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Supreme Court Removes Limits on Corporate, Labor Donations to Campaigns

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posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 06:55 PM
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Originally posted by mrbarber
Is this what they mean by "Money talks"?

Second Line


Yes.

Now its official... Corporations has earned the right to vote! That's its democracy!

The corporation earning each day more and more civil rights... and no obligations... Fantastic!

[edit on 21/1/10 by blackcube]




posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 07:08 PM
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reply to post by tooo many pills
 

I have seen " Idiocracy" and could't see any fun in it. It was too close for comfort ,and add "Blade runner";"Robocop" and "Brazil" to it.
The nightmare of corporatism dictating politics, ending up in new-style slavery, while wrecking the environment, has been predicted and warned for by many writers and thinkers. Corporate america is having paroxisms of delight as we speak.

Say Goodbye to "For thePeople, By the People"

Mark my words:"The nightmare has just begun"



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 07:15 PM
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Originally posted by ventian
All the mouth breathers that voted for Obama to stop the way Washington does business just got their wish. George Soros now runs/owns this country. He will pour unlimited money into campaigns and really buy off some politicians. Obama appointed Sotomeiyor to pass laws just like this. Free speech has nothing to do with this. If Bush had done this the left hypocrites in this country would have thrown a sh*tfit. I am glad the messiah did so our country won't fall into anarchy.


Kennedy Roberts Scalia Thomas Alito

READ IT Einstein.

The conservative justices were the ones that voted yes.
Read the article. This is what your great freaking conservative movement has brought you.

You screwed the entire country. There is no blaming this on liberal or leftists this falls directly on the lap of the conservative right.

Morons now have given the corporations license to buy the Presidency.

Congratulations conservatives, you just made the worst move in history.

Ziggy Strange



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 07:34 PM
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Let the Corp pay.
Instead of the head honchos.
Who got payed with big bonuses to make up for the payments.



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 07:37 PM
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The problem is that the proposed fix that got nixed was the wrong approach. In so many ways. Campaign finance CAN be fixed...but you have to follow the rules. You know, the constitution. That troublesome document.

My suggestions? One, change the legal status of corporations to better reflect what they are. Two, eliminate campaign funding. All of it.

How?

That would take a thread all it's own....but it can be done. And then, if every candidate has the same pool and has to run on their platform and policy, and not on who has all the cash, the people can make their choice of who they feel represents them the best.

(Yes, I do have a model for this, so I know it's doable.)

Of course, this spirit of this failed legislation could be implemented, too, simply by making a campaign finance law AMENDMENT. Again, following the rules.



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 07:42 PM
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Originally posted by downisreallyup

The founders of America always assumed that "the people" would be highly involved in politics. They assumed that you sir, your neighbors, your friends, would all run for office and get directly involved. Never was it intended for there to be just two political parties. Never was it intended that you could just sit back, earn money, and build your life in isolation from political life.


The founders were elitists themselves. They had no such assumptions that "the people" would ever have the where-with-all, finances, to get directly involved. (Which of the founding fathers took a bullet? That's a short list. Which of them wound up with plantations? Longer list.) Our only means of competing with the current elitist voices is to pool resources or contribute to a group voicing for us. Why are both parties up in arms over this decision? They just let anyone willing to put their money where their mouth is into the game. This is a chance to oust the "one party" system we have now.

[edit on 21-1-2010 by Hemisphere]



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 07:54 PM
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OK, I am going to attempt to deny some ignorance.. Yeah!!

With the Supreme Court ruling on Removing limits on Corporate and Labor donations to campaigns, I can see how some might be scared.

One must sit back a minute and breath and really understand something.

Corporations are made up of, and funded by people. The board of directors are people, and the people who own the Corporations..(investors) are people two. One might actually be surprised on how many Corporations people help own in their 401k plan.

Corporations do what people who own them want them to. That means the investors are the ones in charge. Investors are every day Americans that invested money in hopes for a brighter future. Even us little people with 401k's are major investors in many Corporations.

So to let Corporations give unlimited funds to campaigns, is the same as the American people giving money to campaigns. If the American people did not support the Corporations decisions on where to put the money, surly they would put their investments elsewhere.

This is a good thing I believe.
Less government control is better than more government control.
Don't you agree?



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 08:01 PM
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Originally posted by BiGGz
You know guys, gotta look at the bright side. Think of it this way,

1 corporation spends mucho money campaigning for 1 candidate, another corporation for another candidate, and pretty soon they'll start putting bounties on eachothers heads.

All I see is dead politicians.

/cheers

"The only good politician, is a dead politician." - George W. Blush

[edit on 21-1-2010 by BiGGz]


What bright side, do you understand what just happened, any Corporation can buy an election.

Where is the outrage against the Justices that voted yes on this?

Talk to me. How do you explain "Conservatives" doing this? How does that fit your idea of The Brave New World?

People started yelling "The ski is falling" as soon as Barack the N word took power.

Well NeoCons, Conservative, Republicans, Libertarians.

The Sky just fell, and you are all sitting here talking platitudes and deflecting blame.
It starts tomorrow.

Disgusting.

Why is nobody calling for Roberts to Step down?

Ziggy Strange



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 08:05 PM
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Originally posted by wiredamerican
OK, I am going to attempt to deny some ignorance.. Yeah!!

With the Supreme Court ruling on Removing limits on Corporate and Labor donations to campaigns, I can see how some might be scared.

