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Supreme Court Rolls Back Campaign Spending Limits. Dear God.

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posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 12:21 PM
Who wants to lay odds the Democrats blame this ruling for their huge defeat in the next election?

posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 12:25 PM
They need to move the doomsday clock back up about 5 minutes. We just got closer to Corporate Fascism.

posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 12:37 PM
We must remember, as we lament this development:

This began long ago, when the construct known as the 'corporation' became vested with human rights.

The corporation is a 'person' in the eyes of the law, and as such, there is no real 'justice' in limiting a persons commitment to support a political ideal or cause.

The problem here is the tacit acceptance that a corporation should be considered a citizen.

We know that this development in the evolution of the corporate identity is a contrivance of convenience to the well-entrenched industrialists of the world.

What needs to change is the notion that a corporation has such rights as are specified in Article 14 (the double edged-sword). Sadly, it became the cornerstone of the corporate rise to power.

Any effort to correct this declaration of the Supreme Court must begin with the eradication of the notion that a corporate charter creates an immortal citizen of limited liability to the law.

Perhaps we will see this mistake pass away in time, but I suspect that the corporate-manned government policy-makers are less than likely to approach the issue in a manner free from bias.

A person is a citizen... not groups of people. Unfortunately too many institutions have dug into this paradigm of privilege like an Alabama tick - including religions, civic associations, and other groups who ostensibly exist to 'serve.'

my $.02

[edit on 21-1-2010 by Maxmars]

posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 12:38 PM
reply to post by ViperFoxBat

No, corporate unrestricted dictatorship, voters no longer will have a say so in how the elected officials are chosen.

But then again for years that is what I been saying all along, American doesn't have a vote anymore.

Wants more prof people?, the supreme court just crap that over our faces.

Things are just starting, this is what the indifferences, fights for political parties, idolatry and blind faith to political parties does to a nation.

United with stand divided we fall

[edit on 21-1-2010 by marg6043]

posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 12:39 PM
There goes what was left of our great country. Your president in 2012 brought to you by________ (insert corporate entity of your choice)

EDIT: I imagine our next president will be wearing something similar to this at the inauguration:

posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 12:42 PM
reply to post by Aggie Man

China have lots of USDA, they will be buying whores, I mean politicraps like sweets in a candy shop.

Who said foreign nations needs to do invasion and wars to take control over other nations in this time and day, welcome to the great sell out of the US government

Everything goes for the right price.

[edit on 21-1-2010 by marg6043]

posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 12:45 PM

Originally posted by anon72
reply to post by AllexxisF1

Nuts? About wanting TRUE freedom?. Every citizen has the right to put out infomation they wish to and they ALSO have the right not to listen to what they don't want to.

You are a picture pefect example of how this country has ended up where it is.

You believe a corporation has a right, a fundemental right of freedom of speech to run non stop political ad's for their candidate.

You believe a corporation deserves the same right as a human being...A HUMAN BEING.

So not only do the billionaires get their one vote, but now under this ridiculous ruling can now pour all the money he wants into advertising their bought out candidate.

They could run ad's 24/7 and even put Sarah Palin on a Wheaties box ...AND YOU THINK THAT IS OK.

What do you think is going to happen to guys like Ron Paul, Dennis Kuchinich and others? Or any third party candidate against the status quo.

Remember what Fox noise did to Ron Paul, just wait. Goldman Sachs can now run ad's every second of the day for a year calling him every name in the book and get away with it.

...And you believe this is freedom. You Sir and your warped sense of reality is what has destroyed this country.

posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 12:45 PM
reply to post by FortAnthem

That is exactly the outlook that will continue to keep us on the current path we're heading down. Left vs. Right, Lib. vs Con... :shk:

How people can even look at it this way anymore and not realize that the entire thing is a complete sham is beyond me. Keep waving that partisan flag, just remember to sew on the corporate logo du jour when it comes out.

posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 12:53 PM
reply to post by kosmicjack

3 threads on this going already. This one seems to have the most traction so I'll speak here.

Ya know, I lean right on some things and left on some things. Overall I probably lean right more than left and have been called a conservative more than once here on ATS - and I've been called a liberal a few times too on a few subjects.

However, there are few things that just transend labels of conservative or liberal and fall under much older labels and values that I think are ingrained in every decent person. The labels of "right" and "wrong", "good" and "evil".

This is just wrong and it is evil in my opinion.

Komicjack - thank you for posting some of Stevens opinion. He basically nailed it. I can add no more than he has said on why this wrong.

We haven't seen any election like the ones we are getting ready to see in the mid-terms and 2012.

Seperating the truth from lies is about to get much harder.

