this, no matter what party identification. Being American takes precedence.

Ziggy Strange

This isn't about right vs left principles.

What it is about is purely evil people masquerading themselves as Republicans to push an agenda.

That agenda was plain for all to see yesterday.

No American in their right mind would agree that a corporation should have the rights of a human being.

A corporation is nothing but a piece of paper that can be changed at will. Yet that piece of paper deserves super human voting rights by being able to pay for a candidates marketing without limit.

A CORPORATION IS NOT A PERSON AND MONEY IS NOT SPEECH.

Originally posted by Misoir
I heard the OP mention we need to think of things to do. There is nothing to do don't you get it? Russ Feingold is ready to propose legislation to curb this vote by the supreme court, but what do you think that will do when they do gain control? They will throw it out ASAP. There is nothing we can do how does nobody understand this? The only possible solution is to stop it before it starts and that means having a revolution NOW! I mean in the next couple of weeks. But that won't happen. Give up we lost. ATS will be closed down because it will be a threat to the corporate state. Anyone who dares challenge the corporate state will be smashed. Our government will be worse than that of China. We will be enslaved and there is absolutely nothing we can do. If I had the money I would leave America now and wait until it reached that country, it won't be to long before the whole world falls to this. We will be a corporate state with veto powers at the UN, the largest most advanced military in the world, and the leader of NATO. It is over, this is officially the New World Order.

I see 4 reactions from your camp.

1. Comply, resistance is futile. - YOU

2. It's not a problem it's a good thing - Dolphinfan

3. I have to withhold judgment on this,I want to be left alone - Endisnigh

4. I have been betrayed, I'm not buying any more conservative lies. - Cyberstray

I can live with 3 and 4, but 1 and 2 can burn in hell as cowards, traitors and apologists.


Ziggy Strange