One must sit back a minute and breath and really understand something.

Corporations are made up of, and funded by people. The board of directors are people, and the people who own the Corporations..(investors) are people two. One might actually be surprised on how many Corporations people help own in their 401k plan.

Corporations do what people who own them want them to. That means the investors are the ones in charge. Investors are every day Americans that invested money in hopes for a brighter future. Even us little people with 401k's are major investors in many Corporations.

So to let Corporations give unlimited funds to campaigns, is the same as the American people giving money to campaigns. If the American people did not support the Corporations decisions on where to put the money, surly they would put their investments elsewhere.

This is a good thing I believe.
Less government control is better than more government control.
Don't you agree?


No it's treason, and you are an apologist because the blame falls on you.
Unless you are a Democrat left wing Socialist.

Wake up.

Ziggy Strange



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 08:10 PM
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This nothing new. Elections have been bought and paid for since, well, since humans have been having elections. All this does is confirm what we've all known for a long time. Money talks and BS walks. Corporations have been so good to us. Isn't it time we gave something back?



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 08:16 PM
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Originally posted by concernedcitizan
reply to post by ziggystrange
 


This nothing new. Elections have been bought and paid for since, well, since humans have been having elections. All this does is confirm what we've all known for a long time. Money talks and BS walks. Corporations have been so good to us. Isn't it time we gave something back?


Unbelievable. It used to be illegal, now it's legal. Don't you understand what this means? 100 years laws and regulations just swiped away?

You are ok with this?

Ziggy Strange



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 08:19 PM
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online.wsj.com...


Freedom has had its best week in many years. On Tuesday, Massachusetts put a Senate check on a reckless Congress, and yesterday the Supreme Court issued a landmark decision supporting free political speech by overturning some of Congress's more intrusive limits on election spending.


Wall Street Journal... hmmm


[edit on 21/1/10 by blackcube]



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 08:34 PM
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I would hope such an absurd statement would speak for itself. Guess not. I will endeavor to preface feeble attempts at humor as such. Gotta laugh to keep from crying.



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 08:35 PM
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We now have institutionalized bribery. We lost our constitution a long time ago. Supreme court justices are bought and paid for and so are the elected representatives. They will say and do what they are paid to. Corporations are now super citizens. They were never meant to have the same rights as a person and were supposed to be governed by state laws. They can now change their country of origin to avoid taxes, take any ones property, and buy any politician. It shows how ignorant people have become to try and support this.



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 08:38 PM
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The flood gates are now open for corporate fascism.

It's a brave new world, welcome to the monkey house.



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 08:44 PM
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This was a good decision by the Supremes. McCain-Feingold was an awful piece of legislation that unreasonably restricted political speech and didn't limit the influence of special interests at all. Corporations still gave massive quantities of money to candidates, but just hid it in PACs and "bundling." Now it will be out in the open. We will know who is funding who. By the way, this decision applies to everyone, not just big companies. Unions, non-profits, and individual citizens are now free to contribute what they want, and say what they want, when they want.



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 08:45 PM
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Kennedy Roberts Scalia Thomas Alito

READ IT Einstein.

The conservative justices were the ones that voted yes.
Read the article. This is what your great freaking conservative movement has brought you.

You screwed the entire country. There is no blaming this on liberal or leftists this falls directly on the lap of the conservative right.

Morons now have given the corporations license to buy the Presidency.

Congratulations conservatives, you just made the worst move in history.

Ziggy Strange


Thanks, Ziggy. It's amazing how few people here seem to realize this is the culmination of Republican philosophy...or at the very least the Republican president's philosphy who they have voted for. It is a %100 conservative ruling. If President Obama gets the opportunity to appoint and new Supreme Court Justice the balance of power may be evened out and this travesty will be over-turned.

In the meantime I hope Democrats and sane conservatives, Republicans, Libertarians and independents will be working hard and trying to figure out a way to ameliorate the devastating effect this will have on our country.



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 08:55 PM
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OK. Conservatives are to blame. I'm perfectly happy with that. I think McCain-Feingold was a disaster that did absolutely nothing to stem corrupt practices in campaign financing while at the same time infringing on 1st amendment freedoms. Conservatives are all about individual freedom which this decision by the Supreme Court strengthens.



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 09:07 PM
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Originally posted by concernedcitizan
reply to post by ziggystrange
 


I would hope such an absurd statement would speak for itself. Guess not. I will endeavor to preface feeble attempts at humor as such. Gotta laugh to keep from crying.


This is not a joke, and you are making light of something that has just sent the US into a death spiral.

Typical of delusion, you suck you thumb, and look at shiny things.

You disgust me.

Ziggy Strange



posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 09:08 PM
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Conservatives are all about individual freedom which this decision by the Supreme Court strengthens.


It also increases international influence from trans=national corporations...which will compromise our country's sovereignty as an independent nation.

This ruling, despite it's protection of the first amendment, completely destroys any kind of democracy as someone with no money cannot compete with someone who is rich.

The rich look at government as bad because it takes from them and gives to others. Now they can use it to their own advantage...they have already actually.

Now CORPORATIONS will have COMPLETE CONTROL OF YOUR TAX DOLLARS.

International corporations. CHINESE corporations dressed up as American corporations. Russian corporations....etc etc.

People have no idea what was just unleashed...especially at a time when we have 17 percent unemployment and people are losing t heir homes.



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