It is a sad day for America.

posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 01:04 PM

Originally posted by niteboy82
reply to post by FortAnthem

Keep waving that partisan flag, just remember to sew on the corporate logo du jour when it comes out.

As if the stench of fascism wasn't bad enough...

TPTB now get to smear it straight into our faces...

Like your new flag amerikka Inc.?

posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 01:07 PM
Hate Obama all you want, but i think he sums things up nicely:

In a written statement, President Obama said the high court had "given a green light to a new stampede of special interest money in our politics." He called it a "major victory" for Wall Street, health insurance companies and other interests which would diminish the influence of Americans who give small donations. Obama pledged to "work immediately" with Congress to develop a "forceful response."

"The public interest requires nothing less," Obama said.

and . . .

Dissenters included Justices John Paul Stevens, Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Stephen Breyer and Sonia Sotomayor.

Of course Congress will do nothing, except maybe widen their office doors to admit more lobbyists at a time.

posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 01:12 PM
at least now it can be done out in the open. Just think of how much money will be saved without having to launder all that cash before it goes into the pockets of congress. I think as long as we have a system this screwed up we might as well have a little transparency with the system

posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 01:17 PM
reply to post by Sorcha Faal

Actually is going to get worst, as corporations and foreign financiers will hide under the person hood status of privacy laws easier.

posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 01:19 PM
reply to post by AllexxisF1

Well, there goes any and all possibility of any third party.

Welcome to USSA, where you can vote for fascist/socialism candidate A or socialist/fascism candidate B.

Quit picking on the Supreme Court, Corporations are people too! /s

posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 01:21 PM
reply to post by endisnighe

Well now we know, what the big bailout was all about, to show the people in America who runs the nation.

This groups keep throwing the truth in our faces and not many still had a grasp on reality.

posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 01:33 PM

Originally posted by AllexxisF1
This is the only real worry I have had in the last two years and it actually happened. It actually happened thanks to all the Conservatives on the Supreme Court.

The Republic is now over, welcome to the United States of Corporations.

Compliments of Conservatives.

[edit on 21-1-2010 by AllexxisF1]

Well, lets think about the broader implications here.

The reason why conservatives are in favor of allowing unlimited corporate sponsorship is because democrats have an unfair advantage due to the way they fund their campaigns.

What really needs to happen is for the supreme court to recognize that corporations and unions are not people.

Only private citizens should be allowed to give campaign contributions or promote a candidate. I don't think should be any limit on how much a private citizen can give, but I don't think any corporation or union should be allowed to donate hard or soft money to a political party or candidate.

I also think only citizens should be allowed to lobby congress. I don't think lobbyists sponsored by corporations should be allowed to exist. At least not under our current unconstitutional government.

[edit on 21-1-2010 by mnemeth1]

posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 01:35 PM
I think this decision will work out okay - as long as corporations are restricted to only using tax payer money to fund these campaigns...


[edit on 21-1-2010 by TruthMagnet]

posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 02:00 PM
Probably the last vote I will ever cast for a republican. I damn sure won't vote for a democrat either. These idiots just insured that I am one less vote either one of them will have to worry about. Republicans are the last I want to see scream about the first amendment and still have the patriot act. This was about buying campaigns. Congrats to the democrats for standing on the sidelines during this moment while grinning and flipping us the finger. Screw the government. I knew they were bad but now I evenly hate both sides. My vote goes to any independent from now on.

posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 02:00 PM
Does this mean that foreign companies are free to spend as much money as they wish on elections?

posted on Jan, 21 2010 @ 02:16 PM

Originally posted by joyride0187
Does this mean that foreign companies are free to spend as much money as they wish on elections?

What this Conservative ruling means is simple.

A corporation is a person.

As a person it has the right to buy ad's on tv, newspapers, internet, etc as much as they want and as often as they like.

Which means if Exxon wants Sarah Palin they can literally buy non stop commercials, ads and even put her face on every bilboard in America night and day until she gets elected.

Hell they can literally buy CNN and make it the Sarah Palin 2012 channel.

But since some Conservatives have a hard time realizing what their own people did let me explain it to them in a way that may make sense.

Lets say Oil, Health Insurance companies, Military hardware companies, and just about any of the richest companies in the world are all run by the most Liberal\Communist\Facists\Terrorists who believe in death panels.

They find their new spokesperson (aka Presidential Candidate) Who just happens to be a Black, Muslim, Russian raised, North Korean schooled, guy who believes Christians should be put in jail.

These corporations buy every minute of all media (radio, tv, internet, phones, people on the street, etc.) making this new spokesperson of theirs as the true Messiah just left of Santa Claus.

Now do you see the problem.

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